If you watch Lowry in his own zone you realize why Maurice likes him at 3 C. He's really good at smothering the other team. I think the offense will be okay for the Jets this season. Their big problem has been defensively.
Player Discussion: Kyle Connor
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If you watch Lowry in his own zone you realize why Maurice likes him at 3 C. He's really good at smothering the other team. I think the offense will be okay for the Jets this season. Their big problem has been defensively.
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they saw lots of Connor and Roslo last season. Why do they need to do it now? They know what they are together.
Connor is being tried out in the role he is likely to be used in at the start of the season. Roslovic on the other hand is an extreme longshot to make the team.
If they start playing Connor with Roslovic it likely means they are gonna send him back to the Moose.
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Nah, the thinking is he's not good enough for our top 6 because he honestly is the 7th best forward right now. Perreault is a better player.
I don't necessarily agree with it because I think, and I think most of us think this, perreault should be put on the third line not because Connor is better, but actually because Perreault is better and has shown he can drive a line himself, which Connor can't at the moment.
Little and Wheeler will drive the play themselves, and Connor would be a great finisher on that line.
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He was with Petan and someone else who is skilled last game was he not? I honestly don't remember. In his first game he had fairly competent NHL Dmen at least. He knows what he's doing out there and he knows where to be but he's just not strong enough. Kind of reminds me of Chef at that age.
Good point...
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... is a pretty good bottom 7. Good mix of size, speed and talent.
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Probably because that third line would get shafted in the defensive zone. Say what you want about Lowry offensively, he's far better than Roslo in the defensive zone atm, which is the reason he's still 3C.
he is better offensively too. roslovic needs a little more time to work on his game. no big deal still like 20. no rush.
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I agree with everything you said here, let Connor ride the second line and bump MP85 down to the third to create 3 skilled scoring lines.
Plus MP is better defensively which could help that line shut others down.
Having two really good defensive players like MP and Lowry on L3 could free up putting Roslo on the RW. That's a lot of skill in the top 9.
I know the Jets are trying to develop him as a center but they did just sign Little for 6 more years...
Connor will start the season with Lowry and Armia but will move into MP's spot when he gets injured.
Connor Little Ehlers could be a great line.
Connor Little Ehlers could be a great line.
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It's how they finish the season that's most important. I'd rather have Connor force his way up there than force his way down the lineup
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I don't know about a no brainer, but I could see Perrault fitting in well with Lowry and Armia as he has a bit more sandpaper to his game than Connor.
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I'd love to see Connor on our top line with Scheifele and Wheeler down the road.
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Connor has shown he's a long way from the 2nd line. I'm not sure what you guys are seeing. Shelter him on a 3rd line.
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It's been shown that QoT > QoC for sheltering players. I believe most people understand that right now Perreault is the better player. The idea is to spread out the talent on lines 1-3 and also that play styles of certain players match better. I don't think Connor is a fit with Lowry/Armia, and Perreault would do a better job driving the offense on the third than Connor (also Perreault can play a grind/cycle style of game, which is not Connor's forte ATM). I also understand and accept the idea of having Connor start on the third and eventually moving up to the second... which will be sooner than later considering Perreault's injury history.
I think there's something that often gets overlooked - increased defensive responsibility. I don't think Connor is bad at it but time and improvement would be a good thing. Certainly I see the appeal of him playing on our offensive lines in the top six but they tend to have greater challenges to face as well at times and he's not there yet. Third line is a good place to start, earn some defensive chops and force your way into the top 6. That top six is pretty darn talented and I expect that he'll have to follow Ehlers trajectory to an extent - he'll get there when he's ready for both ends of the ice at that level.
And it's not like Perreault is a slouch playing in the top 6. Offensively I'd like to see Connor playing on the second line due to his speed and release but he'll get there. I can wait a year. Or part of a year if he can show he belongs sooner.
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It's been shown that a player Corsi results are impacted more by QoT than QoC. I'm not sure either of those has anything to do with "sheltering"
How about 5 years of Thorburns and Pelusos and Jokinens and Miettenens on the 2nd line
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Fair enough. Don't think its much of a leap to infer that if a player has better Corsi results with >QoT than >QoC that it would make it easier on them than the reverse... obviously depends on the situation, but in your opinion do you believe Connor would have a more difficult time playing against harder competition with Little/Ehlers or against weaker competition with Lowry/Armia.
Or based on how Mo likes to run the Lowry line, similar competition...
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But 2nd line players play more minutes and more often against the other teams top 4. The idea is to ease him into the role.
The lines will shuffle. They always do. If things go well he'll force his way up to the second line after Christmas. If he's not ready for that he can continue in his sheltered role.
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If Lowry/Connor isn't a good fit like a lot of people are predicting, it will show, and Maurice will adjust accordingly.
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yeah mo will adjust accordingly by sending him to the minors. so he better figure it out with lowry and armia because there is no one even close to replacing them on the 3rd line. figure it out play hard play smart or go join roslovic on the moose.
He's ready but not really ready, but the team is pretty much set with contracts. He'll start in the AHL. The TV guy had it right, the players in MN were mostly fighting for call-up spots when the big team has injuries. That one game was enough to see who isn't on the call up list.
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