Proposal: LA Kings - MTL (Chariot, Toffoli va prospects)

[kinghock]

No not enough .

Good, please keep them or find somebody else to trade them.

 

[1000eeer]

In dreams of Montreal fans Kupari and Grans would be good and realistic targets for trading not needed assets.
In dream of Kings fans Guhle and Romanov would be good and realistic targets for trading not needed assets.
Please stop dreaming Canadiens fans.

I'm not saying that It's a good move for LA. I wouldn't do It. But you never know what our GMs next moves might be.

Toffoli will go to a cup contender IMO.

But the message is, you never know..

Every GM makes dumb decisions

 

[Draft]

Gallagher is a nice wee player, but just the wrong age for us with that contract.

Fair, but he's only 34 when he turns 34. In the meantime, he's 29 and a contributor. Five years from now, the cap will have risen and our teams will be unrecognizable. Making a decision based on an abstract evaluation of his age 34 season (when he could very well still be a highly effective player) instead of when he can contribute to the team while it's in a playoff position is not how NHL executives on short-term contracts operate. This isn't to say that Gallagher is the best option for LA and his cap hit should be ignored, just that LA has cap space and they're going to use it while they can - regardless of a player's age. The acquisition of Danault is a pretty good example of that line of thinking. The transition from young/cheap team to contender is a tricky one and LA is right on the cusp of it.

 

[Kingspiracy]

Fair, but he's only 34 when he turns 34. In the meantime, he's 29 and a contributor. Five years from now, the cap will have risen and our teams will be unrecognizable. Making a decision based on an abstract evaluation of his age 34 season (when he could very well still be a highly effective player) instead of when he can contribute to the team while it's in a playoff position is not how NHL executives on short-term contracts operate. This isn't to say that Gallagher is the best option for LA and his cap hit should be ignored, just that LA has cap space and they're going to use it while they can - regardless of a player's age. The acquisition of Danault is a pretty good example of that line of thinking. The transition from young/cheap team to contender is a tricky one and LA is right on the cusp of it.

Yeah, but gallagher is a small guy that plays bigger than he is. He will likely fall apart in a year or two.

We've seen this movie before with Mike Richards (Although he also had other issues)

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Fair, but he's only 34 when he turns 34. In the meantime, he's 29 and a contributor. Five years from now, the cap will have risen and our teams will be unrecognizable. Making a decision based on an abstract evaluation of his age 34 season (when he could very well still be a highly effective player) instead of when he can contribute to the team while it's in a playoff position is not how NHL executives on short-term contracts operate. This isn't to say that Gallagher is the best option for LA and his cap hit should be ignored, just that LA has cap space and they're going to use it while they can - regardless of a player's age. The acquisition of Danault is a pretty good example of that line of thinking. The transition from young/cheap team to contender is a tricky one and LA is right on the cusp of it.

I absolutely love Gallagher but LA isn't in a position to be taking on older contracts with significant term.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I think MTL is better off looking elsewhere as they're likely to get more value.

LA isn't really in the market for a pure rental and they might not even need that in Chairot with Edler returning.

Toffoli has term and though he's well liked in LA that ship has sailed.

Either guy is a complementary piece for a true contender who can likely give up a late 1st, LA isn't quite there yet. While they can start moving assets to accelerate the rebuild and competitive window, a nearly 30-year-old winger and dman aren't quite worth it to us. I definitely wouldn't give up Grans for either guy--value in a vacuum probably fine but not in this situation.

 

[vokiel]

Habs are not retooling

The only realistic scenarios where the GM targets prospects for a reasonable price are reclamation projects. I call those gambles, not retools. A retool is when you acquire veterans or soon to be UFAs and try to make a new core out of them.

 

[ole ole]

Habs are not retooling

The only realistic scenarios where the GM targets prospects for a reasonable price are reclamation projects. I call those gambles, not retools. A retool is when you acquire veterans or soon to be UFAs and try to make a new core out of them.

