Speculation: Kyper on Knies value that he’s hearing

[Girthybowlofchili]

Here’s my thoughts on it

What about something like this

Dobson
Zharovsky
1st

Or

Harley
Bourque
1st

For

Knies
Robertson

I wouldn’t trade Dobson or Harley straight up for Knies. That’s crazy talk.

 

[Leafs87]

Likely bs unless we’re talking like a Doughty age too pair guy

 

[Frank Drebin]

By setting an incredibly high price they are actually dissuading the notion rather than being motivated to move him .

wouldn't it just be easier to say Knies isn't going anywhere?

 

[AcerComputer]

Hutson + Hage + 1st

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

Hutson + Hage + 1st

...is Matthews coming with him??...

 

[sd1976]

I wouldn’t trade Dobson or Harley straight up for Knies. That’s crazy talk.

Good for you, but that doesn’t mean that GMs wouldn’t. Both teams have dmen ranked higher than those two. So there is some redundancy where it might make sense.

As an example, does this also allow Dallas to sign Robertson with about 7 million in cap savings?

Lots of things to consider.

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

wouldn't it just be easier to say Knies isn't going anywhere?

They aren’t saying anything. Kyper is . Chayka gushed over him .

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

Good for you, but that doesn’t mean that GMs wouldn’t. Both teams have dmen ranked higher than those two. So there is some redundancy where it might make sense.

As an example, does this also allow Dallas to sign Robertson with about 7 million in cap savings?

Lots of things to consider.

Harley is a horse but he’s being wasted playing second fiddle to Heiskanen . I’d love him in Toronto but Knies ain’t it

 

[Ryuji Yamazaki]

Kypreos said today he’s hearing that the offers for Knies are centered around the following:

Top pairing dman
1st Rounder
Another player/prospect

Any idea what teams could match that?

On what planet is a 2nd line winger worth a top pairing dman?

 

[Nothingbutglass]

I'm wondering what is wrong with Knies. Should be foundational piece, but new GM still has him on block.

 

[sd1976]

On what planet is a 2nd line winger worth a top pairing dman?

We’re talking about Knies. Not some second line winger.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

They aren’t saying anything. Kyper is . Chayka gushed over him .

I don't tust any GM to tell the truth, there's a good chance Kyper is just the puppet being used to get the desired return out there

 

[CDJ]

Knies has gone from underrated to overrated

 

[sd1976]

I'm wondering what is wrong with Knies. Should be foundational piece, but new GM still has him on block.

Could just be a scenario of we know he’s valuable, let’s see if we can get someone to pay through the nose for him.

 

[CDJ]

NJ in Nemec.

maybe

Nemec + Mercer + 12th overall

he has top pair potential but I certainly wouldn’t call him a top pairing defenseman yet

I think this is a solid offer though

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

On what planet is a 2nd line winger worth a top pairing dman?

Oh if only Drouin ever became a 2nd line winger Sergachev would have been worth it

 

[rumrokh]

Good for you, but that doesn’t mean that GMs wouldn’t.

I've never understood this line of argumentation in a forum for fans to fantasize about rumors and theoretical trades.

"I don't think that's a good trade."
"Who cares if you don't, a GM might."

Dude, you're not talking to a GM. You're not participating in an exercise to make other fans choke down pretend deals that aren't interesting, fun, or fair to them.
Certainly you've seen proposed trades here that seem terrible to you. Were you at all won over by the suggestion that a GM might still make that trade?

 

[EveryDay]

Dobson sucks

Dobson would be the best defenceman the Leafs had in the last 30 years but yeah he suck...

 

[Soundgarden]

Roman Josi, 1st we receive from trading Ryan O'Reilly and a random player is my offer from Nashville.

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

he has top pair potential but I certainly wouldn’t call him a top pairing defenseman yet

I think this is a solid offer though

Nemec isn’t great . This would be a poor return imo . Mercer is incredibly vanilla

 

[sd1976]

Knies has gone from underrated to overrated

Nah, he’s being correctly rated. There are less than a handful of players in the NHL who do the things he does on a nightly basis. Skill, speed, grittiness, size. Plays the PK, top PP. He’s a rare combination. And he’s only 23 and signed for 5 years at a steal of a deal.

 

[TheBeard]

Dobson would be the best defenceman the Leafs had in the last 30 years but yeah he suck...

Beating out Jake Gardiner isn't that big a deal.

 

[Nothingbutglass]

Nah, he’s being correctly rated. There are less than a handful of players in the NHL who do the things he does on a nightly basis. Skill, speed, grittiness, size. Plays the PK, top PP. He’s a rare combination. And he’s only 23 and signed for 5 years at a steal of a deal.

seems injury prone

 

[glenbuis2]

They're not getting Z if we are addiing a Top Paiing D

can’t trade matheson for 3 years

 

[Frank Drebin]

Beating out Jake Gardiner isn't that big a deal.

I mean that statement also applies to the current version of the Sharks too.