LeBrun: " Kyle Dubas is listening to everyone on his roster outside of his "core guys" "

[FriendlyGhost92]

I still dont get the trade for Karlsson either.. imho

I don't get much of what PIT's goal is at all. If you want to let Crosby/Malkin retire as Pens, I get that, but why the hell are you still buying for a team whose time has passed?

If they sell finally sell this year, that puts them on the 17-18 season of the Red Wings' timeline. Let me tell ya, the 5 years following 17-18 were pretty grim.

 

[RRhoads]

I don't get much of what PIT's goal is at all. If you want to let Crosby/Malkin retire as Pens, I get that, but why the hell are you still buying for a team whose time has passed?

As Wings fans we should see the writing on that wall. It's what the Wings did before the streak was broken. Patchwork that only leads to a longer rebuild.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

As Wings fans we should see the writing on that wall. It's what the Wings did before the streak was broken. Patchwork that only leads to a longer rebuild.

I think the one difference here might be that Detroit was done trading picks well before they started selling players in 2017-2018... Problem is their drafting was rancid in the 2015/2016/2017.

BUT, if we're comparing PIT this year to the 2017-2018 Red Wings, I don't see anything close to a U23 player like Larkin anywhere in that organization. Or even Mantha/Bertuzzi/Hronek.

 

[Lemieuxs]

If Im the Blackhawks, Id toss a 2nd Dubas’ way for Pettersson. I like his game.

If the Pens do decide to trade away Pettersson at 27 years of age, it is going to cost more than a second. He may be the Pens best defensmen on a team with Letang and EK.

 

[RRhoads]

I think the one difference here might be that Detroit was done trading picks well before they started selling players in 2017-2018... Problem is their drafting was rancid in the 2015/2016/2017.

BUT, if we're comparing PIT this year to the 2017-2018 Red Wings, I don't see anything close to a U23 player like Larkin anywhere in that organization. Or even Mantha/Bertuzzi/Hronek.

Thinking more about the deals and contracts that lead up to the long rebuild. Waited a long time before started selling. When Lidstrom retired is when the rebuild should have started, imo.

 

[Peasy]

Would they actually move Guentzel?

Would be jokes to see Dubas spend a 1st in the summer for Karlsson just to tear everything down a few months later.

 

[Lemieuxs]

Core 4 2.0??

Crosby Malkin Letang Karlsson

Nope, just Crosby, Malkin and Letang. EK has done nothing in a Pens uniform.

 

[jd22]

I would want a 1st tbh. Year doesn't matter imo, pens should be looking to collect as many as possible for the next 3-4 years.

2025 unprotected 1st and 3rd for Pettersson?

Genuine question: would the Pens have any interest in Boeser?

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

If Im the Blackhawks, Id toss a 2nd Dubas’ way for Pettersson. I like his game.

No chance Petts is moved for only a 2nd

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Nope, just Crosby, Malkin and Letang. EK has done nothing in a Pens uniform.

Who woulda thunk it?!

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

Would they actually move Guentzel?

Would be jokes to see Dubas spend a 1st in the summer for Karlsson just to tear everything down a few months later.

All depends on contract negotiation and his demands, yes there is a very good chance he is moved rather than lose him July 1st for absolutely nothing

 

[Stickpucker]

Crosby to Carolina you still owe us for Ron Francis.

 

[Leafs87]

This would have been a great strategy before he traded his 1st round pick

 

[Suntouchable13]

Jesus Christ, both Toronto and Pittsburgh are ran by absolute mooks. Why did Dubas even take this job? What a dummy. What a mess.

 

[Beukeboom Fan]

Rust has a full NMC. Doubt he is moved.

When Brian Rust can get a full NMC - that's a sign that GM's don't value them high enough and needlessly limit their flexibility going forward..

 

[BLNY]

Malkin to Dallas, Letang to Montreal, Karlsson to Edmonton

NMC, NMC - and Habs say no thank you, NMC.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Nope, just Crosby, Malkin and Letang. EK has done nothing in a Pens uniform.

You are definitely saying this out of pure emotion and spite.

I'm sorry, but you need to read this:

"Pittsburgh sent a 2024 first-round pick, forward Mikael Granlund and defenceman Jan Rutta to San Jose and goaltender Casey DeSmith, defenceman Jeff Petry, a 2025 second-round pick and prospect Nathan Legare to Montreal as part of the deal for the three-time Norris Trophy winner."

A lot of assets out the door for EK. There is no way Dubas is going to add him to the Garage Sale.

 

[Robtom18]

My list I assume..

Reilly Smith - 3rd round pick?
Ned - 3rd or 4th?
Petttersson - two 2nds?
Jake - 1st, prospect, roster dump
Lars Eller - 3rd?
Rakell - Bad cap swap?
Jeff Carter - Absolutely nothing, but maybe goes to a contender with 50% and a third team eating cap for like a 5th and a 7th ala Nick Bonino last year.
Ruhwedel - 6th or 7th.

Not sure they are worth much to other teams.

 

[Skolman]

Malkin to Dallas, Letang to Montreal, Karlsson to Edmonton

No thanks from Edmonton.

We already have Bouchard who does the heavy lifting offensively from the backend

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

Karlsson for Gallagher it's time

 

[OVO16]

They're roster is so "meh" outside the core players. Like no actually intrigues me at all outside of Jake Guentzel

 

[Henkka]

Ruhwedel for 7th and that's it.

 

[MilkofthePoppy]

Fraudway Sports Group...

 

[SomeDude]

You are definitely saying this out of pure emotion and spite.

I'm sorry, but you need to read this:

"Pittsburgh sent a 2024 first-round pick, forward Mikael Granlund and defenceman Jan Rutta to San Jose and goaltender Casey DeSmith, defenceman Jeff Petry, a 2025 second-round pick and prospect Nathan Legare to Montreal as part of the deal for the three-time Norris Trophy winner."

A lot of assets out the door for EK. There is no way Dubas is going to add him to the Garage Sale.

He got rid of negative value contracts by paying picks and essentially got Karlsson for free or close to it.

It was worth the gamble at the cost but he has not worked here. Coaching hasn’t helped, but Mike Sullivan is czar and will never get fired so might as well retain and get another sucker to take on Karlsson.

It won’t happen because it would be admitting he made a mistake, but it would be best for the organization.

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Lars Eller - another year after his deal. Honestly has Been better than expected this season.
3rd round pick and a 4th round pick maybe.

Ned - guy would bolster up a team to make a tandem surprisingly goaltending is not our problem this year
3rd round pick

Rielly Smith - no retention extra year has struggled with the Penguins but had multiple great seasons with Vegas.
2nd or 3rd

Petterson - I don't think we trade him our LD would look horrendous if we do I expect a Hanafin return.

Rakell - player for player swap

Guentzel - see Lindholm / Giroux returns and that is what is expected.

Jeff Carter - bag of pucks.