Agree. Habs are not retooling. They are in a complete rebuild.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

No thanks, dont really want Tt or Chiarot, perhaps try the ducks.

What did we do to you to deserve that

 

[vokiel]

Agree. Habs are not retooling. They are in a complete rebuild.

Maybe not a complete fire sale rebuild, but they do need to rebuild their core. That's for sure.

 

[kings11]

I can see Toffoli heading to Calgary as Sutter absolutely loves top titty!!

Chariot is not in our wheelhouse

 

[Kurrilino]

For a retool, Habs are looking for prospects, not picks. Prospects pool is thin at C and RD.

LA is looking for scoring help on W and LD. Their prospects pool at C and RD is healthy even almost a lockjam.

Which C and RD prospects LA Kings will be willing to trade for Toffoli and Chariot (easy to assume Chariot will accept an extension with LA). Bergevin would surely recommended to bring those two.

We are retooling our self, no trade to be made

 

[deaderhead28]

Kupari + Grans

Hell no

 

[Kurrilino]

What did we do to you to deserve that

You will take them and you gonna like them

 

[Kurrilino]

Not how it works, this is a open dialog where anybody can comment and/or jump into a conversation at any point.

You are right of course.

And to contribute to the open dialog, i have to say that not a single player in Montreal except Guhle is of interest to the Kings.
The reasoning is either age, performance or size

 

[McJedi]

Hell no

Gotta pay to play. I like Grans too, which is how LA would get Toffoli back. Kupari isn’t it. He’d kinda underwhelming.

 

[Habsrule]

I feel like those two should be traded separately. Let other teams try to outbid each other. Plus without looking do the Kings have 8ish million in free cap space?

 

[BatVader]

Jets will give you Wheeler for Toffoli

 

[Schmooley]

Gotta pay to play. I like Grans too, which is how LA would get Toffoli back. Kupari isn’t it. He’d kinda underwhelming.

If the Kings wanted him they wouldnt have let him go for a 2nd and b prospect. Why do you think they should pay a high price to get him back and why is the cost for him double now?

 

[apocalypse]

Chairot is someone the kings should pursue. Big physical sah defenseman. Guy would be a good add for la. Would mon do Andersson for Chiarot?

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Rebuild*

 

[go4hockey]

Gotta pay to play. I like Grans too, which is how LA would get Toffoli back. Kupari isn’t it. He’d kinda underwhelming.

LA does not want TT back. We have seen his production here and it’s not anywhere close to what he is doing elsewhere.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Gotta pay to play.

We understand the concept.

We're saying we don't want to play. Not for the prices those players would command, certainly. MTL will get better elsewhere.

 

[Hoochi Papa]

Fair, but he's only 34 when he turns 34. In the meantime, he's 29 and a contributor. Five years from now, the cap will have risen and our teams will be unrecognizable. Making a decision based on an abstract evaluation of his age 34 season (when he could very well still be a highly effective player) instead of when he can contribute to the team while it's in a playoff position is not how NHL executives on short-term contracts operate. This isn't to say that Gallagher is the best option for LA and his cap hit should be ignored, just that LA has cap space and they're going to use it while they can - regardless of a player's age. The acquisition of Danault is a pretty good example of that line of thinking. The transition from young/cheap team to contender is a tricky one and LA is right on the cusp of it.

Please, don't try wish this sort of things into existence. Gallagher has been utter shit for two seasons now and there's five years left in his deal. This is easily one of the worst contracts in NHL - Loui Eriksson level of awfulness. To assume someone would pay for his atrocious contract is next level mental gymnastics. Gally's wheels are off, his style of hockey wears people out by their early 30s and he's small. Any team would probably ask for 50% salary retention and top-5 draft pick to acquire him.

 

[ScoreZeGoals]

Bad trading partners, the Kings wouldn't be interested in either player