Kitchener Rangers 2024-25 Season Thread, Part III

[Jives]

I'm not a betting man but I'm sure there are a couple of youngsters in Latvia that would take that bet?

The chances of winning one game vs a best of 7 series is huge. I’d give Lav 2-0 lead on Canada and I’d still bet Canada to come back in a best of 7. I’d guess Canada would still be a negative bet being down 2-0. London vs Kitchener in a 7 game series I would have to guess we would be a +300. That’s why anyone wiling to take a bet straight up on the series let me know. I mean it could happen but I’d rather push all in when we aren’t such a big underdog.

Imagine if Parsons gets injured or is tired from playing 90% of the season and can’t maintain this level of play. What are our chances then…..

 

[EvenSteven]

London, or any other team, can suffer injuries as well. Heck, our 2008 hosting team’s most important player suffered a season ending injury in the post season. Likely the reason we lost the Memorial Cup final game.

It could happen to anyone - even us in 2027.

 

[GeoBlue]

The chances of winning one game vs a best of 7 series is huge. I’d give Lav 2-0 lead on Canada and I’d still bet Canada to come back in a best of 7. I’d guess Canada would still be a negative bet being down 2-0. London vs Kitchener in a 7 game series I would have to guess we would be a +300. That’s why anyone wiling to take a bet straight up on the series let me know. I mean it could happen but I’d rather push all in when we aren’t such a big underdog.

Imagine if Parsons gets injured or is tired from playing 90% of the season and can’t maintain this level of play. What are our chances then…..

Either team can get injuries.

 

[Jives]

Either team can get injuries.

I don’t think there is a team in the OHL that relies more on 1 player that Kitchener does with Parsons. How many times has he been in the 3 stars of the game? I’m too lazy to count but I would be shocked if someone has more then him.

 

[East Avenue Bully]

London was without four key players at this year's WJC, away w Canada and Finland. Look at what they did to good clubs (Erie, Niagara etc) in that stretch.

We lose Parsons or Pridham, ya, we ain't doing that. We're much more reliant on key players than they are and way more vulnerable to injury.

Sure, we're like 2-3 points away from the top. But let ok at the games where we played head to head this year - not even close to the same level. Scores were close mainly due to Parsons.

Gotta go kill Barkey or Cowan with a clean check and then beat up whoever comes up to get payback, like Budnick rag dolled Cowan after he nailed Barkey.

 

[Matttheleaf]

No Bilecki in the lineup today, but Chromiak is back in.

 

[EvenSteven]

I've been hearing Jett as well, but nothing concrete yet. Hopefully if it does happen as a part 2 to the initial trade it involves London having to send back more assets, because if it is just a finalization after the World Juniors, then London will have gotten 2 big fish for:

Noah Jenken (Defenceman)
2nd Round Pick – 2026 (NB)
2nd Round Pick – 2026 (NIA)
3rd Round Pick – 2025 (SAR)
3rd Round Pick – 2027 (NIA)
4th Round Pick – 2027 (ER)
4th Round Pick – 2028 (LDN)
5th Round Pick – 2028 (LDN)

There is 100% no chance no how that is happening. Allen deal is a stand alone. No need for a two part deal where the price for Luchenko has already been sent to Guelph as part of the Allen deal.

Mark Hunter isn’t dumb. Luchenko could possibly have come back from the WJC in the same condition that Schaefer did. And to already have sent payment for him?

If Guelph is moving Luchenko, look for an Owen Beck from Missy to Peterboro comparable. ‘08 1st or equivalent. +++.

 

[Coaches Coroner]

London is going to be good any year we want to go for it, maybe the organization should fold?

 

[Matttheleaf]

Pretty much since we last won in 2008 London has been better then us in the regular season except for a couple of years. Most of the time when the Knights do just average in the regular season the rangers are also just average or miss the playoffs. 2 of the exceptions to that are the somewhat surprise year in 09-10 and the 17-18 year, both of which resulted in us not even making the finals.

 

[Jives]

First big fish now gone. Romani to Barrie. Cost Barrie Parker Vaughan who was the 5th overall pick in this past draft.

The rumour leaders.
Jett to London
Pinelli to Brantford
Gibson to Oshawa

Headrick in the line up today. If he was trade bait with Pinelli or anyone else he may have sat this one out. Good news he is playing!

 

[rangersblues]

London is going to be good any year we want to go for it, maybe the organization should fold?

London will always be competitive with some very good years. But there are seasons where they take a step back and sell assets.

Even if London (or any other team) is very good like this season it doesn't mean we shouldn't take a run at it. But when you're starting point isn't that close in reality, you shouldn't risk your future. There's a reason London barely missed a beat while 4 players were away at WJC.

First big fish now gone. Romani to Barrie. Cost Barrie Parker Vaughan who was the 5th overall pick in this past draft.

The rumour leaders.
Jett to London
Pinelli to Brantford
Gibson to Oshawa

Headrick in the line up today. If he was trade bait with Pinelli or anyone else he may have sat this one out. Good news he is playing!

I'll be really disappointed if a Headrick for Pinelli deal ever got done.

 

[Matttheleaf]

I know all of us realize Parsons is having an Amazing season and that us going on a run in the playoffs will largely rest on his shoulders, but bright now he has 12th best save percentage in an OHL season, and the 4th best GAA in a season as well. half the season left to go, but if he can get 23 more wins in the remaining games he will also tie the OHL record for most wins in a season.

