La liga part II

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Barca are not in a position to win the league...they have a legit chance but from where I'm sitting they're still 2nd.

Not crying just correcting a statement. The ref missed **** from both sides... one more than the other but that is to be expected.

Enjoy the choke job though.

You are in a much better position to win the league that you were at the beginning of the day. I wasn't clear, sorry.

Casemiro should have been sent off at least twice. He was lucky as hell.
 

Savi

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Barca are not in a position to win the league...they have a legit chance but from where I'm sitting they're still 2nd.

Actually they are in 1st now based on H2H results

But man, what a great game. Even if it would have finished 2-2 I'd say the same thing. The entire game it went up and down, both teams with a boatload of chances, some very hectic stuff at times. Great clasico.
 

Vasilevskiy

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I love Marcelo, he's a super player and I'd have him in Barcelona in a heartbeat but that elbow was crap, La Liga should have a look at it, you cannot be throwing flying elbows just like that.

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Duchene2MacKinnon

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Kid works his ass off. Took an elbow from Mandzukic in each leg against Juventus too and just got on with it. Prime example of why the club should have relied on La Masia instead of the Turans, Dignes, Gomes', Alcacers, etc.

We'll see. If they pull it out and can win the Copa it will be an incredible season.

Oh 100% they should but they won't unless a new president comes in. Let's hope Alena doesn't get shafted too.

It will be pretty incredible but Lucho's legacy will always be a let down. Like I envisioned.

You are in a much better position to win the league that you were at the beginning of the day. I wasn't clear, sorry.

Casemiro should have been sent off at least twice. He was lucky as hell.

It's not lucky but okay.

Actually they are in 1st now based on H2H results

But man, what a great game. Even if it would have finished 2-2 I'd say the same thing. The entire game it went up and down, both teams with a boatload of chances, some very hectic stuff at times. Great clasico.

Madrid have a game in hand.

Yup. Hope Unzue isn't as stubborn as Lucho if Barca goes that route.

Oh good God no. Please no. I want one of my sports teams to have a good coach. Haven't experienced that since 2014.:(
 

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Not only was Messi's winner his 500th for the club, but that goal also made him the all time leading scorer in el Clasico history as he surpassed di Stefano.
 

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I need details on why Messi celebrated the goal like that. First time I've seen him do that. Was he taunting Real fans or was he looking at the away Barça fans?
 

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Could be directed at the Madrid fans, given the goal in context emotions getting The better of him considering what it means for Barca and to him personally. Or directed at the Barca fans for the same positive reasons.

Either way it's unlike messi... Never has he taken off his shirt in celebration.
 

les Habs

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Probably the Madrid fans. One can only imagine what they said to him during the match.

Speaking of imagining what one might say, we don't have to with Ramos who apparently said the following:

“My clap? It was directed towards Pique. He got to the ref with all his tweets & impacted the match."

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Want to give Suarez some love for the tireless work throughout and for helping to setup Messi for both his goals.

Goal one, he steps over the pass and runs to the right drawing defenders with him, leaving a gaping space on the left for Messi to run into.

Goal two he blocks out one of the defenders to keep a shooting lane open for Messi to fire home.

That Marcelo elbow is hard to tell whether or not it was intentional. I thought it was dirty at first, but a few other folks with me watching the match didn't think so (no, they weren't Madrid fans ;)).
 

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Had tickets to the match and couldn't make it due to an interview tomorrow (today), my father got them from a businessman he knows. He went and didn't even sell the other ticket or give it to anyone. What a shame to have missed it, it was a cracker.
 

les Habs

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Helluva match and this after both sides had big CL matches midweek. There's a reason it's the Clasico though.

Both keepers with some huge saves in this one. A testament to their matches but also to the chances created.

Were I a Madridista I think I'd constantly be complaining about Bale and Kroos. I would just imagine what they could make selling the pair the players they could have brought in.

Well once again "choker" Messi delivers. Smashing goals the pair of them and yet he's scored both of them before. In fact the winner is a pretty typical Messi goal.

was a yellow....pansy league...barely touched him lol

Messi dived right into that tackle....I wish ref would give card for the intent...so player could stay on theyre feet instead of semi-diving

Marcelo elbow was nothing.

:biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

Has to be said Roberto's work leading up to the goal was fantastic.

Yeah, that was a great run. Just the drive to go forward like that.

Alba's ball to Messi made up for losing Rodriguez on Madrid's second.

