Fistfullofbeer
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Regarding Sale, looks like he has contributed points so far in the 2 playoffs game. He has 1G 3A so far. Rehkopf (same team) is 2G 2A. However, Sale is -4 and Rehkopf is 0.
I don't know enough to guess, but won't most of those guys be long gone when our pick rolls around.Who should we take from this group?
Catton
Iginla
Parekh
Silayev
Dickinson
I doubt any of the 3 D-men make it to us. I would happily take Catton but I doubt he makes it to us. That said, I have no issues taking Iginla if we drop to 12.Who should we take from this group?
Catton
Iginla
Parekh
Silayev
Dickinson
I don't know enough to guess, but won't most of those guys be long gone when our pick rolls around.
While I agree that in other aspects of roster building, Francis is conservative, I think your argument about him and the draft is rather extravagantly stacked against him. Before any argument can be put forward in his favour, you say we should eliminate all picks between the 2nd round and the 7th round on accountability grounds and then you include eliminating #20 Sale in the first round because he doesn't fit your argument. So his conservatism comes down to two picks: Beniers and Wright. Beniers was the unanimous choice for #2 pick. Probably every other GM in the league would have picked him in that spot. I personally would have thought Francis was crazy if he picked someone else. I would call his approach here not conservative but sane and rational. As for Wright, is he conservative or risky? Three other GMs passed on him, so with equally skewered logic, one could argue by the time we got around to choosing him, he was a risky pick, not a conservative one. In reality, I think you could better argue that once again Francis took the BPA. Again, is that conservative or just sound draft strategy? But to the larger point, if you have to eliminate all of his draft choices except for two players and claim nobody else counts, you really haven't provided a convincing argument about Francis' conservatism at the draft.
Who should we take from this group?
Catton
Iginla
Parekh
Silayev
Dickinson
BTW: ESPN's new mock draft.
NHL mock draft: Predictions for the first 32 picks in 2024
With the regular season hitting the final stretch, here's our projection of the first round of the 2024 draft. Who makes the top 3 after Macklin Celebrini on June 28?www.espn.co.uk
I suspect most of us are paywalled.
1 - SJS - Celebrini
2 - CHI - Levshunov
3 - ANA - Lindstrom
4 - CBJ - Eiserman
5 - ARZ - Demidov
6 - OTT - Dickinson
7 - MTL - Catton
8 - CGY - Silayev
9 - BUF - Parekh
10 - SEA - Buium
11 - SJS (Pit) - Iginla
12 - NJ - Yakemchuk
To be honest, I would be happy with any of those. Assuming we pick in the 10-12 range, I would not mind picking Yakemchuk if he is still available. I know the kid is one of the older prospects for this draft year but he has offensive skill, committed to defense and can play with a mean streak. Iginla is a power-forward type who is relatively safe to project as a 2nd line power forward. Eiserman has one of the highest offensive ceilings in the game. Might be a "risky" pick but it would be a home run swing.Thank you.
I would be very happy if the Kraken landed Zeev Buium. I think he's brilliant.
This list looks somewhat plausible except I would guess Eiserman ends up closer to #14 than #4, a lot of red flags there. And I think teams will be very high on Yakemchuk. Incredibly skilled 6'3 RD, Pronman thinks he'll go top 5 and I agree with him. He's another one I'd be very happy if the Kraken get, but at 6'3 I'd guess he'll go sooner than our pick.
To be honest, I would be happy with any of those. Assuming we pick in the 10-12 range, I would not mind picking Yakemchuk if he is still available. I know the kid is one of the older prospects for this draft year but he has offensive skill, committed to defense and can play with a mean streak.
Iginla is a power-forward type who is relatively safe to project as a 2nd line power forward.
Eiserman has one of the highest offensive ceilings in the game. Might be a "risky" pick but it would be a home run swing.
Yeah. That is definitely a big red flag. And something Francis is unlikely to look past.A couple things - I didn't enjoy watching him, he really doesn't do anything, or at least nothing well, except for that few times a game when he can rip the puck. That and his interview recently he seemed to think he was good at defense, which makes him look like he lacks self-awareness. That's a big red flag for me.
Yeah. That is definitely a big red flag. And something Francis is unlikely to look past.
I just feel like Iginla and Yakemchuk both would be pretty solid fits. I guess calling Iginla a PF is kind of a stretch. But I do like that he will go to the dirty areas and make plays and score goals from there.
I don't know if either/both fall to where we draft but if they do, I prefer Yakemchuk. I rate him slightly higher than Iginla plus bonus points because he is a D-man.
Thank you.
I would be very happy if the Kraken landed Zeev Buium. I think he's brilliant.
This list looks somewhat plausible except I would guess Eiserman ends up closer to #14 than #4, a lot of red flags there. And I think teams will be very high on Yakemchuk. Incredibly skilled 6'3 RD, Pronman thinks he'll go top 5 and I agree with him. He's another one I'd be very happy if the Kraken get, but at 6'3 I'd guess he'll go sooner than our pick.
Yakemchuk is definitely not ranked as high in most of the current rankings.Just to show the diversity of the various rankings, DraftProspectsHockey has Yak at 16 and Eiserman at 4.
But as I was saying the other day, if you want to know how teams will probably rank them, ask Corey Pronman or Bob Mckenzie.
Yakemchuck seems like a huge pain in the ass for other teams, and from his prospect board thread I wonder how hated he is among other East division fanbases. Is he like Corey Perry on D?
I think I've literally read Ducks fans call him that.
The good news--I guess it's good news--is that we no longer have that easy a schedule the rest of the way: three bad teams--Anaheim, Phoenix and San Jose-- but the other five opponents are doing much better than we are. Maybe we can land at the nine or ten pick after all.
I don't know what is going on in Calgary. The Flames have lost seven of their last eight games, and they have lost those games by a whopping average of 2.4 goals. Maybe the team is trying to get its coach fired.The next three opponents are Anaheim, Arizona and San Jose, like you've said..
Winning those three games could be enough to finish the season outside the bottom ten.
Especially with Calgary finding ways to lose to Chicago and Anaheim twice within a week, the Devils on a losing streak and you never know about Buffaloe or even Pittsburgh.
I don't know what is going on in Calgary. The Flames have lost seven of their last eight games, and they have lost those games by a whopping average of 2.4 goals. Maybe the team is trying to get its coach fired.