one game, and then a 3 day break, if he misses the Fri game then it's a worry.
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one game, and then a 3 day break, if he misses the Fri game then it's a worry.
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I think they are both great, but i'd rather see Turcotte brought in as a Center to replace Lizotte instead of JAD.
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I think each of them have roles on this team going forward, but I think the Kings want to see Turcotte put a good chunk of the season in as a 1C in the AHL without getting injured. I'm betting that Arvy probably won't be resigned and we will need to make a trade to make room for both of them. But who would that be? Team is just so balanced right now. I could see swapping Laferriere for Turcotte, but Turcotte plays center. Would we rather have Turcotte in over Kopitar/Danault/PLD/Lizotte? I don't think anyone would say yes to this unless someone moves to wing.
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That's a fair point and it's purely based on what I've seen of both players. I've never seen any of Laferriere's college games, only 1 or 2 of his AHL games and of course all his NHL games. Not necessarily an apples to apples comparison.
That being said, Turcotte has shown more creativity both with carrying and distributing the puck, but again this is based on me just watching Turcotte play more. He's not done anything at the NHL level whereas Laferriere has.
The main reason I brought it up was that for all the good things Laferriere has done so far, he's kind of dropped off lately compared to preseason and early on. It's not a knock on him, but as someone else mentioned, he seems very tunnel visioned.
He basically went straight from college to the NHL (4 AHL games aside). While it happens, that's a pretty big move when you factor in quality of league plus frequency and amount of games played. I just think an adjustment period, playing quality minutes in ONT would help refine his game a little bit.
In addition to that though, is Turcotte himself. IMO, the only thing really holding him back from the NHL is the injury thing. He's added weight this season and it seems to be translating into a lot of positives for his game this year. Leads ONT in scoring as of right now.
He is a high draft pick and there are expectations with that. I don't know what LA's plans are for him, but obviously he was meant to be a big part of LA's future.
As I mentioned in my prevous post, I really can't think of a more ideal situation for him to slot into right now. Third line, with a player he's had chemistry with before, in a more offensive role without the 'burden' of being a top 6 player. The team itself is rolling and is doing so with skill, speed and puck persuit. All things that fit into his style of play.
So to answer your question, you're right, I don't know. It's just my opinion, but we'll never know unless he gets the chance. And I think it's an ideal situation for him to get that right now. I don't think him slotting in for Lizotte would be at all.
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Turcotte hasn’t done anything at the NHL level, but he hasn’t been given a chance either. He’s got 12 games with an average time on ice of 9:50. His two games last season averaged 6:59. His linemates were Kupari, Fagemo, and Lemieux last year and Brown, Kupari, Fagemo, and Grundstrom the year before. He had 9:00 playing with Moore and Arvidsson off the fourth line. Talk about setting a guy up to succeed.
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Unless you play together with a waste of space, linemates is not a good argument IMO.
Ice time, yes.
Ice time, yes.
I think the Kings want Turcotte to play a full HEALTHY year in Ontario.
I would call up Fagemo though - better option that Laffy or JAD at this point.
I would call up Fagemo though - better option that Laffy or JAD at this point.
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THN Archive: Star D-Man Doughty Has Been Laid-Back, Dependable Force For Kings — The Hockey News
As fate would have it, Doughty grew up a Kings fan, owning the classic “Chevy logo” white jersey with the No. 99 on the back, but “Doughty” on the nameplate. He also had a black Kelly Hrudey sweater and a Kings phone.
Before the draft combine, the Kings visited the Doughty household and told Drew if he could get his weight down, they would take him that summer. Doughty put in the work and shed 20 pounds. He went from eating three big meals plus appetizers every day to six smaller meals, altering his metabolism in the process.
THN Archive: Star D-Man Doughty Has Been Laid-Back, Dependable Force For Kings — The Hockey News
As fate would have it, Doughty grew up a Kings fan, owning the classic “Chevy logo” white jersey with the No. 99 on the back, but “Doughty” on the nameplate. He also had a black Kelly Hrudey sweater and a Kings phone.
Before the draft combine, the Kings visited the Doughty household and told Drew if he could get his weight down, they would take him that summer. Doughty put in the work and shed 20 pounds. He went from eating three big meals plus appetizers every day to six smaller meals, altering his metabolism in the process.
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“One time we were driving somewhere and he said something stupid,” Simmonds says. “So I threw his phone out the window. He kicked me out of the car and I wasn’t allowed back in for a week.”
“One time we were driving somewhere and he said something stupid,” Simmonds says. “So I threw his phone out the window. He kicked me out of the car and I wasn’t allowed back in for a week.”
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I think there's a future spot for Turcotte and Laferriere on this team. If you pressed me on who I'd rather have at this point, I'd say Laferriere. That guy has NHLer written all over him. The big concern for me with Turcotte is if he can stay healthy for a significant part of the season. I think he would be an effective 2nd line Center if the answer to that question is yes.
