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SettlementRichie10

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People just say shit. It's not that they don't have LHD. They currently have 8 under contract. Actually more LHD then RHD under contract, and that's including Clarke. If you'd like to add Gaunce in there as an AHL guy, that's that many more LHD. It's weird that Bjornfot, after 33 NHL games to 1 AHL game in 20-21, and then 70 NHL games to 0 AHL games in 21-22, has been in Ontario most of this season, but it's not like he's not there to be used.

Mom, can we get LHD?

No, son, we have LHD at home.

LHD at home
 

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Part of the problem is the lack of progression from Bjornfot. They took a kid in the 1st round who made the team out of camp at 18 and was an NHL regular at 19 and now at 21 is an AHL/NHL tweener. In the big picture when they started constructing the team, they surely had Toby slotted into a more prominent role by now.

Not saying that absolves them from everything, because they should have targeted more LHD’s. But that’s a big reason for the dire situation.
The thing is, he has looked every bit of a solid 3rd pair guy all season long, certainly better than the corpse of Alex Edler.

His handling has been strange, and I’m wondering what it is that nobody else is seeing/hearing.
 

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I think the problem is that Walker got hurt for a full year and in his absence Durzi proved himself capable of skating NHL shifts and then they acquired Fiala.

It was a sequence of unforeseen events that conspired to paint them into a contractual corner. The organization has been more than forthcoming about the fact that some decisions have been made based on contracts, contract status, waiver eligibility and more not just "who's the best player on the ice" on any given night.

In the moment it can be incredibly frustrating but so far, from my perspective as a fan, they have managed to negotiate the situation pretty deftly.

Losing Kale Clague on waivers is, to my thinking, the only missed opportunity based on a failure to properly read the future and frankly I don't care about that.



The organization has prematurely reached a "yea but what about the playoffs" stage. Nothing that happens between February 1st and the end of the season will have mattered if the playoffs are disappointing and will be even less meaningful if they mishandle some of the difficult decisions that are looming in the offseason.

I've been thinking (and saying) that I anticipated multiple trades for almost two full seasons now because I kept thinking they had "too many guys"... well they didn't make any of those trades, they're contending for 1st place in the Western Conference and we have to wait and see if they have any success in the playoffs then we'll get to evaluate the offseason.

The calendar pages keep flipping and I fully understand the concern people have with the team heading into the playoffs but sticking point I see in a lot of these recurring arguments is that they're about potential futures and as correct as some of the doom-sayers may or may not be unfortunately you can't really criticize a future that hasn't happened yet.
 

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People just say shit. It's not that they don't have LHD. They currently have 8 under contract. Actually more LHD then RHD under contract, and that's including Clarke. If you'd like to add Gaunce in there as an AHL guy, that's that many more LHD. It's weird that Bjornfot, after 33 NHL games to 1 AHL game in 20-21, and then 70 NHL games to 0 AHL games in 21-22, has been in Ontario most of this season, but it's not like he's not there to be used.
And yet, heading into the season, we only had one NHL-caliber left-handed defenseman, Mikey Anderson. Edler has continued to show that he's a 7th defenseman at best. I guess Bjornfot isn't good enough to play, and neither is Moverare, Nousiainen, or Bisson. Two of the eight were acquired in the last month: Gavrikov and Krygier. So as of October 2022, we had six left-handed defensemen under contract with one and a half being competent in the NHL?

Compare that to our right-handed defensemen depth, in which six of the seven are at least better than Edler: Doughty, Roy, Clarke, Durzi, Spence, and Walker, with Grans being the seventh.

I'm not sure exactly what you're on about.
 

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People just say shit. It's not that they don't have LHD. They currently have 8 under contract. Actually more LHD then RHD under contract, and that's including Clarke. If you'd like to add Gaunce in there as an AHL guy, that's that many more LHD. It's weird that Bjornfot, after 33 NHL games to 1 AHL game in 20-21, and then 70 NHL games to 0 AHL games in 21-22, has been in Ontario most of this season, but it's not like he's not there to be used.

Do we really have to be pedantic about it?

I mean no one here is going "Yeah but why isn't Gaunce in the NHL"

This is about guys who are either clearly or possibly better options not even getting a sniff.
 
