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A couple other defensemen:
#41 Roach is plateauing from what I've seen in the past. Still plays a physical game, but should have been able to outmuscle Roy in their battles.
#59 Middleton played the body well.
#34 LaDue looked to do all the drills well when I looked at him, though I didn't see how he did physically. I was always caught watching the other pairing.
Goalies
Toffoli and Pearson joined the Junior Kings to take some shots on the goalies. Even in practice, they are so fun to watch.
1. First drill, they had to stop the puck behind the net, and either leave it or pass to the defense.
2. Then there were just various drills where they had to stop the puck.
#33 Jack McBride; non skill related, he has the most awesome looking gear. I love the green pads. Goes well with his name and the PA Raiders jersey. Anyway, skill wise, he's the most fluid and technically sound goaltender out of the group.
#65 Jack Flinn; At 6'8, he's HUGE. He covered so much net naturally. He froze up a couple times handling the puck behind the net
#75 Alec Dillon; He covered the net fairly well, and also froze up and was hesitant with the puck. He also had a tendency to go down to the butterfly too early.
#85 Maximillian Franzreb; Probably the most athletic goaltender, but he's so much smaller compared to the others.
#41 Roach is plateauing from what I've seen in the past. Still plays a physical game, but should have been able to outmuscle Roy in their battles.
#59 Middleton played the body well.
#34 LaDue looked to do all the drills well when I looked at him, though I didn't see how he did physically. I was always caught watching the other pairing.
Goalies
Toffoli and Pearson joined the Junior Kings to take some shots on the goalies. Even in practice, they are so fun to watch.
1. First drill, they had to stop the puck behind the net, and either leave it or pass to the defense.
2. Then there were just various drills where they had to stop the puck.
#33 Jack McBride; non skill related, he has the most awesome looking gear. I love the green pads. Goes well with his name and the PA Raiders jersey. Anyway, skill wise, he's the most fluid and technically sound goaltender out of the group.
#65 Jack Flinn; At 6'8, he's HUGE. He covered so much net naturally. He froze up a couple times handling the puck behind the net
#75 Alec Dillon; He covered the net fairly well, and also froze up and was hesitant with the puck. He also had a tendency to go down to the butterfly too early.
#85 Maximillian Franzreb; Probably the most athletic goaltender, but he's so much smaller compared to the others.
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Goalie session ended. Was very entertaining. Have a feeling McBride will get a contract. Of course I will post more later.
Better wording is I think they should sign him.
Better wording is I think they should sign him.
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King'sPawn
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There was a group session of forwards and d. Very busy, was only 45 minutes. Not sure if they are going to do anything from 11 - 12?
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The camp appears to have ended with a 4-on-4 scrimmage then a 3-on-3. With no news of camp continuing tomorrow, I'm going home. Will post my thoughts tonight.
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Kingsfan1
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What position does Brodzinski play ? Very intrigued by him. Feel like he is going to be a steal
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He's plays on the wing. Think he's listed as a right wing but we know how messed up that can be.
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How many times does a player need to go through the draft before he is eligible to sign as a free agent? For instance, that Russian kid who got an invite, Damir S., played for Owen Sound and is only 19. Is he signable?
(Not related, but the Carolina Hurricanes have some funny nicknames for prospects. Ex. McLovin, Seabass, Needaspellcheck. Love it.)
(Not related, but the Carolina Hurricanes have some funny nicknames for prospects. Ex. McLovin, Seabass, Needaspellcheck. Love it.)
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Think because of his age and the fact he is in the OHL he must go through the draft again. But it's a funny thing when dealing with those from outside NA.
Usually you are free to sign players that passed through one draft. There's some kind of special rule for Europeans though... I remember the Flyers tried to sign camp invitee Tomas Hyka who was passed over in a draft but they were not allowed due to him playing in Europe or something like that, and the Kings drafted him the following summer. Not sure exactly how it works but I think as long as they played in North America you're free to sign them.
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Here are some notes from today. I'll post more comprehensive thoughts later.
It started out with goalie drills. Nobody I knew was shooting.
