Rumor: Kulak or Soucy : Oilers kicking tires

[Spearmint Rhino]

Kulak’s highlight reel goal yesterday deserves at least a 1st or top prospect

I’d gladly take a 2nd for him and not look back

 

[Tobias Kahun]

I don't think so. No point in us moving Soucy for a return like that. He is signed for next season at a good cap hit and is likely to return a better return at that time.

Plus with how insane the market for D is right now, I can easily see Soucy get a Chiarot type return. Keep in mind that he is signed for another year, 3 years younger than Chiarot and has been playing a top-4 D role on the Kraken without any problem.

Is it normal for top 4 D to play the 6th most minutes for the defense?

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

Is it normal for top 4 D to play the 6th most minutes for the defense?

When your coach is Hakstol. Yes.

 

[Homesick]

I don't think the Oilers fans will like the price for Soucy. He has done a good job in the top-4 and leads our team in +/-. Signed to a very friendly deal through next season.

Giordano just went for two 2nds with 50% retention

 

[Tobias Kahun]

When your coach is Hakstol. Yes.

So what you're saying is he hasn't been playing a top 4 role.

 

[BLNY]

Giordano just went for two 2nds with 50% retention

That, Hamonic, and Dermott; all escalate Kulak's value imo.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

So what you're saying is he hasn't been playing a top 4 role.

2 things:

1. We had Dunn, Larsson, Gio and Oleksiak ahead of Soucy. He was not going to get 'top-4' minutes ahead of them. But when any of them got injured, he was the one who got moved there.
2. Our coach is genuinely not very good. He overuses Lauzon who is no doubt a bottom-6 D instead of better options like Soucy. Or even Fleury.

With Gio gone, Soucy is going to be playing top-4 D minutes. Do what you want with this info.

 

[CAUFIELD]

kulak at 50% to oilers for a 2nd.

I’d like to resign him if we can’t get a 2nd.
Fast, responsible, got team guy. Still young.

 

[1989]

Why bother? Kulak isn't the fixer for the Oilers' problems if they're looking to succeed in the playoffs.

 

[57special]

2 things:

1. We had Dunn, Larsson, Gio and Oleksiak ahead of Soucy. He was not going to get 'top-4' minutes ahead of them. But when any of them got injured, he was the one who got moved there.
2. Our coach is genuinely not very good. He overuses Lauzon who is no doubt a bottom-6 D instead of better options like Soucy. Or even Fleury.

With Gio gone, Soucy is going to be playing top-4 D minutes. Do what you want with this info.

Same when he was with Minnesota, with the difference being that he had Suter, Brodin, Spurgeon, and Dumba ahead of him. He filled in fine in the top 4 when there was an injury. I would have no hesitation playing Soucy as a #4, but he is probably best suited to #5.

 

[Goal Caufield50]

Giordano just went for two 2nds with 50% retention

Cap hit is $3,375 not $900k, changes the price-downward

 

[Tetragrammaton]

I could see Kulak fetching a 2nd, ngl

That’s his value to a contender, late 2nd and everyone is happy.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Why bother? Kulak isn't the fixer for the Oilers' problems if they're looking to succeed in the playoffs.

I think that's the point. Holland doesn't seem to believe in the team. However, aside from Calgary and Vegas when they're healthy, who else is a threat ?

Edmonton might only have to face 1 of those teams and a beat up champion from the east.

 

[LTIR]

I think that's the point. Holland doesn't seem to believe in the team. However, aside from Calgary and Vegas when they're healthy, who else is a threat ?

Edmonton might only have to face 1 of those teams and a beat up champion from the east.

Umm Colorado?

 

[Junohockeyfan]

I would take a 3rd for Kulak. I don’t see a 2nd as reasonable.

 

[TFHockey]

Countdown to TradeCentre: Oilers 'kicking tires' on defencemen Soucy, Kulak - TSN.ca

What do you think Seattle gets for Carson Soucy?

Giordano (@50%) and Blackwell just landed them two 2nds and a 3rd.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Second round pick with a prospect?

 

[Jumptheshark]

Of all options this is one guy I like. He also has another year on his contract

 

[TFHockey]

Second round pick with a prospect?

I would have said a 2nd before today. Maybe a 3rd now?

 

[Ctrain2k]

Hakstol's deployment has to do a lot with why Soucy's TOI was limited. He has been paired for most of the season with our top D-men though. I think if you are buying Soucy, you are buying him as a top-4 D. Not for bottom-pairing minutes. Which is exactly why the Kraken would expect a return similar to that.

2nd is most certainly not enough for me to entertain moving out Soucy unless the + with the 2nd is a really good prospect. Like I said, we have no need to move Soucy this season.

He’s not a top 4 D on the worst team in the league, he’s not gonna be a top 4 D on a contender.

 

[NiagaraKraken]

He has term, so that’s worth an extra pick in itself this year

 

[TFHockey]

When your coach is Hakstol. Yes.

I screwed up and created a 2nd thread with this exact same topic. Can you merge them?

 

[Mrfenn92]

I would have said a 2nd before today. Maybe a 3rd now?

Extra year on his deal shouldn’t lower the return

 

[DucksUnited]

Oilers should go a cheaper option and tell Seattle to shove it. A first + B prospect for Soucy doesn’t make sense. Just go after Middleton from San Jose. He’s gonna cost less and He works on the Oilers third pairing

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

He’s not a top 4 D on the worst team in the league, he’s not gonna be a top 4 D on a contender.

Depth on D is one of our strengths so Soucy on the 3rd pairing actually makes sense.

But anyway, how we value him will be driven entirely by how valuable he is to us, which a top-4 D-man. If he plays on a 3rd pairing on a contending team, it really means little to us in regards to the return we want for him.