Want to give Suarez some love for the tireless work throughout and for helping to setup Messi for both his goals.

Goal one, he steps over the pass and runs to the right drawing defenders with him, leaving a gaping space on the left for Messi to run into.

Goal two he blocks out one of the defenders to keep a shooting lane open for Messi to fire home.

That Marcelo elbow is hard to tell whether or not it was intentional. I thought it was dirty at first, but a few other folks with me watching the match didn't think so (no, they weren't Madrid fans ;)).

Good call on Suarez. I would add that he put in the defensive work too. His technique on that volley that Navas saved was excellent too.

In real time I didn't think it was intentional. Slow motion reply however gave me pause. He's looking to the linesman and for me that's a sign of him knowing what he was doing. I certainly wouldn't put it past him as Marcelo has shown himself a dirty player before. Had it been Suarez it would have been called intentional.
 

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Few highlights from me from last night:
- Rakitic was excellent, best Barca player after Messi and ter Stegen (Roberto was amazing on the goal as well)
- Iniesta's pass to Suarez and his volley and the nice Navas save was as good a pass as you'll ever see, simply amazing
- Ronaldo was awful lol... Like... I mean, at this point, if he doesn't put away chances, he doesn't offer much to their team
- Casemiro was beyond dumb, and ultimately, probably cost his team - Kovacic and Kroos are not nearly as adept defensively, both were way too far and reacted badly on Rakitic's goal - and Zidane had to take him off because it was a matter of time before he got a 2nd yellow
- linesmen were awful, for both teams - ref however, held up pretty good. Marcelo's elbow looked like an accident to me, and I'm sure to most people... Ramos' red was deserved and was the right call. The Ronaldo pen thing at the start... I've seen those given more often than not, but he did go down easy
- Ramos got sent off twice in the last 3 El Clasicos (last year in the 2-1 win at Nou Camp) - both times well deserved
- neither of these teams can't hold a candle to Juventus as far as tactics or tactical discipline goes
- Marcelo needs to stop Roberto and get a yellow (even a red) on that last play - it's something every Juve player does no questions asked (Khedira did when Alex Sandro lost the ball vs Barca, for example)
- I love Kovacic and his potential, but he was jogging back on the last Messi goal... Modric and Marcelo sprint back to cover people, Kovacic jogs back - and he only came on 20 mins earlier. Awful, irresponsible defending (similar to Masche vs Juve on the 2nd Dybala goal)
- ter Stegen is the best Barca keeper in recent memory

And finally, I never got to see Gretzky play at his peak, just the last few years. I got to watch only the last 3 Chicago years of Jordan's career (95-98).
It's a pleasure, and a privilege, to have watched Messi throughout his career.
What a player, what an athlete - I have no idea how people compare anyone else to him as far as football goes. Peak Cristiano was a goal machine, IMO #2 player all-time, but doesn't come close to Mesi.

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I think Zidane has some tough calls to make in the upcoming games.
At some point, he's got to give a chance to Morata over either Ronaldo or Benzema (Ronaldo has been shockingly bad at every but finishing - but now failed there as well).
And having an injured, out-of-shape Bale doesn't help.
I hope Bale's back to his full form next season, such an amazing player when he's on form.

Barca has the easier schedule, and no CL, I fully expect them to grab all 15 points from now on
Osasuna, Villareal and Eiber home, Espanyol, Las Palmas away.
Real has Valencia and Sevilla at home, and then Deportivo, Malaga, Celta and Granada away. Some tricky games there.

It's very likely that Real stupidly high press with 5 players, a man down, at 91.30 of the game, Roberto's run and Messi's finish turned the championship with that one move.
I just wonder if it was Zidane's call or the players just pressed of their own accord there.

Best game I watched in a while - at least the most exciting one.
 
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Ar-too

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The Classico got stale there for a bit. It's had a genuine revival the last couple years. Real's win last year after Ramos got sent off, and then Messi's winning goal this year. As someone who favors Barca in these games, I think this one was sweeter than the 5-0 from a few years ago. Two of the Messiest Messi goals you'll ever see. The touch with his right foot to make Carvajal look silly on his first. And the Suarez boxout on the second. Messi is amazing. He's lost a yard of pace in the last couple years, but he's made up for it with more intelligence and better free kick taking.

The one Madrid player I feel badly for is Navas. He had a great game and was hung out to dry on two of the three goals.
 
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