Machinehead
HFNYR MVP
In 1979.
In 1979.
This isn’t a serious comment, is it?
Your comparison of a second round pick to a sixth round pick isn’t the trump card you think it is.That's not the trump card you think it is. Kucherov is likely to be above PPG for the next 3-4 years, maybe more. He will still end up better than Hull even if he regresses a little at the end of his career.
The Wings also drafted Fedorov and Konstantinov that same yearLidstrom was a third rounder, right?
This isn’t a serious comment, is it?
Even just now, some of the top goalies:You almost need your own category of goalie draft steals.
Hasek, Roy, Lundqvist, Kiprusoff, Rinne was an 8th rounder, I mean even Brodeur was a late first and not the first goalie taken cause some team traded up to take Trevor Kidd instead.
Please tell us why. Is it because scouting didn’t exist in the 1980’s?You simply cannot compare drafting in the 70's and 80's to today's. Sorry. Getting a Kucherov type in 2011 at the end of the 2nd round is astonishing.
Please tell us why. Is it because scouting didn’t exist in the 1980’s?
will be? Exactly how old do you think he is?I feel Kucherov's peak will be better than Z/Dats/Fedorov, but it's debateable. Those Wings draft steals are unbeliveable. Good point!
Vladimir Konstantinov. #221I'm sure he's up there, but if you want to argue for all-time draft steals, the Red Wings alone had these examples of pretty good players drafted low.
Sergei Federov: Round 4, #74
Niklas Lidstrom: Round 3, #53
Pavel Datsyuk: Round 6, #171
Henrik Zetterberg: Round 7, #210
At the same age as Kucherov is now, Hull had scored at a 1.28 P/G rate, and a ridiculous 0.75 G/G.In 1979.
That's not the trump card you think it is. Kucherov is likely to be above PPG for the next 3-4 years, maybe more. He will still end up better than Hull even if he regresses a little at the end of his career.
Europeans were being scouted by NHL clubs in the early 1970’s.Reading an Athletic article now and Ken Holland mentioned that NHL teams generally didn't have multiple scouts patrolling Europe back then.
well, Hasek was 10th round #199But Kuch was a 2nd and Luc was a 9th. As far as draft steals go, which is what this thread is about, I think Luc - a HoFer in his own right - wins it.
That’s just not true at all. Not saying you didn’t read it anywhere, but it’s a mistake.And then there was a quirky rule about certain Europeans only being eligible to be taken in the first rounds of the draft. I believe that got removed for the 1992 Draft.
Hasek and Datsyuk also zetterberg he might be having better career numbers than those guys but they were much later picks which factors into how much of a steal a pick is/was
Brett Hull after 735 games: 915pts or 1.24 PPGKucherov is currently 13th of all-time, Hull 33rd. How is that not far ahead?
You also cherry picked by rounding up/down. Kucherov is 1.194 and likely to be better by year's end since he's scoring at more than a ppg clip. Hull is 1.096. Get real.
That’s just not true at all. Not saying you didn’t read it anywhere, but it’s a mistake.
“Everybody saw him a year before he got drafted and he went through the draft but the draft was only three rounds for (European) players like that,” Rockstrom said. “So, we saw him and he wasn’t one of the players picked in the top three rounds so the next year, he had made a lot of progress.”
An excellent choice.well, Hasek was 10th round #199
1.194 PPGKucherov is currently 13th of all-time, Hull 33rd. How is that not far ahead?
You also cherry picked by rounding up/down. Kucherov is 1.194 and likely to be better by year's end since he's scoring at more than a ppg clip. Hull is 1.096. Get real.