1. First drill; on one end of the ice, there was a 2-on-0 breakaway where the player entering the zone always shot the puck. On the other end of the ice, shots were taken from the slot, and the goalie practiced making saves from different extremities and controlling the rebound. In this drill, Alec Dillon showed better timing today than yesterday in terms of dropping down to stop the puck. He had pretty erratic rebound control all day, though. Jack McBride had a little bit of trouble to start the day; he was struggling with high shots and showed poor rebound control. While these two were getting the 2-on-0 treatment, Franzreb and Flinn were on the other side getting shots to their extremities. Afterwards, the two groups switched. After switching and getting the 2-on-0 drills, Franzreb was showing very good rebound control. However, he seemed to fatigue as the drill went on, as his movements slowed down. Finally, Flinn showed very good rebound control, but for a bigger guy, he was having a hard time with shots down low. Don't read too much into this drill, though; it's no coincidence the players who got to practice shots from the slot first had better rebound control.
2. The goalies faced three shots. A shot from the high slot, a tip in attempt from a winger breaking down near the post, and a shot from a player controlling the puck from behind the net. McBride wasn't showing good habits in terms of actively looking behind the net to anticipate where the skater was coming out from. Flinn did a better job protecting the lower part of the net compared to the last drill, but his stickwork was questionable. Dillon showed exceptional attention to detail. He was actively looking back and forth to read the play, he was shoving at players who got too close to him - he practiced like it was a real game. His lateral movement was sub par, though. Franzreb was unremarkable.
3. The goalies had to deal with a 2-on-0 attack until the goalie smothered the play, a goal was scored, or the puck was cleared beyond the faceoff circles. Dillon showed terrible rebound control, but he also made unreal saves with some scrambles around the net. One time the puck lobbed up in the air, Dillon was on his back, and the puck just landed on his torso.
However, this is the drill where McBride shined the most. He frequently smothered the puck and limited the chances of the opposition. He had a good, active stick to block passing lanes. He had a couple funny moments, too, after a beautiful tipped pass led to a goal, McBride yelled at the coach, "Is that legal?" Then after the puck was deflected to the boards, he raced against the skater to knock the puck down the ice. He showed a lot of personality, skill, and technique at a level which is very good for a 6'4 18 year-old goaltender. He did have trouble tracking the puck a couple times. One time if he just fell down on his back, he would have covered it up. He didn't know where it was, though, so he didn't leave himself helpless. Unfortunately, it led to a goal. This happened another time when the puck was behind his skate, and he didn't know where it was. Still, in my limited viewings, he was certainly the best goaltender in the group.
Franzreb was next up. The biggest problem was due to being a smaller guy, he didn't cover up a lot of net. He got beat up high a lot. He also struggled with smothering the play. On the plus side, he had a good and active stick. He also had his own silly moment where he rushed out to clear the puck before the attacker could get there.
Flinn had a pretty below average showing. He's the oldest player of the group, but his rebound control and stick ability were the worst of the group.
As usual, more to come.
It started out with goalie drills. Nobody I knew was shooting.
1. First drill; on one end of the ice, there was a 2-on-0 breakaway where the player entering the zone always shot the puck. On the other end of the ice, shots were taken from the slot, and the goalie practiced making saves from different extremities and controlling the rebound. In this drill, Alec Dillon showed better timing today than yesterday in terms of dropping down to stop the puck. He had pretty erratic rebound control all day, though. Jack McBride had a little bit of trouble to start the day; he was struggling with high shots and showed poor rebound control. While these two were getting the 2-on-0 treatment, Franzreb and Flinn were on the other side getting shots to their extremities. Afterwards, the two groups switched. After switching and getting the 2-on-0 drills, Franzreb was showing very good rebound control. However, he seemed to fatigue as the drill went on, as his movements slowed down. Finally, Flinn showed very good rebound control, but for a bigger guy, he was having a hard time with shots down low. Don't read too much into this drill, though; it's no coincidence the players who got to practice shots from the slot first had better rebound control.
2. The goalies faced three shots. A shot from the high slot, a tip in attempt from a winger breaking down near the post, and a shot from a player controlling the puck from behind the net. McBride wasn't showing good habits in terms of actively looking behind the net to anticipate where the skater was coming out from. Flinn did a better job protecting the lower part of the net compared to the last drill, but his stickwork was questionable. Dillon showed exceptional attention to detail. He was actively looking back and forth to read the play, he was shoving at players who got too close to him - he practiced like it was a real game. His lateral movement was sub par, though. Franzreb was unremarkable.
