Confirmed with Link: Kyle Dubas Not Returning

[The Masters]

 

[al secord]

Very nervous to see where we go from here. I don't have a great feeling.

 

[JSn0w93]

Tulsky, Pridham, Darche

I'd be ok with Treliving if going with someone with a lot of experience.

I will say there's a chance we look back at this as a not so great moment in Leafs history.

 

[rocketman588]

meh, it is what it is

MLSE really f***ed this up with needing a new GM during the biggest off-season this franchise has had in decades. I'm concerned how this impacts the Matthews extension

Dubas f***ed up by letting Matthews have that contract and trade protection more then anything.

Not letting his failure handcuffs you into extending him is the correct move

 

[Kaladin]

Well, all the idiots got what they wanted. Now y'all can be reminded of how bad the average GM is and the shit management we had before Dubas

Or you know, shock and horror someone comes in and is able to actually get past the 1st round like 8 other GM's do every year lol. Bar is not high here folks.

 

[CincoHolio]

My biggest takeaway from this is no more Keefe thank god.

 

[aingefan]

The only thing I can say of Treliving is he shouldn't do trades with Florida Panthers that's all

Or sign their ex-payers.

 

[justashadowof]

This is totally going to turn into an Anthoupoulos 2.0 lol he will take a year or two away take over another team and absolutely kill it. Let's pray we don't revert to a dinosaur.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with the Blue Jays' current GM.

 

[Twine Tickler]

Darren Dreger is so out of touch. His analytic contributions are no better than the common person. He has no inside information at all. His speculation on Brad Treiliving is so f***ing stupid. I am pretty confident Brad can't even talk to teams until after July 1st. So the timeline doesn't even work out when you consider some of the business that we need done has to get done before then with NMC, and NTC kicking in on that day.

f***ing idiot

 

[leafsfan5]

Are we even allowed to court him if the playoffs are still going and the Canes are in it still? That's my only concern... Not much time to waste

I think the play might be Pridham interim GM and then onboard Tulsky afterwards

The problem is how this impacts the AM34 negotiation

 

[al secord]

Tulsky, Pridham, Darche

I'd be ok with Treliving if going with someone with a lot of experience.

Why the hell would anyone be ok with Treliving?

 

[The Masters]

Actually...There was more to that.

Players and Treliving wanted Sutter gone, he's a coach that wears out his welcome very quickly. The owners said no, and said mutually parted ways. So it was a hot mess a lot of people were annoyed at that. When the player exit interview happens after they announced a replacement, they fired Sutter...it was a hot mess because of the ownership meddling actually. Should check out the flames board and insiders on that

Let a very bitter taste for a lot people.

Lol ... answer me this .. Is Treliving employed by Calgary right now? He got fired because he was an average GM who spinned his wheels for years there hiring and firing 5 coaches. The CAL board wanted him gone 3 years ago

 

[Trapper]

Well, the President is still in place and so are all the lieutenants. There’s a break in the chain of command but the team isn’t without continuity.

This part still worries me.

 

[Leaf Rocket]

My biggest takeaway from this is no more Keefe thank god.

Keefe was gone regardless if Dubas was back or not.

 

[robertmac43]

When do people think we hear about a replacement? If it's Tulsky it could be weeks before we hear anything.

 

[Malachi Crunch]

That's exactly it: culture. They pinpointed the issue.

 

[Stephen]

Maybe they decided they couldn’t be held hostage to Dubas’ display.

 

[Stand Witness]

Darren Dreger is so out of touch. His analytic contributions are no better than the common person. He has no inside information at all. His speculation on Brad Treiliving is so f***ing stupid. I am pretty confident Brad can't even talk to teams until after July 1st. So the timeline doesn't even work out when you consider some of the business that we need done has to get done before then with NMC, and NTC kicking in on that day.

f***ing idiot

Breath and relax lol

 

[notbias]

Tulsky, Pridham, Darche

I'd be ok with Treliving if going with someone with a lot of experience.
I will say there's a chance we look back at this as a not s great moment.

Why do people want him to do anything with the Leafs?

 

[Leaf Rocket]

Lol ... answer me this .. Is Treliving employed by Calgary right now? He got fired because he was an average GM who spinned his wheels for years there hiring and firing 5 coaches. The CAL board wanted him gone 3 years ago

Maybe you should check out their boards and in general the feelings about him that's all I'll say. If you think that was the majority.

 

[sxvnert]

THANK GOD..change is finally coming.

ps. No Treliving

 

[HofT]

Is he still around? Or os he pretty much like Biden nowadays? Lights are on, but noone is home?

That sums up the Leafs perfectly.

 

[rocketman588]

Im sure they gave him an ultimatum
The board needed someone to go and the obvious choice was keefe but i feel dubas wouldn’t do that
Also one of marner or nylander have to go and im sure he wouldn’t do that

They gave him a choice and he quit

If that's the case that shows he's not an NHL gm

Make the tough decisions you need to make

 

[93LEAFS]

It'll be interesting if they handle this via internal promotion - ie say Pridham to GM, Spezza shifts from advisor to AGM or something that involves an external search.

If they look outside the current front office, the candidate would likely have to feel comfortable jumping into an org that has built up different departments like the medical science group and analytics department. MLSE didn't spend money on that for it to go to waste.

If that ends up being the case, Tampas, Seattle's or Avs AGMs may prove intriguing since their front offices have similar setups. I'd add the Canes in too, but they aren't likely giving up anyone until the playoffs are over.

If we are still in on Analytics, spend whatever you have to, to bring in an actual stats guy like Tulsky (Harvard Physics/Chemist, UC Berkley chemistry PHD), and not a self-proclaimed one with a sports managment degree from Brock

 

[Cypruss]

Disappointing. I trusted him to partially dismantle and build back up. I hope they don't hire some dip shit.

They can and they will!

I do think a fresh start was needed, but boy, what a monumental task this summer!