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I’m an Isles fan but I see him getting no more than a second round pick. I also think he’ll be a consolation prize for those teams that lose out on acquiring better TDL players like Nelson or Miller.

As for Palmieri, he had a monster last 30 games of his prior season but aside from that he’s been at a less than 20 goals per season pace for the past 4 years with really bad plus minus stats. He’s also making $5 million so it will require some retention for a trade to happen.

My worst nightmare is that Lou holds onto him and re-signs him. I think for the short term he can still be a good addition for a playoff team but he’s about to turn 34 years old and his next contract may be an albatross.
 
Given how much he likes the New York area I suspect he blocks off all of Canada and most west coast contenders. I'd guess he leaves FLA, VGK, CAR, WAS, TB, NYR, BOS and COL as his most realistic destinations, but would prefer NYR or NJ over anyone due to their proximity (not that the Rangers are likely to be buyers). The question is, would any one of those clubs spend futures on a middle six winger?
 
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VeteranPresence said:
Given how much he likes the New York area I suspect he blocks off all of Canada and most west coast contenders. I'd guess he leaves FLA, VGK, CAR, WAS, TB, NYR, BOS and COL as his most realistic destinations, but would prefer NYR over anyone due to their proximity (not that the Rangers are likely to be buyers). The question is, would any one of those clubs spend futures on a middle six winger?
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why would you not just include NJ in this lol
 
VeteranPresence said:
Given how much he likes the New York area I suspect he blocks off all of Canada and most west coast contenders. I'd guess he leaves FLA, VGK, CAR, WAS, TB, NYR, BOS and COL as his most realistic destinations, but would prefer NYR or NJ over anyone due to their proximity (not that the Rangers are likely to be buyers). The question is, would any one of those clubs spend futures on a middle six winger?
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Why would he block west coast contenders? It's a three month stint and a chance to win a Cup. He definitely blocked rebuilding teams when he submitted his NTC list (which happens around July 1, I think), maybe a few teams in Canada.
 
seabass45 said:
Why would he block west coast contenders? It's a three month stint and a chance to win a Cup. He definitely blocked rebuilding teams when he submitted his NTC list (which happens around July 1, I think), maybe a few teams in Canada.
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Location would be the only guess. He probably wants to play somewhere close to home. NJ would be #1 on his list if we had to guess.
 
seabass45 said:
Why would he block west coast contenders? It's a three month stint and a chance to win a Cup. He definitely blocked rebuilding teams when he submitted his NTC list (which happens around July 1, I think), maybe a few teams in Canada.
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Depends on the player. Some guys are wired like Mark Recchi to compete for as many Cups as you can and other guys don't want to uproot their families if it's only for a couple months. On a different thread, we were talking about Teemu Selanne circa 2003. He apparently used his no trade to block a couple deals because he didn't want to be a rental.
 
Brodeur said:
Depends on the player. Some guys are wired like Mark Recchi to compete for as many Cups as you can and other guys don't want to uproot their families if it's only for a couple months. On a different thread, we were talking about Teemu Selanne circa 2003. He apparently used his no trade to block a couple deals because he didn't want to be a rental.
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Would guess Palmieri doesn't mind. He ended up with NYI because Lou paid a first to get him and he didn't exactly take a discount to stick around.

Also, did Selanne have a full NTC or limited? Palmieri's contract has had a limited NTC for the last two years and it's basically the standard 16 team NTC, seems more likely that players with that protection usually block trades with the usual suspects.
 
seabass45 said:
Would guess Palmieri doesn't mind. He ended up with NYI because Lou paid a first to get him and he didn't exactly take a discount to stick around.

Also, did Selanne have a full NTC or limited? Palmieri's contract has had a limited NTC for the last two years and it's basically the standard 16 team NTC, seems more likely that players with that protection usually block trades with the usual suspects.
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I think Lou had an inkling that Palmieri would be interested to extend since he was from the area so maybe it was a calculated risk on his part that it wasn't just a rental. Travis Zajac was included too although it's debatable how much Zajac would have been worth on his own. Reminds me a little bit of the Blues getting a 1st for Vladimir Tarasenko and Niko Mikkola. Vaguely recall Blues GM Doug Armstrong saying he could have dealt them separately for lower picks but preferred to get one higher pick.

Couldn't find any definitive info on Selanne's NTC. Although reading an article about when he signed in 2002 and I forgot that he hit UFA and took a discount to stay in San Jose. The article said he had a better multiyear offer from an East Coast team (probably Boston who just lost Bill Guerin) but Selanne wanted to remain on the West Coast.
 
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