Knies let down by team and keefer. Teams afraid of confrontation.

[legobeard]

It still blows my mind how hard Knies worked for the team, and how nobody stood up for him when his head got rock bottomed into the ice by Sam Bennet. The cross checks and dirty plays but Bennet, gudas, and tzitchucker, resulted in 0 leafs dropping the gloves. They all just skated around afraid to get a call.

Part of that falls on keefe. He should have slammed the team in the locker room for not sticking up for his rookie after how hard he worked.

Also gudas screeming in wolls face after the game winner? Someone should have slapped the beard off of his face, something to remember for next year.

Dissapointed in how non confrontational these guys are.

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[HamiltonNHL]

NOT TO MENTION:

Keefe would have never played him.

Only the Bunting suspension brought him in.

Just like Woll. Who should have been worked in during the first series.

 

[BallardEra]

Not sure why you'd expect Keefe to do this when earlier in the year he walked back his comments because Mitch was hurt.

He was non-confrontational so the team followed suit.

 

[rutz]

Leafs are soft with no pushback sticking up for Knies or when Kampf got pasted.Many other examples over the last 7 years how soft this team is. Dubas/Keefe have a culture problem with this team.Mattews and Marner just smiling at their opponents pushing them around.And don't mention old over the hill washed up players like Simmonds and Clifford. Leafs needed Bennet,Gubas,Perry,Moroon type players that still have the hockey skills but will also stand up for their teammates

 

[Socreges]

Father was VERY upset by this too and said Sheldon should have challenged Paul Maurice and pummeled him in a fight. He said it would have set the tone for the series and Leafs would have won.

 

[BallardEra]

Father was VERY upset by this too and said Sheldon should have challenged Paul Maurice and pummeled him in a fight. He said it would have set the tone for the series and Leafs would have won.

Did Father come home in one piece?

 

[Gary Nylund]

It still blows my mind how hard Knies worked for the team, and how nobody stood up for him when his head got rock bottomed into the ice by Sam Bennet. The cross checks and dirty plays but Bennet, gudas, and tzitchucker, resulted in 0 leafs dropping the gloves. They all just skated around afraid to get a call.

Part of that falls on keefe. He should have slammed the team in the locker room for not sticking up for his rookie after how hard he worked.

Also gudas screeming in wolls face after the game winner? Someone should have slapped the beard off of his face, something to remember for next year.

Dissapointed in how non confrontational these guys are.

Agree 100%. Very disappointed in this team's makeup, so unlikeable.

 

[Larcos_Unal]

I've said this before, I'll say it again. There's only one team in the NHL where a rookie gets manhandled, injured, and nobody says a peep. Only one roster where Kampf gets absolutely buried by Gudas with a late hit and nobody comes to stand up for their teammate.

It's ingrained into their DNA to be bitches, dipsy doodle and show up when the games are easy. JT, Matthews, Willie, Marner all have the same mannerism, they want to get on the scoreboard but they shrink when teams push back.

Dubas put together an amazing regular season team that is not built for the playoffs. The fact that he hasn't seen it yet says a lot.

 

[authentic]

Leafs are soft with no pushback sticking up for Knies or when Kampf got pasted.Many other examples over the last 7 years how soft this team is. Dubas/Keefe have a culture problem with this team.Mattews and Marner just smiling at their opponents pushing them around.And don't mention old over the hill washed up players like Simmonds and Clifford. Leafs needed Bennet,Gubas,Perry,Moroon type players that still have the hockey skills but will also stand up for their teammates

I don't entirely disagree but it is funny to think that if Bobrovsky didn't stand on his head none of this talk would exist

 

[BallardEra]

I don't entirely disagree but it is funny to think that if Bobrovsky didn't stand on his head none of this talk would exist

Maybe so but unfortunately that's how the playoffs go.

I'm sure Tampa fans thought the same thing in the opposite way for Vasilevsky.

Luck is another uncontrollable factor.

 

[Aashir Mallik]

He was a rookie, no one let shit down

I’m optimistic of him as a player. I saw a lot of good things from him. Nice motor, good hands, very good board work, but we shouldnt appoint him the leader of the team

I repeat he was a rookie who went down, he wasn’t let down.

 

[authentic]

Maybe so but unfortunately that's how the playoffs go.

I'm sure Tampa fans thought the same thing in the opposite way for Vasilevsky.

Luck is another uncontrollable factor.

Samsonov's save percentage - Bobrovsky's save percentage

One of these things is not like the other

 

[HandshakeLineRespect]

Meek little petulant children skating around looking at their skate laces scared to make eye contact. My mind cannot compute how young men can be this soft. Can someone light a fire under their sports phycologist ass and have them tap into their god given aggressiveness. I show more heart in mens league games.