3. The goalies had to deal with a 2-on-0 attack until the goalie smothered the play, a goal was scored, or the puck was cleared beyond the faceoff circles. Dillon showed terrible rebound control, but he also made unreal saves with some scrambles around the net. One time the puck lobbed up in the air, Dillon was on his back, and the puck just landed on his torso.
However, this is the drill where McBride shined the most. He frequently smothered the puck and limited the chances of the opposition. He had a good, active stick to block passing lanes. He had a couple funny moments, too, after a beautiful tipped pass led to a goal, McBride yelled at the coach, "Is that legal?" Then after the puck was deflected to the boards, he raced against the skater to knock the puck down the ice. He showed a lot of personality, skill, and technique at a level which is very good for a 6'4 18 year-old goaltender. He did have trouble tracking the puck a couple times. One time if he just fell down on his back, he would have covered it up. He didn't know where it was, though, so he didn't leave himself helpless. Unfortunately, it led to a goal. This happened another time when the puck was behind his skate, and he didn't know where it was. Still, in my limited viewings, he was certainly the best goaltender in the group.
Franzreb was next up. The biggest problem was due to being a smaller guy, he didn't cover up a lot of net. He got beat up high a lot. He also struggled with smothering the play. On the plus side, he had a good and active stick. He also had his own silly moment where he rushed out to clear the puck before the attacker could get there.
Flinn had a pretty below average showing. He's the oldest player of the group, but his rebound control and stick ability were the worst of the group.
As usual, more to come.
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Thanks! Can't wait to see how our prospects develop and the affect it will have on our roster.
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The next session, the forwards and D both practiced together. This was fairly chaotic compared to what I usually see, and the session was so short that I won't write down any details on any particular player. Will just save it for my final thoughts, which I will post tonight.
1. Each prospect got a partner they would pass back and forth to, while skating around the rink. At the whistle, they battled each other for the puck
2. They skated goal line to goal line practicing puck protection techniques; the players formed four lines, and would stick handle the puck down the ice. At the blue line, they would switch to either forehand or backhand, but in a manner where they were in puck protection stance
3. The prospects partnered up again. This time they spread out along the length of the ice. One prospect bounced the puck off the board, skated after it, and did a head fake before retrieving it and passing it to his partner. The partner bounced the puck off the other wall, pursued, head fake, retrieve, rinse and repeat
4. They did 2-on-0 breakaways then did 3-on-0 breakaways, practicing passing back and forth.
5. Each prospect had a designated partner again. They skated end to end, doing a 1-on-1, with one designated attacker and one designated defender. Long and short of it, the designated attacker carried the puck from one zone while practicing puck protection, and the defender had to practice gap control skating backwards. Note that attacker and defender doesn't necessarily mean forward and defenseman.
6. A defenseman retrieved a puck from the corner and did a breakout pass to cause a 2-on-1.
These drills were short. The entire session, I believe, was only 30 minutes.
After the ice was resurfaced, everybody came out for a brief scrimmage. They played 4-on-4 then played 3-on-3. These were the teams:
Team White
Forwards: Marchment, Watson, Amadio, Brodzinski, Schmalz
Defense: LaDue, Wissman, Tiffels, Middleton, Roy, Reddekopp
Goalies: McBride, Dillon
Team Black
Forwards: Ruutu, Zykov, Wagner, Dergachyov, Sturos
Defense: Sharipziyanov, Lintuniemi, Mueller, Cernak, Johnson
Black: Flinn, Franzreb
In typical Kings fashion, nobody scored in the 4-on-4. During the 3-on-3, Brodzinski scored the lone goal against Jack Flinn. In my opinion, Team White grossly outplayed Team Black even if you ignore the score. They just moved, protected, and managed the puck better as a team.
Will post my comprehensive/final thoughts later on tonight, if not tomorrow.