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its a bizarre situation. Is the goal to save money? Is the goal to maintain regular season butts in seats? Why are otherwise competent LHD and other players buried? The end result (among other things) IMO is our team winds up an early out in the playoffs and stays in that shit twilight zone of never being quite good enough to seriously challenge for the stanley cup but being too good to get early draft picks or lottery picks.
There’s an old saying that states: “never attempt to explain through malice what can more accurately be explained by incompetence.” And i would add - favoritisim.
 
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I think the problem is that Walker got hurt for a full year and in his absence Durzi proved himself capable of skating NHL shifts and then they acquired Fiala.

It was a sequence of unforeseen events that conspired to paint them into a contractual corner. The organization has been more than forthcoming about the fact that some decisions have been made based on contracts, contract status, waiver eligibility and more not just "who's the best player on the ice" on any given night.

In the moment it can be incredibly frustrating but so far, from my perspective as a fan, they have managed to negotiate the situation pretty deftly.

Losing Kale Clague on waivers is, to my thinking, the only missed opportunity based on a failure to properly read the future and frankly I don't care about that.
Are you saying they shouldn't have waived Clague, or am I just reading this wrong?
 

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Are you saying they shouldn't have waived Clague, or am I just reading this wrong?
no I'm saying the only clear "missed opportunity" on the resume is that they lost a drafted player (2nd round) to waivers for nothing.

Theoretically they could have anticipated their own lack of interest in his skill set, gauged potential interest in the player around the league and traded him for something rather than simply lose the player for nothing.

I don't care that it happened... I'm just acknowledging that if you wanted to take a strict "asset management" approach to critiquing the front office that is a mark against them.

I don't like that approach but I'm aware others do.
 

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Part of the problem is the lack of progression from Bjornfot. They took a kid in the 1st round who made the team out of camp at 18 and was an NHL regular at 19 and now at 21 is an AHL/NHL tweener. In the big picture when they started constructing the team, they surely had Toby slotted into a more prominent role by now.

Not saying that absolves them from everything, because they should have targeted more LHD’s. But that’s a big reason for the dire situation.
But who would expect a defensemen taken in the late 1st round to be a fully time NHLer by 21?

I mean it happens, but not that often I don't think.

I assume Bjornfot would be in the NHL right now, except for the fact that he's waiver's exempt.

In Bjornfot's draft there were 3 dmen taken 20th or later in the 1st round:
Heinola, 20th, 35gp
Bjornfot, 22nd, 114gp
Johnson, 31st, 0gp
 

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And yet, heading into the season, we only had one NHL-caliber left-handed defenseman, Mikey Anderson. Edler has continued to show that he's a 7th defenseman at best. I guess Bjornfot isn't good enough to play, and neither is Moverare, Nousiainen, or Bisson. Two of the eight were acquired in the last month: Gavrikov and Krygier. So as of October 2022, we had six left-handed defensemen under contract with one and a half being competent in the NHL?

Compare that to our right-handed defensemen depth, in which six of the seven are at least better than Edler: Doughty, Roy, Clarke, Durzi, Spence, and Walker, with Grans being the seventh.

I'm not sure exactly what you're on about.

Why do you expect others to want Durzi or Walker when we can't stand them? Not that it's guaranteed that Blake wants to trade them. He's a conservative GM who won't make a deal just to do it. He likes depth. How many of the other trades involving d-men during the summer were what you'd call something you want to do? Who were the UFAs that the Kings had a shot at? Don't name trades that didn't happen, and players that didn't move, even though you have some fantasy trade in your head that could've been done.

One of the dumbest things that people do is make up a trade in their head, and then get mad at the GM when it doesn't happen. We don't know who wants to trade who where at any given time. We don't know why any team will do what they do. Walker for a pick. It's easy! Maybe other teams don't want to add what amounts to over $6m in cash to a at best 3rd pair d-man for a pick. Maybe it's not as stupidly easy as some like to make it out to be. Maybe it's not as hard, and Blake is an idiot, but, don't make up trades and then get upset when they don't happen. I will gladly die on that hill. Just get Soucey, because what Seattle wants doesn't matter.

Do we really have to be pedantic about it?

I mean no one here is going "Yeah but why isn't Gaunce in the NHL"

This is about guys who are either clearly or possibly better options not even getting a sniff.

