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Such a weird situation.Wasn't the Great one never drafted? That's a pretty good steal if you ask me. LOL
Such a weird situation.Wasn't the Great one never drafted? That's a pretty good steal if you ask me. LOL
Maybe because Kucherov has played half the games Hull did in his career? That may have something to do with it.Kucherov is currently 13th of all-time, Hull 33rd. How is that not far ahead?
You also cherry picked by rounding up/down. Kucherov is 1.194 and likely to be better by year's end since he's scoring at more than a ppg clip. Hull is 1.096. Get real.
Oilers have some doozies as well:I'm sure he's up there, but if you want to argue for all-time draft steals, the Red Wings alone had these examples of pretty good players drafted low.
Sergei Federov: Round 4, #74
Niklas Lidstrom: Round 3, #53
Pavel Datsyuk: Round 6, #171
Henrik Zetterberg: Round 7, #210
Kucherov's having a great career, but Fedorov was great at everything. He'd have to be high on any all around player list.I feel Kucherov's peak will be better than Z/Dats/Fedorov, but it's debateable. Those Wings draft steals are unbeliveable. Good point!
Detroit tried, imagine a draft year with Lidstrom, Fedorov, Bure, Konstantinov, Sillinger, Drake and Bougher.I think you could include Bure in the conversation at 113th overall/6th round, especially considering his draft circumstances. Every other team thought that he was ineligible to be drafted, due to a lack of games played, but the Canucks/Mike Penny did their due diligence and recognized that he actually did meet the threshold. When Vancouver drafted him, everyone else was blown away that he was even available.
The definition of a draft day "steal".
Lidstrom at 53rd is insane in retrospect. A 3rd round pick winning a single Norris would be seen as a nice steal, let alone 7.I'm sure he's up there, but if you want to argue for all-time draft steals, the Red Wings alone had these examples of pretty good players drafted low.
Sergei Federov: Round 4, #74
Niklas Lidstrom: Round 3, #53
Pavel Datsyuk: Round 6, #171
Henrik Zetterberg: Round 7, #210
This is probably your winner
Probably not even top 5 all time. I haven't gone and checked but I'd have Lidstrom, Hasek, Datsyuk and Bure higher without looking. Still a crazy good find for this era of heavily scouted drafts.
hes up there, but Kuch has already surpassed him.Luc Robitaille, 9th round pick, has entered the chat.
Luc Robitaille Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com
This isn’t a serious comment, is it?Exactly. Hull was drafted in 1984. Did teams even had scouting departments back then? Come on.
Lidstrom at 53rd is insane in retrospect. A 3rd round pick winning a single Norris would be seen as a massive steal, let alone 7.
My guess is lack of scouting in his draft year. He played 8 games in the KHL and had 2 assist. Now he did have 58 points in 41 games played in the Russian MHL (junior league). He didn’t play in the World Juniors until after he was drafted also.
Probably lack of exposure had him slip in the draft.
But Kuch was a 2nd and Luc was a 9th. As far as draft steals go, which is what this thread is about, I think Luc - a HoFer in his own right - wins it.hes up there, but Kuch has already surpassed him.
Lucky Luc never even had a Hart vote.
Getting a player of that ilk in the 2nd round is not unheard of at all.
Messier was a 3rd rounder.
Maybe because Kucherov has played half the games Hull did in his career? That may have something to do with it.