1. Each prospect got a partner they would pass back and forth to, while skating around the rink. At the whistle, they battled each other for the puck
2. They skated goal line to goal line practicing puck protection techniques; the players formed four lines, and would stick handle the puck down the ice. At the blue line, they would switch to either forehand or backhand, but in a manner where they were in puck protection stance
3. The prospects partnered up again. This time they spread out along the length of the ice. One prospect bounced the puck off the board, skated after it, and did a head fake before retrieving it and passing it to his partner. The partner bounced the puck off the other wall, pursued, head fake, retrieve, rinse and repeat
4. They did 2-on-0 breakaways then did 3-on-0 breakaways, practicing passing back and forth.
5. Each prospect had a designated partner again. They skated end to end, doing a 1-on-1, with one designated attacker and one designated defender. Long and short of it, the designated attacker carried the puck from one zone while practicing puck protection, and the defender had to practice gap control skating backwards. Note that attacker and defender doesn't necessarily mean forward and defenseman.
6. A defenseman retrieved a puck from the corner and did a breakout pass to cause a 2-on-1.
These drills were short. The entire session, I believe, was only 30 minutes.
After the ice was resurfaced, everybody came out for a brief scrimmage. They played 4-on-4 then played 3-on-3. These were the teams:
Team White
Forwards: Marchment, Watson, Amadio, Brodzinski, Schmalz
Defense: LaDue, Wissman, Tiffels, Middleton, Roy, Reddekopp
Goalies: McBride, Dillon
Team Black
Forwards: Ruutu, Zykov, Wagner, Dergachyov, Sturos
Defense: Sharipziyanov, Lintuniemi, Mueller, Cernak, Johnson
Black: Flinn, Franzreb
In typical Kings fashion, nobody scored in the 4-on-4. During the 3-on-3, Brodzinski scored the lone goal against Jack Flinn. In my opinion, Team White grossly outplayed Team Black even if you ignore the score. They just moved, protected, and managed the puck better as a team.
Will post my comprehensive/final thoughts later on tonight, if not tomorrow.
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KopitarFAN
Reno Sucks!
It's an age thing, not a number of drafts.
Ex. Tanner Pearson got passed over in 2011, and we know what happened in 2012.
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Not sure what you are saying here. Pearson was drafted in 2012, not signed as a free agent.
KopitarFAN
Reno Sucks!
He went undrafted in 2011, hence his availability to be selected in 2012.
That's what I am saying.
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My overall impressions. Usual disclaimer every year: these viewings are limited. This is development camp. I'm not a scout. I will add SOME commentary based off of other viewings. If I have more than what I saw from development camp, I'll include it. Either way... take them for what they are, and try not to read too much into them.
Forwards:
#36 Alexander Ruutu - Son of Kings scout Christian Ruutu, the 22 year-old former pick of the Coyotes had a fairly solid showing. I thought his shot was his strongest asset; his puck protection was average. He wasn't very physical, but this camp wasn't supposed to show that off.
#38 Valentin Zykov - He had a pretty strong showing in all facets of the camp. He had 2015 draft pick Dergachyov at his hip at every opportunity, as well as invitee Damir Sharipzyanov during the drills today. He showed strong puck protection, skating, and one of the best shots in the camp. Including his influence on the other prospects and his individual skills, I'd say he had among the best bodies of work at camp. During the scrimmage, though, his team (and thus his linemates) just weren't very effective working together and managing the puck.
#39 Samuel LaBerge - He didn't participate in the scrimmage, or I didn't see him. The invitee showed strong skating mechanics from what I saw. He used his size and puck protection abilities well. I think there's a distant chance the Kings sign him, as he should be getting a bigger role in Rimouski.
#43 Jake Marchment - He didn't show very strong hands, but at the same time, he didn't lose his speed as he was carrying the puck. While doing the puck protection drill, he frequently finished before the other three prospects who had to handle the puck across the ice at the same time. As far as style of play, based on games I've seen, he does his best work when he's in front of the net.
#46 Spencer Watson - He looks a bit bigger than the listed 5'9 height, but he still wasn't very effective in any of the drills. For one of the smaller players, he didn't show strong speed or acceleration. He wasn't very physical, and his frame lacks the capability to be physical. In the small body of work, I wasn't overly impressed with him, although it's hard to argue with the numbers he puts up. I just struggle imagining him making an effective transition into the professional ranks.