Yes we do have to be pedantic. Details matter. It sucks, but when we have zero real info, and are just making bullshit up, details matter. Otherwise we just go to the lazy Blake's surfing too much. Such brilliant analysis. Blake isn't doing what I want him to do, so that must mean he's not doing anything. He can't see what I see. This team needs Tom Wilson. I'll make up a trade to get him, and if it doesn't happen, Blake's surfing too much.
 

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Yes we do have to be pedantic. Details matter. It sucks, but when we have zero real info, and are just making bullshit up, details matter. Otherwise we just go to the lazy Blake's surfing too much. Such brilliant analysis. Blake isn't doing what I want him to do, so that must mean he's not doing anything. He can't see what I see. This team needs Tom Wilson. I'll make up a trade to get him, and if it doesn't happen, Blake's surfing too much.

You've been here as long as we have. There's literally no reason, other than to satisfy your pedantry, that we need to longhand "we have enough LHD in the organization but none to actually play since we have Anderson Bjornfot Gavrikov Moverare Gaunce" when what we clearly mean and have been talking about for the last 2+ years is the imbalance in LHD and RHD in the organization making things an absolute fire drill when someone gets hurt. All you're doing is saying 'wait wait wait step back...we DO have LHD, but they aren't serious options" and that does...what?

The point is Blake clearly sees what we do to some degree but like the goaltending pipeline even though morons like me could see the issues in LHD/G coming 3 years ago and have been taking hits for complaining about it, here we are, where praying for Mikey's health is the strategy, trading a 1st and a franchise legend for a bandaid, while playing our third string goaltender and trading for a G who has had no consistent success until this year to replace said franchise legend and Blake's goalie of the future.
 

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Honesty is the best policy.
Blake has done a pretty terrible job with LHD and goaltending, and it has noticeably affected the results.
The Gav-Korpi trade got us back to functionality, but of course one key injury exposes the truth.
Todd doesnt help with his slavish obsession to the Durzi-Roy pairing.
 

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Honesty is the best policy.
Blake has done a pretty terrible job with LHD and goaltending, and it has noticeably affected the results.
The Gav-Korpi trade got us back to functionality, but of course one key injury exposes the truth.
Todd doesnt help with his slavish obsession to the Durzi-Roy pairing.

And it cost us a 1st to do it, and there's no guarantee it's a long term fix.

That's an expensive price to pay for either a lack of foresight or inaction on foresight.
 

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You've been here as long as we have. There's literally no reason, other than to satisfy your pedantry, that we need to longhand "we have enough LHD in the organization but none to actually play since we have Anderson Bjornfot Gavrikov Moverare Gaunce" when what we clearly mean and have been talking about for the last 2+ years is the imbalance in LHD and RHD in the organization making things an absolute fire drill when someone gets hurt. All you're doing is saying 'wait wait wait step back...we DO have LHD, but they aren't serious options" and that does...what?

The point is Blake clearly sees what we do to some degree but like the goaltending pipeline even though morons like me could see the issues in LHD/G coming 3 years ago and have been taking hits for complaining about it, here we are, where praying for Mikey's health is the strategy, trading a 1st and a franchise legend for a bandaid, while playing our third string goaltender and trading for a G who has had no consistent success until this year to replace said franchise legend and Blake's goalie of the future.
This.
Well written sir.
 
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I think the problem is that Walker got hurt for a full year and in his absence Durzi proved himself capable of skating NHL shifts and then they acquired Fiala.

It was a sequence of unforeseen events that conspired to paint them into a contractual corner. The organization has been more than forthcoming about the fact that some decisions have been made based on contracts, contract status, waiver eligibility and more not just "who's the best player on the ice" on any given night.

In the moment it can be incredibly frustrating but so far, from my perspective as a fan, they have managed to negotiate the situation pretty deftly.

Losing Kale Clague on waivers is, to my thinking, the only missed opportunity based on a failure to properly read the future and frankly I don't care about that.



The organization has prematurely reached a "yea but what about the playoffs" stage. Nothing that happens between February 1st and the end of the season will have mattered if the playoffs are disappointing and will be even less meaningful if they mishandle some of the difficult decisions that are looming in the offseason.

I've been thinking (and saying) that I anticipated multiple trades for almost two full seasons now because I kept thinking they had "too many guys"... well they didn't make any of those trades, they're contending for 1st place in the Western Conference and we have to wait and see if they have any success in the playoffs then we'll get to evaluate the offseason.

