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6 goals in 6.5 games
The habs got paid to take him...
Six games..... let's see where he's at in a couple months before coming in with the mission accomplished banner.
6 goals in 6.5 games
The habs got paid to take him...
In the two 2017-2019 regular seasons, Laine scored 26 goals assisted by Wheeler. So about a third of his goals, despite how they didn't play on the same line 5v5. So yeah, maybe the reason why Jets fans said that Laine fans who thought Wheeler ignored Laine were hallucinating was because the evidence directly contradicts their hallucinating nonsense.
My biggest gripe with PPs so far Laine's whole career has been teams not utilizinbg the simple pass from point to Laine... barely never saw that Winnipeg and it was pretty rare in CBJ as well. They've done that a ton in Montreal and Laine is scoring, he has a good enough shot, he doesn't need a practically empty goal, it's enough to create a little bit of movement for the goalie and let Laine handle the rest.
See statistics. Despite injuries, he had more or the same number of 5v5 goals as Reinhart in the 2021/22 and 2022/23 seasons. He played with Jenner and Roslovic as centers, with Peeke on defense in both seasons + Gudbranson and Bernie still on defense in 2022/23 (Werenski got injured after 13 games). Still, he had 1PPG and 0,945 PPG. How many would Matthews have had in those conditions?Finally Laine has found a team where they realize he's a mostly just a PP cannon, and that's completely fine. Use his strengths and enjoy the goals.
Are you saying this after seasons in Columbus? Who was this player? Jenner? Roslovic? Nyquist? Or Gaudreau, who made his stats worse while he made Johnny's better (JG has great chemistry with players like Tkachuk, played good with Marchenko too because he loved to pass to the net)? Maybe a great offensive defense led by Peeke because Werenski was often injured?He’s playing with the worst 2C in the league
& no that’s not just saying because it’s Laine both Dach and Slaf have been anchors this season
Laine isn’t an elite 5on5 player by no means but at 5on5 he’s being dragged down by his linemates and of course doesn’t help that he missed a full year of playing and the pre season
In 100 minutes of 5v5 play this season, Dach+Slafkovsky without Laine have an xGF% of almost 56%.He’s playing with the worst 2C in the league
& no that’s not just saying because it’s Laine both Dach and Slaf have been anchors this season
Laine isn’t an elite 5on5 player by no means but at 5on5 he’s being dragged down by his linemates and of course doesn’t help that he missed a full year of playing and the pre season
What if he scores 30 this year and 60 the next, do you still let him walk?Even if hes a PPG player for a year and half, scores 40 next season, and doesnt get injured, his history shows that he will get injured later on, and often. I dont wish it, Im just being real. The guy has played 136 games since the 21-22 season out of a possible 277. Hes missed more games than hes played.
Then in summer 2026 youre talking about a sought after UFA. ie. the absolute WORST time to sign a guy UNLESS youre contender for the Cup. We're talking $11M+ per by then as the cap increases. THe Habs have enough rich contracts at the moment with Suz, CC, Slaf, and soon to be Hutson and Demidov in 3 years. Assuming they get a good pick next summer, thats another (probable) big contract in 4 years time. Guhle and Suzuki will be approaching UFA status in 2030 and 31 respectively, 2 more HUGE contracts. If you sign an expensive UFA now, theyll have to give someone up to make it all fit, and chances are Laine will have the worst contract.
I 100% guarantee everyone and their mothers, the Habs wont be Cup contenders in 26-27 or 27-28. Hopefully on the upswing by then, but then youre banking on Laine being great at age 32 or 33 when are acutal hopeful Cup contenders come 2030 or later. He could be great at that age, but Its too high risk with him. Wait to sign your big name UFAs when the time comes. Not now, and not in 2 years either.
In 100 minutes of 5v5 play this season, Dach+Slafkovsky without Laine have an xGF% of almost 56%.
Hot take: the player that has managed to stay above 43% xGF% once in his past 6 seasons is the culprit, not the other two players on his line.
There were many hab fans on the boards poo poo the trade. You got blasted if you said it was a good idea
I've had the displeasure of watching Laine try to play 5v5 hockey. And that was back when the results were less bad than they have been since he left Winnipeg.Hot take, watch the games. So you can see who loses the puck and causes goals against. You get a better idea that way.
I've had the displeasure of watching Laine try to play 5v5 hockey. And that was back when the results were less bad than they have been since he left Winnipeg.