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Agree on everything except Fagemo being a better option than Laffy. I was watching him close last night and while he's adapting to the rigors of an NHL schedule, he belongs on this team.
I'd put Laffy and Fagemo's ice IQ about the same right now. The difference is Fagemo has been at this a lot longer and doesn't have much more mobility.
JAD is struggling right now and did a bit last year as well. He seemed to thrive more when the Kings were a more north-south team with a simple game, but now that the team is more skilled and is trying to carry the puck in and make things happen he's having trouble keeping up. Could just be that his style doesn't fit.
JAD is struggling right now and did a bit last year as well. He seemed to thrive more when the Kings were a more north-south team with a simple game, but now that the team is more skilled and is trying to carry the puck in and make things happen he's having trouble keeping up. Could just be that his style doesn't fit.
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about fiala...
i cant figure out what this guy is doing. looks to me like he just runs around real fast on the ice. when he scores it looks like a fortunate accident. his passes look like he's in a panic. maybe thats it- he's just scared s***less out there
i cant figure out what this guy is doing. looks to me like he just runs around real fast on the ice. when he scores it looks like a fortunate accident. his passes look like he's in a panic. maybe thats it- he's just scared s***less out there
Remember with PLD, he is a playoff type player.
Forgot which teams he was with, but analysts like Mike Rupp and co this summer said it - when he played Toronto and Lightning in the playoffs the past few years, he bullied them,
Forgot which teams he was with, but analysts like Mike Rupp and co this summer said it - when he played Toronto and Lightning in the playoffs the past few years, he bullied them,
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Yeah he NEEDS to be physically challenged. Poke the bear.
When it turns into a grind instead of a track meet, I have faith.
I believe this is why the Kings traded Vilardi. They wanted someone nasty in the playoffs.
The Oilers bullied us for two straight years including their star players. Kings wanted someone to push back and not just Brendan Lemieux (he was effective in the playoffs two seasons ago) or Zack McEwen in the one game he played, made one bad pass BUT did challenge Kane after the Doughty hit and chased Nurse around.
I don't think he has regained his pre-injury speed. His body can't do what his mind wants so he ends up putting himself in bad situations.
Fiala is one of the guys that click with nobody because he is not really playing hockey.
He just runs around without any plan, dangles here and there but nothing special.
Because of that he is unpredictable for teammates and opponents at the same time but also
incredible useless because he is constantly out of position
His turnovers are a result of being trapped by opponents he randomly runs into.
Fiala also takes alot of o zone penaltys. I hate that. So destructive to flow and momentum. But obviously talented.
This team has got some enigmas playing for it.
This team has got some enigmas playing for it.
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Incoming Jinx post, but the team is performing EXTREMELY well right now:
1. They are currently leading the league in expected goals for%
2. 2nd in the league in score adjusted Corsi and Fenwick
3. Their PDO isn't super high at just 101
4. They are first in Moneypuck's stat power rankings
5. They are still 2nd in GF/G and 5th in GA/G
and we're talking about all of this while not having a single player in the top 30 of point scoring. The highest we have is Adrian Kempe with 18 points in 17 games.
The depth of this team is turning out to be insane. I joked over the summer about Rob Blake's plan magically working out, but it seems for right now this is what is literally happening. The Dubois trade may end up being a total disaster, but right now that along with Talbot getting comfortable and the team dominating in possession has turned out consistent results.
The best thing those moves did is that we finally have a line-up that makes sense to look at on paper. And I think the players are starting to feel that consistency. Not to mention that spending a lot of dumb money finally gave Koala an excuse to not ride our vets, and it is working on keeping them looking good.
As of right now, we are contenders, and that is still with Dubois looking like a headless chicken and Fiala only now starting to really heat up.
1. They are currently leading the league in expected goals for%
2. 2nd in the league in score adjusted Corsi and Fenwick
3. Their PDO isn't super high at just 101
4. They are first in Moneypuck's stat power rankings
5. They are still 2nd in GF/G and 5th in GA/G
and we're talking about all of this while not having a single player in the top 30 of point scoring. The highest we have is Adrian Kempe with 18 points in 17 games.
The depth of this team is turning out to be insane. I joked over the summer about Rob Blake's plan magically working out, but it seems for right now this is what is literally happening. The Dubois trade may end up being a total disaster, but right now that along with Talbot getting comfortable and the team dominating in possession has turned out consistent results.
The best thing those moves did is that we finally have a line-up that makes sense to look at on paper. And I think the players are starting to feel that consistency. Not to mention that spending a lot of dumb money finally gave Koala an excuse to not ride our vets, and it is working on keeping them looking good.
As of right now, we are contenders, and that is still with Dubois looking like a headless chicken and Fiala only now starting to really heat up.
We could be championship quality if everybody continues to buy in and IF goaltending holds up. No matter what, it always comes down to goaltending.