The calendar pages keep flipping and I fully understand the concern people have with the team heading into the playoffs but sticking point I see in a lot of these recurring arguments is that they're about potential futures and as correct as some of the doom-sayers may or may not be unfortunately you can't really criticize a future that hasn't happened yet.

We are currently living in a future in which we have traded a 1st round pick for a rental LHD, and despite an injury to another LHD, the coaching staff continues to play four RHD, which don’t even include our two best young up and coming RHD. Oh, and a young NHL ready LHD sits in the press box.

When are we allowed to criticize the management of the Kings blueline?
 

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We are currently living in a future in which we have traded a 1st round pick for a rental LHD, and despite an injury to another LHD, the coaching staff continues to play four RHD, which don’t even include our two best young up and coming RHD. Oh, and a young NHL ready LHD sits in the press box.

When are we allowed to criticize the management of the Kings blueline?
You can criticize it whenever you want. I'm not the boss of you.
 

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Why do you expect others to want Durzi or Walker when we can't stand them? Not that it's guaranteed that Blake wants to trade them. He's a conservative GM who won't make a deal just to do it. He likes depth. How many of the other trades involving d-men during the summer were what you'd call something you want to do? Who were the UFAs that the Kings had a shot at? Don't name trades that didn't happen, and players that didn't move, even though you have some fantasy trade in your head that could've been done.

One of the dumbest things that people do is make up a trade in their head, and then get mad at the GM when it doesn't happen. We don't know who wants to trade who where at any given time. We don't know why any team will do what they do. Walker for a pick. It's easy! Maybe other teams don't want to add what amounts to over $6m in cash to a at best 3rd pair d-man for a pick. Maybe it's not as stupidly easy as some like to make it out to be. Maybe it's not as hard, and Blake is an idiot, but, don't make up trades and then get upset when they don't happen. I will gladly die on that hill. Just get Soucey, because what Seattle wants doesn't matter.

Trades: Romanov, McDonagh, Matheson, Lundkvist, etc

Signings: Chiarot, Leddy, Zadorov, etc

If Blake is a conservative GM who values depth, then why don’t we have depth at LHD? It’s clear this was a problem even last year, and Blake addressed part of it at the trade deadline this year.

One of the dumbest things people do is make sweeping accusations on hockey message boards.
 

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But who would expect a defensemen taken in the late 1st round to be a fully time NHLer by 21?

I mean it happens, but not that often I don't think.

I assume Bjornfot would be in the NHL right now, except for the fact that he's waiver's exempt.

In Bjornfot's draft there were 3 dmen taken 20th or later in the 1st round:
Heinola, 20th, 35gp
Bjornfot, 22nd, 114gp
Johnson, 31st, 0gp
Expecting him to play - no.
But under the Kings circumstances with only one good LHD in front of him last year and for the first 60% of this year - yes. Either the young 21 old should play coming into the year or you get someone who can instead. Especially for a team who is set on making the playoffs; and with crappy goalies. Pretty simple.
 
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As a long time kings fan, it was disappointing when mike futa got ran off. Things would have been different had he remained as asst gm and director of player personell
 
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Yes we do have to be pedantic. Details matter. It sucks, but when we have zero real info, and are just making bullshit up, details matter. Otherwise we just go to the lazy Blake's surfing too much. Such brilliant analysis. Blake isn't doing what I want him to do, so that must mean he's not doing anything. He can't see what I see. This team needs Tom Wilson. I'll make up a trade to get him, and if it doesn't happen, Blake's surfing too much.
This is peak dishonesty. There’s no other way around it. You’re subjecting all the mishaps to “not enough info” when there’s all this visible evidence that doesn’t need other context.

There’s no further information that we as fans need that will justify any of the mishandling done by the Blake organization.

To subject the lack of LD and Goaltending as “not enough info” is just bootlicking to put it mildly.

Kings got MacEwen for toughness with a face shield. How much more mental gymnastics do you need to do to pretend that trade made sense?

Do you need a doctor to tell you you’re fat or one peek at the bulbous gut give you the answer already?
 