#51 Austin Wagner - He was a bit hot and cold. On Thursday, he looked like the best overall player with his combination of skating, shooting, and puckhandling ability. On Friday, he didn't have nearly the same display of skills as before. In fact, he seemed to lose quite a bit of speed as he was trying to protect the puck, where he was either the third or fourth out of four prospects in a line to carry the puck. Granted, this is about improving fundamental skills, but Friday showed a bit more why he dropped to the fourth round - inconsistency. He also got muscled off the puck pretty easily by a much stronger Cernak during the one-on-one drills, so strength will need to be improved.
#52 Mike Amadio - He was one of my dark horses last year to be a riser in the organization. He ranged from lukewarm to cold during the individual drills. His biggest drawback from what I saw at camp is he looked like he needed to have complete control of the puck before committing to do something with it. That sort of time won't be afforded in the higher levels. During the scrimmage, however, he was pretty intriguing. The team just managed the puck better with him on the ice. Even if he wasn't directly involved with moving the puck, he put himself in good positions to allow for better overall cohesion. He's a prime example of how individual skills during these camps don't necessarily tell us the whole story.
#57 Alexander Dergachyov - Not much more needs to be said than what was already pointed out before. He's massive. He protects the puck very well, and even though he's not a very good skater, he still found inside position over a bigger and more experienced Alex Roach during the one-on-one drills. He also has a very deceptive release with his shot. Of course, the next step for him is improving his skating, but he has a lot of potential. What I do find most important is how much he stuck with Zykov, a more experienced player who was able to translate for him; he seemingly wants to do it right, and he's using the resources available to make it happen.
#64 Reid Sturos - He's a tall and lanky player. He's also the oldest player in the entire camp. He had a pretty rough go during the individual drills, frequently losing the puck. However, during the scrimmage, he seemed a lot more comfortable, as if the eyes suddenly aren't all on him. I doubt the Kings will offer him a contract, but given how hard and dedicated he played on the boards during the scrimmage, I also saw why they were intrigued by him.
#68 Joel Lowry - He didn't participate in camp. So an incomplete from that end. However, based off of previous viewings of him, he's one of those players who just has the puck come to him, but he's unable to bury it, as evidenced by his stagnating offensive numbers. From an organizational standpoint, I have a hard time seeing where he would fit in long term. I don't think he's a bad player, but he has had bad circumstances, especially with the injury, making the decision to keep him that much harder.
#76 Jonny Brodzinski - When combining individual skills with performance of the scrimmage, he had the best camp out of the prospects. He lost the puck a couple times when trying the puck protection drills, but he has great hands and a great shot. He scored the lone goal in the scrimmage on Friday. It wasn't a bullet, but it was perfectly placed. He also utilized his teammates well.
#80 Matthew Mistele - Incomplete, as he didn't participate in camp. However, the Memorial Cup winner shows a fair deal of skill and grit. On a weaker Plymouth team, he was one of the go-to players to catalyze the offense. On Oshawa, his role was reduced, but he was still effective.
#83 Matt Schmalz - Very big player, who skates okay for his size, though I wouldn't put skating as a strength. He has a good net presence, and a good attacking frame of mind. He wasn't shy about pushing the attack. I do think his shot is underwhelming for his size. I think it's better than Auger's was at the same age, but his skating is worse than Auger's. He's a project, but he has a big toolbox to put some tools in there.
Forwards:
#36 Alexander Ruutu - Son of Kings scout Christian Ruutu, the 22 year-old former pick of the Coyotes had a fairly solid showing. I thought his shot was his strongest asset; his puck protection was average. He wasn't very physical, but this camp wasn't supposed to show that off.
#38 Valentin Zykov - He had a pretty strong showing in all facets of the camp. He had 2015 draft pick Dergachyov at his hip at every opportunity, as well as invitee Damir Sharipzyanov during the drills today. He showed strong puck protection, skating, and one of the best shots in the camp. Including his influence on the other prospects and his individual skills, I'd say he had among the best bodies of work at camp. During the scrimmage, though, his team (and thus his linemates) just weren't very effective working together and managing the puck.
