He's averaging just over 17 minutes, and has only hit over 17 minutes 3 times in his last 20 games.This applies to any player...
If they play for 20 minutes, at most they have control of the puck for 1 minute. The other 19 minutes is where good players find ways to contribute and lazy players hide.
It won't happen for many reasons but I would want Guhle. If the Rangers are moving off Lafreniere, it needs to help solve their defensive issues. They need LHD that is no worse than 2nd pair worthy probably similar age/similar change of scenery/etc. Asking for Guhle is obviously shooting the moon, but that's the player on the Habs, that makes the most sense if the Rangers are trying to solve one of their problems. Doesn't make sense to move him for another winger. They aren't going to get good value trading him for a center. They aren't going to want futures. So yeah; similar aged LHD that can partner Fox, or frees up K. Miller to partner Fox.Sure the Habs would make a offer, probably willing to overpay.
Laf would be loved by the fans in MTL.
What would the Rangers asked for him from the Habs ?
Guhle? For Laffy? Sure, and we throw in Suzuki as a sweetener. At best, you get Roy and maybe some change...but that won't happen either.It won't happen for many reasons but I would want Guhle. If the Rangers are moving off Lafreniere, it needs to help solve their defensive issues. They need LHD that is no worse than 2nd pair worthy probably similar age/similar change of scenery/etc. Asking for Guhle is obviously shooting the moon, but that's the player on the Habs, that makes the most sense if the Rangers are trying to solve one of their problems. Doesn't make sense to move him for another winger. They aren't going to get good value trading him for a center. They aren't going to want futures. So yeah; similar aged LHD that can partner Fox, or frees up K. Miller to partner Fox.
I agree with you. That’s one of the first things that I wrote. The Habs won’t, and shouldn’t make that deal. But the Rangers also should not trade Lafreniere if they aren’t getting a difference making/potential difference making LHD eitherGuhle? For Laffy? Sure, and we throw in Suzuki as a sweetener. At best, you get Roy and maybe some change...but that won't happen either.
There is this kid called Demidov that needs a center, Guhle would be available for equivilant center, everything else is fantasy. Period.
There is simply ZERO need for Laffy to the Habs. That he is even mentioned is the French factor that plays well with extremely limited segment of fans. Maybe 1%.
Let's see... gets paid like a 1st overall pick yet performs like a 7th rounder.Is he negative value on that contract?
you're correct it would never happenIt won't happen for many reasons but I would want Guhle. If the Rangers are moving off Lafreniere, it needs to help solve their defensive issues. They need LHD that is no worse than 2nd pair worthy probably similar age/similar change of scenery/etc. Asking for Guhle is obviously shooting the moon, but that's the player on the Habs, that makes the most sense if the Rangers are trying to solve one of their problems. Doesn't make sense to move him for another winger. They aren't going to get good value trading him for a center. They aren't going to want futures. So yeah; similar aged LHD that can partner Fox, or frees up K. Miller to partner Fox.
I can cherry pick stats too. He’s a team second worst -15 while playing with a solid center in Trocheck and a potential HOF player in Panarin.ES production is very good - only 36 players in the league with more 5-on-5 points than he has and only one (Panarin) is on his team.
Don’t see how It’s cherry picking when talking about 5 on 5 production.I can cherry pick stats too. He’s a team second worst -15 while playing with a solid center in Trocheck and a potential HOF player in Panarin.
More importantly, his play, especially on the defensive side doesn’t pass the eye test. He has some offensive skills, but is lazy in the defensive zone.
While he may get better, he’s been in the league long enough to confidently slot him in as a middle six winger and an overpaid one at that.
I do give him credit though. He had his best season in a contract year.
They add a 23 year old top 4 defenseman because Slaf is 2 years younger? Your valuation is way offSlaf for Lafreniere and Schneider? Lafreniere better fit in Montreal. Schneider included because Slaf 2 years younger
Would he be loved though? Habs are always the hardest on French players not living up to their potentialSure the Habs would make a offer, probably willing to overpay.
Laf would be loved by the fans in MTL.
What would the Rangers asked for him from the Habs ?
It’s easier to put up points when you don’t back check and play defense. Laf is a -15, team second worst, while Trocheck is a +2.Don’t see how It’s cherry picking when talking about 5 on 5 production.
The solid center you’re talking about has 34 5 on 5 points, 14 goals. Lafreniere has 40 5 on 5 points and 15 goals.
I'm pretty harsh on Lafreniere but I can admit when he's playing better, moving his feet and looking like a real good player. Last season he was doing exactly that. But this is a real disappointing follow-up season for him. This is the kind of season that makes you question what kind of season you'll get from him through-out the future years. He needs a big bounce back season. The entire team needs a bounce back season. He made me eat my words last season. He needs to make me eat my words again next season.Don’t see how It’s cherry picking when talking about 5 on 5 production.
The solid center you’re talking about has 34 5 on 5 points, 14 goals. Lafreniere has 40 5 on 5 points and 15 goals.