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You've been here as long as we have. There's literally no reason, other than to satisfy your pedantry, that we need to longhand "we have enough LHD in the organization but none to actually play since we have Anderson Bjornfot Gavrikov Moverare Gaunce" when what we clearly mean and have been talking about for the last 2+ years is the imbalance in LHD and RHD in the organization making things an absolute fire drill when someone gets hurt. All you're doing is saying 'wait wait wait step back...we DO have LHD, but they aren't serious options" and that does...what?

The point is Blake clearly sees what we do to some degree but like the goaltending pipeline even though morons like me could see the issues in LHD/G coming 3 years ago and have been taking hits for complaining about it, here we are, where praying for Mikey's health is the strategy, trading a 1st and a franchise legend for a bandaid, while playing our third string goaltender and trading for a G who has had no consistent success until this year to replace said franchise legend and Blake's goalie of the future.
Well said. We can also say "the Kings don't need a goalie. The pipeline already has Ingham, Hrenak, Markkanen, Villalta, and Parik."

The discussion is having quality players (in my example, goaltending, but specifically, LD) capable of playing at the NHL level for a quality team.
 

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You can criticize it whenever you want. I'm not the boss of you.

The problem is that a contingent of posters have surrounded Blake with a wall of criticism repellent, in which he always gets to eat his cake and have it, too. Case in point, @KingsFan7824’s doublethink masterpiece of:

“Blake has actually addressed the LHD problem. Look at all the LHD in the system.”

Followed by

“None of the LHD in the system are actually reliable NHL defensemen, including Bjornfot who clearly took a step back.”

Do you see the problem? None of this is Blake’s fault now. It’s Bjornfot’s fault for “regressing” (which isn’t even true), or Moverare’s fault for not developing. Blake skirts the criticism.

@Raccoon Jesus has been ringing the alarm bells for nine months about this blueline being one Mikey Anderson injury away from a serious problem. And now here we are. But again, we can’t lay that at Blake’s feet because we don’t have a LHD problem, and if we do, it must be the player’s fault. Ridiculous.

We have to be able to criticize the GM and coach for roster construction and management. Otherwise we’re doing the blind homer, “you’re just a dumb fan you don’t know what’s actually going on” thing, which is childish and pointless and kills all discourse.
 

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But who would expect a defensemen taken in the late 1st round to be a fully time NHLer by 21?

I mean it happens, but not that often I don't think.

I assume Bjornfot would be in the NHL right now, except for the fact that he's waiver's exempt.

In Bjornfot's draft there were 3 dmen taken 20th or later in the 1st round:
Heinola, 20th, 35gp
Bjornfot, 22nd, 114gp
Johnson, 31st, 0gp

Well, he was an NHL’er at 19 and 20, so yes I would assume the Kings probably projected him to be an NHL player right now.

I feel like you expect significantly more growth from Bjornfot, but considering there hasn’t really been much between 19 and 21, I still think he is probably one of those guys who just peaked at a younger age. I’d still prefer him over Edler at this point, and be is fine as a #6 type guy. Just saying when people bring up the lack of LHD, his lack of progression is a factor.
 

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You've been here as long as we have. There's literally no reason, other than to satisfy your pedantry, that we need to longhand "we have enough LHD in the organization but none to actually play since we have Anderson Bjornfot Gavrikov Moverare Gaunce" when what we clearly mean and have been talking about for the last 2+ years is the imbalance in LHD and RHD in the organization making things an absolute fire drill when someone gets hurt. All you're doing is saying 'wait wait wait step back...we DO have LHD, but they aren't serious options" and that does...what?

The point is Blake clearly sees what we do to some degree but like the goaltending pipeline even though morons like me could see the issues in LHD/G coming 3 years ago and have been taking hits for complaining about it, here we are, where praying for Mikey's health is the strategy, trading a 1st and a franchise legend for a bandaid, while playing our third string goaltender and trading for a G who has had no consistent success until this year to replace said franchise legend and Blake's goalie of the future.

Almost like there are other teams not just wanting to give guys away. I'm sure every other team always fills their holes every year. Nobody else goes a few years where they can't quite find the right guy at the right time.

We have all been here a long time. Never have GMs been able to do everything they want/need when they want to. Just like it takes a while to deconstruct a team in a hard cap world, it takes a while to construct one.

Trades: Romanov, McDonagh, Matheson, Lundkvist, etc

Signings: Chiarot, Leddy, Zadorov, etc

If Blake is a conservative GM who values depth, then why don’t we have depth at LHD? It’s clear this was a problem even last year, and Blake addressed part of it at the trade deadline this year.