#39 Samuel LaBerge - He didn't participate in the scrimmage, or I didn't see him. The invitee showed strong skating mechanics from what I saw. He used his size and puck protection abilities well. I think there's a distant chance the Kings sign him, as he should be getting a bigger role in Rimouski.
#43 Jake Marchment - He didn't show very strong hands, but at the same time, he didn't lose his speed as he was carrying the puck. While doing the puck protection drill, he frequently finished before the other three prospects who had to handle the puck across the ice at the same time. As far as style of play, based on games I've seen, he does his best work when he's in front of the net.
#46 Spencer Watson - He looks a bit bigger than the listed 5'9 height, but he still wasn't very effective in any of the drills. For one of the smaller players, he didn't show strong speed or acceleration. He wasn't very physical, and his frame lacks the capability to be physical. In the small body of work, I wasn't overly impressed with him, although it's hard to argue with the numbers he puts up. I just struggle imagining him making an effective transition into the professional ranks.
#51 Austin Wagner - He was a bit hot and cold. On Thursday, he looked like the best overall player with his combination of skating, shooting, and puckhandling ability. On Friday, he didn't have nearly the same display of skills as before. In fact, he seemed to lose quite a bit of speed as he was trying to protect the puck, where he was either the third or fourth out of four prospects in a line to carry the puck. Granted, this is about improving fundamental skills, but Friday showed a bit more why he dropped to the fourth round - inconsistency. He also got muscled off the puck pretty easily by a much stronger Cernak during the one-on-one drills, so strength will need to be improved.
#52 Mike Amadio - He was one of my dark horses last year to be a riser in the organization. He ranged from lukewarm to cold during the individual drills. His biggest drawback from what I saw at camp is he looked like he needed to have complete control of the puck before committing to do something with it. That sort of time won't be afforded in the higher levels. During the scrimmage, however, he was pretty intriguing. The team just managed the puck better with him on the ice. Even if he wasn't directly involved with moving the puck, he put himself in good positions to allow for better overall cohesion. He's a prime example of how individual skills during these camps don't necessarily tell us the whole story.
#57 Alexander Dergachyov - Not much more needs to be said than what was already pointed out before. He's massive. He protects the puck very well, and even though he's not a very good skater, he still found inside position over a bigger and more experienced Alex Roach during the one-on-one drills. He also has a very deceptive release with his shot. Of course, the next step for him is improving his skating, but he has a lot of potential. What I do find most important is how much he stuck with Zykov, a more experienced player who was able to translate for him; he seemingly wants to do it right, and he's using the resources available to make it happen.
#64 Reid Sturos - He's a tall and lanky player. He's also the oldest player in the entire camp. He had a pretty rough go during the individual drills, frequently losing the puck. However, during the scrimmage, he seemed a lot more comfortable, as if the eyes suddenly aren't all on him. I doubt the Kings will offer him a contract, but given how hard and dedicated he played on the boards during the scrimmage, I also saw why they were intrigued by him.
#68 Joel Lowry - He didn't participate in camp. So an incomplete from that end. However, based off of previous viewings of him, he's one of those players who just has the puck come to him, but he's unable to bury it, as evidenced by his stagnating offensive numbers. From an organizational standpoint, I have a hard time seeing where he would fit in long term. I don't think he's a bad player, but he has had bad circumstances, especially with the injury, making the decision to keep him that much harder.
#76 Jonny Brodzinski - When combining individual skills with performance of the scrimmage, he had the best camp out of the prospects. He lost the puck a couple times when trying the puck protection drills, but he has great hands and a great shot. He scored the lone goal in the scrimmage on Friday. It wasn't a bullet, but it was perfectly placed. He also utilized his teammates well.
#80 Matthew Mistele - Incomplete, as he didn't participate in camp. However, the Memorial Cup winner shows a fair deal of skill and grit. On a weaker Plymouth team, he was one of the go-to players to catalyze the offense. On Oshawa, his role was reduced, but he was still effective.
#83 Matt Schmalz - Very big player, who skates okay for his size, though I wouldn't put skating as a strength. He has a good net presence, and a good attacking frame of mind. He wasn't shy about pushing the attack. I do think his shot is underwhelming for his size. I think it's better than Auger's was at the same age, but his skating is worse than Auger's. He's a project, but he has a big toolbox to put some tools in there.
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