People blamed his linemates back then too. In fact, some of the same people. The more things change, the more they stay the same, eh?
Oh, I'm not offended. People have trusted their eyes about Laine over those pesky stats for almost a decade now.In other words, you've seen Laine play years ago and that gives you enough insight to determine that Laine has been the problem in his current line in Montreal.
Don't be offended if I choose to trust my own eyes over your rather inspired analysis.
I would not use us as an example. We have barely any home made players in the roster and the succes was built by trading. We literally had to lose one of our own top picks for us to compete.yeah I figured you were one of those who thought the Habs were soon to be contenders. Part of the impatient fanbase that think it only takes a few years of top picks to build a true Cup contender….. They didn’t get a Crosby and Malkin in back to back years unfortunately. Here’s a reality check, it usually takes a decade from when you started drafting high. See FLA, COL, TB, WSH, EDM and when they started, and how many high picks (homrun picks and busts) it took them before finally piecing together a winner.
Habs pretty much started this rebuild 2 seasons ago with Slafkovsky after Bergevin made his idiotic moves after the 2021 run… Kotkaniemi pick obviously doesn’t count, it’s a lost/bust pick. Caufield and Hutson are homerun picks, very fortunate, but they’re not your Makar and MacKinnon elite pieces. Hopefully Demidov is one. I’m not counting on Slafkovsky or Reinbacher to be another unfortunately. They need to land one of those elite pieces next summer, ideally a centre.
And btw, Laine is a UFA at 28, not this summer. He won’t go for a discount unless he gets injured again, and if he does youd have to be really dumb to re sign him. Let alone re signing a guy because we need to “please the fans”??? That’s how you screw up a rebuild and end out being exactly where they were for the past 30 years.
How Patrik influenced his teammates in the 2022/23 season. Sorted by time. Not to forget, he was returning from injury/illness 3 times (COVID).In 100 minutes of 5v5 play this season, Dach+Slafkovsky without Laine have an xGF% of almost 56%.
Hot take: the player that has managed to stay above 43% xGF% once in his past 6 seasons is the culprit, not the other two players on his line.
No. The Montreal pick. The implication of Laine possibly costing the Habs draft position should have been obvious.
Are u looking closely the UFA? Man they are always old or washed up and they become instantly overpaid. (There is some exeption) There is always reason why players become free agent. Would you like Marchessault, Stamkos? Thanks but no thanks! Laine has elite talent and not that old. You don't have that on UFA marketbut so why take that chance? Wouldnt you rather invest in another big name UFA who isnt often injured, and at the right time? Every year theres someone, sometimes two or three, in that UFA crop that are just as good but a lot healthier.
Suzuki hasnt been injured for 6 straight seasons. Quite the opposite, hes an ironman. Thats my whole argument. Weird comparison.I’m not a Montreal fan just saying them trading Laine would be idiotic
Whether you like it or not those players in the locker room look up to Laine and trading Laine would send the wrong message. Sorry guys we aren’t here trying to win.
Suzuki will be 26y next season and that move would mean Suzuki, Montreals 1C would be closer to 30 when they could start thinking about doing something. So might as well trade Suzuki this summer as well?
& your Dach point is exactly why they shouldn’t trade for Laine. Let’s trade more proven players for even more magic beans! Hurray
Dach is the worst 2C in the league and that’s the biggest problem Montreal needs to figure out moving forward in the forward group and now that doesn’t require extra tanking
Slaf- Suzuki- Caufield
Demidov- x- Laine and they’ll have a legit top6 for the next 5-7 years right there and zero players would be making superstar money allowing them to spend elsewhere
Also Laine- Demidov- Suzuki- Hutson has potential to be an elite pp group for Montreal for a very long time
Trading away Laine would be a massive FU to the fans and to the players. They’ve been star struck with them adding someone like Laine and then you turn around and trade him away when they should start winning games
Well if you want to be the next Buffalo go ahead and always try to run with more magic beans
Superstars make 12-14M today, in few years time 14-16M per year. In 2-3 years time how many better forwards are you going to be able to sign for less than Laine at 8.xM?
Your examples are UFAs on their 2ND UFA contract.Are u looking closely the UFA? Man they are always old or washed up and they become instantly overpaid. (There is some exeption) There is always reason why players become free agent. Would you like Marchessault, Stamkos? Thanks but no thanks! Laine has elite talent and not that old. You don't have that on UFA market