One of the dumbest things people do is make sweeping accusations on hockey message boards.

And the Kings are supposed to get some of those guys how? Go A to Z. How is it done? Who is the Petry on the Kings that Pit wants back for Matheson? You want the Kings to give out, probably an even worse contract, to get Chariot? Zadorov re-signed with Calgary. He seems to like it there. You'd have to incentivize him to leave. He got $7.5m for 2 years. Figure it takes more to get him here. $8.5m? $9m? 3 or 4 years instead of 2?

This is peak dishonesty. There’s no other way around it. You’re subjecting all the mishaps to “not enough info” when there’s all this visible evidence that doesn’t need other context.

There’s no further information that we as fans need that will justify any of the mishandling done by the Blake organization.

To subject the lack of LD and Goaltending as “not enough info” is just bootlicking to put it mildly.

Kings got MacEwen for toughness with a face shield. How much more mental gymnastics do you need to do to pretend that trade made sense?

Do you need a doctor to tell you you’re fat or one peek at the bulbous gut give you the answer already?

I'm not subjecting the mishaps to not enough info. I'm subjecting our comments, like Blake is out surfing too much, to not enough info. Just because you think you know every answer, doesn't mean that you do. Of course you need more context. Just because they didn't get ____, doesn't mean they didn't try. It might mean they didn't want that guy. It might mean the other team didn't want what the Kings had to offer. Maybe a guy has a movement clause, and doesn't want to be out in CA. There can be many reasons why something does or does not happen. But that's bootlicking, somehow.

But since I'm a bootlicking troll anyway, I'll just honest. I think some people are bothered that the Kings are even relatively decent, and certainly that they didn't regress this year, even though they should have in the eyes of those people, because they hate management. I think that's a weird ass way to be a fan, but then there were Bruins fans that thought that team should've fired their management over previous failed years, and should've rebuilt a long time ago.
 

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Almost like there are other teams not just wanting to give guys away. I'm sure every other team always fills their holes every year. Nobody else goes a few years where they can't quite find the right guy at the right time.

We have all been here a long time. Never have GMs been able to do everything they want/need when they want to. Just like it takes a while to deconstruct a team in a hard cap world, it takes a while to construct one.



And the Kings are supposed to get some of those guys how? Go A to Z. How is it done? Who is the Petry on the Kings that Pit wants back for Matheson? You want the Kings to give out, probably an even worse contract, to get Chariot? Zadorov re-signed with Calgary. He seems to like it there. You'd have to incentivize him to leave. He got $7.5m for 2 years. Figure it takes more to get him here. $8.5m? $9m? 3 or 4 years instead of 2?



I'm not subjecting the mishaps to not enough info. I'm subjecting our comments, like Blake is out surfing too much, to not enough info. Just because you think you know every answer, doesn't mean that you do. Of course you need more context. Just because they didn't get ____, doesn't mean they didn't try. It might mean they didn't want that guy. It might mean the other team didn't want what the Kings had to offer. Maybe a guy has a movement clause, and doesn't want to be out in CA. There can be many reasons why something does or does not happen. But that's bootlicking, somehow.

But since I'm a bootlicking troll anyway, I'll just honest. I think some people are bothered that the Kings are even relatively decent, and certainly that they didn't regress this year, even though they should have in the eyes of those people, because they hate management. I think that's a weird ass way to be a fan, but then there were Bruins fans that thought that team should've fired their management over previous failed years, and should've rebuilt a long time ago.
I think that’s a weird way of looking at it. The reason why people are upset is not because they secretly think the kings should be regressing. They’re more upset that trolls suggest that just because the Kings are doing well this year means that the Kings actually don’t have issues.


Kings are lucky to be in this spot considering how poorly goaltending was managed. Worst goaltending in the NHL and they had no answer for it. Copley wasn’t part of the plan.

Kings have Durzi playing LD and are balls deep in RD. They didn’t do anything to fix the LD issue which is why they were bleeding goals as Well. All in while having much better alternatives like Spence and Bjornfot riding pine for no reason.

And Tmacs mind numbing line up and decisions are not to be looked over just because the Kings are winning. The Kings have been winning despite a ton of mismanagement. There’s a bunch of you who conflate winning with good management. That’s the big issue.
 
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