 

[authentic]

It still blows my mind how hard Knies worked for the team, and how nobody stood up for him when his head got rock bottomed into the ice by Sam Bennet. The cross checks and dirty plays but Bennet, gudas, and tzitchucker, resulted in 0 leafs dropping the gloves. They all just skated around afraid to get a call.

Part of that falls on keefe. He should have slammed the team in the locker room for not sticking up for his rookie after how hard he worked.

Also gudas screeming in wolls face after the game winner? Someone should have slapped the beard off of his face, something to remember for next year.

Dissapointed in how non confrontational these guys are.

I don't think his head even slammed on the ice, and the play as it happened didn't actually look that dangerous to begin with. I think he got whiplash more than anything but yeah it still would've been nice to see him get some retribution similar to how Rielly and our entire team got jumped because Point slipped into the boards at full speed

 

[Larcos_Unal]

 

[Dayjobdave]

I thought someone needed to stick up for the kid.

 

[Knies iT]

Keefe is your prototypical fat high school gym teacher with the motivational skills of an HR rep.

Watch the All or Nothing series. Foligno asks Keefe if he can go Lowry after several dirty hits and Keefe shuts him down. Foligno was perplexed. Guys come here and walk on egg shells.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

Keefe is your prototypical fat high school gym teacher with the motivational skills of an HR rep.

Watch the All or Nothing series. Foligno asks Keefe if he can go Lowry after several dirty hits and Keefe shuts him down. Foligno was perplexed. Guys come here and walk on egg shells.

You got a link to the clip? Never seen that.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

Keefe is your prototypical fat high school gym teacher with the motivational skills of an HR rep.

He's awkward.

We need a new coach.

 

[57 Years No Cup]

It still blows my mind how hard Knies worked for the team, and how nobody stood up for him when his head got rock bottomed into the ice by Sam Bennet. The cross checks and dirty plays but Bennet, gudas, and tzitchucker, resulted in 0 leafs dropping the gloves. They all just skated around afraid to get a call.

Part of that falls on keefe. He should have slammed the team in the locker room for not sticking up for his rookie after how hard he worked.

Also gudas screeming in wolls face after the game winner? Someone should have slapped the beard off of his face, something to remember for next year.

Dissapointed in how non confrontational these guys are.

 

[57 Years No Cup]

I don't entirely disagree but it is funny to think that if Bobrovsky didn't stand on his head none of this talk would exist

Stop. Just stop. They were not GoaLIeD. Easy perimeter shots are easy to save.

He was a rookie, no one let shit down

I’m optimistic of him as a player. I saw a lot of good things from him. Nice motor, good hands, very good board work, but we shouldnt appoint him the leader of the team

I repeat he was a rookie who went down, he wasn’t let down.

Do you even understand the point of this thread?

 

[authentic]

Stop. Just stop. They were not GoaLIeD. Easy perimeter shots are easy to save.


Do you even understand the point of this thread?

They had a ton of close chances right infront of the net, I won't stop just because you want to make up stories to suit your narrative.

 

[Eye Test]

I don't entirely disagree but it is funny to think that if Bobrovsky didn't stand on his head none of this talk would exist

We always face the goalie who turns into prime hasek…wonder what the common denominator is?

Maybe we just play soft perimeter hockey which leads to predictable easy plays for the opp goalie. Less screens, less net drives, less garbage goals, less power plays. There’s no plugs playing in the net in the NHL, if you keep teams to the outside and the goalie can see the puck - they will save the puck.

Weird how in the series we beat tampa we actually had a lot of screens on vasilevksy and we got the bounces but during the panthers we played perimeter hockey and didn’t get the bounces.

#FireKeefe

 

[authentic]

We always face the goalie who turns into prime hasek…wonder what the common denominator is?

Maybe we just play soft perimeter hockey which leads to predictable easy plays for the opp goalie. Less screens, less net drives, less garbage goals, less power plays. There’s no plugs playing in the net in the NHL, if you keep teams to the outside and the goalie can see the puck - they will save the puck.

Weird how in the series we beat tampa we actually had a lot of screens on vasilevksy and we got the bounces but during the panthers we played perimeter hockey and didn’t get the bounces.

#FireKeefe

I said the same thing myself after we lost but it's still quite evident that was the case, atleast to the extent that "Easy perimiter shots are easy to save" is not exactly an accurate representation of where a lot our chances came from. We didn't exactly have a lot of trouble breaking through their defense and getting to the net on odd man rushes. We had more scoring chances than they did in the series at even strength.

 

[Menzinger]

There probably could have been a more forceful response. But also let's not pretend for a second that the refs/league wouldn't destroy whomever did it with an instigator penalty plus likely supplementary punishment.

It probably would have made things worse if it had happened, all things considered