 

[EvenSteven]

First big fish now gone. Romani to Barrie. Cost Barrie Parker Vaughan who was the 5th overall pick in this past draft.

The rumour leaders.
Jett to London
Pinelli to Brantford
Gibson to Oshawa

Headrick in the line up today. If he was trade bait with Pinelli or anyone else he may have sat this one out. Good news he is playing!

That’s actually a fairly inexpensive price for a 58 goal scorer (Romani) and a 41 goal scorer (Van Steensel).

Vaughn, a castoff OA and secondary picks.

Understanding Vaughn was the 5th overall pick, and us not needing an OA, what would Headrick plus secondary picks bring if he were put in play?

 

[Fischhaber]

That’s actually a fairly inexpensive price for a 58 goal scorer (Romani) and a 41 goal scorer (Van Steensel).

Vaughn, a castoff OA and secondary picks.

Understanding Vaughn was the 5th overall pick, and us not needing an OA, what would Headrick plus secondary picks bring if he were put in play?

Pinelli, Gibson, and Luchanko are the only available guys that are worthy of an 08 first rounder in my opinion. They are all rumoured to go elsewhere at this point in time.

There's other good players like Nordh, Foster, and McCue, but you could probably get them for picks only or a guy like Arquette.

 

[EvenSteven]

Pinelli, Gibson, and Luchanko are the only available guys that are worthy of an 08 first rounder in my opinion. They are all rumoured to go elsewhere at this point in time.

There's other good players like Nordh, Foster, and McCue, but you could probably get them for picks only or a guy like Arquette.

I’m thinking that with MM looking to buy, that’s the direction he would be looking at going in.

Guys like that for excess 07’s we have. They aren’t excess because they are fringe players in the league. They’re excess because of the emergence of the 08 group and the additions via the CHL/NCAA agreement.

For instance, D-MacNiel came in last year as a 16 year old in the post season and played really good. He’d have been on an A card if not for us having two 1sts last year (Reid, Romano).

 

[LostRangers]

I think a lot of fans are just tired of losing in rounds 1 to 3….I know I am. You go all in when you believe you have a chance to win the OHL. I don’t believe we have that chance this year. London is just too strong. The more knowledgeable fans realize what is happening with our 2007/2008 group and would prefer to build around that group. That means maybe sell a piece or two this year and fill the cupboard a little more that what we have right now (it’s not a great cupboard currently). If we add this year then that cupboard becomes even weaker so when we should put all our marbles in (mem cup year) we won’t have much to give up to add 2 or 3 very solid pieces during that year.

In 15 to 20 years I won’t remember losing to London in round 3. I will remember hosting the mem cup and having a very, very good chance to win the OHL championship. Banners hung in the rafters are what matters.

Sell a piece or two AND still try to get to the western conference final this year AND give ourselves the best chance to host mem cup / win an OHL championship that year OR add a Pinelli type player, hurt our draft cupboard, lose against London and hurt our chances of hosting and winning a OHL championship mem cup year. I’m taking option 1.

I’m bring a realistic fan. If anyone wants to bet me we lose to London in the playoffs this year you can pretty much name the dollar amount and I’ll take London. If you don’t want to take that bet then that probably means we should sell a couple pieces to set us up best for the future.

Not technically wise enough to highlight, but agree 200% with, “in 15 to 20 years” paragraph. Still have vivid memories back to 2003 and 08. The rest….meh.

 

[Fischhaber]

I’m thinking that with MM looking to buy, that’s the direction he would be looking at going in.

Guys like that for excess 07’s we have. They aren’t excess because they are fringe players in the league. They’re excess because of the emergence of the 08 group and the additions via the CHL/NCAA agreement.

For instance, D-MacNiel came in last year as a 16 year old in the post season and played really good. He’d have been on an A card if not for us having two 1sts last year (Reid, Romano).

I expect that the Soo is looking for another 07 forward, so one of them could be a fit in a deal for Nordh, if Sale doesn't return.

 

[Jives]

I expect that the Soo is looking for another 07 forward, so one of them could be a fit in a deal for Nordh, if Sale doesn't return.

Will take more then Arquette to land Nordh I would have to assume. Arquette, 2nd and 4th would be in the ballpark I’d think.

 

[Coaches Coroner]

Is the Storm PbP always this whiney?

 

[Ward Cornell]

Wasn't close to being a penalty.

Is the Storm PbP always this whiney?

Way too much talking like the Sudbury PnP!

 

[EvenSteven]

I expect that the Soo is looking for another 07 forward, so one of them could be a fit in a deal for Nordh, if Sale doesn't return.

I don’t see us getting Sale back but you never know. He’s having a hell of a WJC. But it was said pre tourney he would be going back to the AHL.

No doubt MM will be burning up the phone lines to the 11th hour to convince Seattle to send him here.

 

[Matttheleaf]

Will take more then Arquette to land Nordh I would have to assume. Arquette, 2nd and 4th would be in the ballpark I’d think.

Maybe we could use the 2nd round Guelph or Sudbury pick in next years draft and the 4th round London pick we have in this years draft.

 

[EvenSteven]

Will take more then Arquette to land Nordh I would have to assume. Arquette, 2nd and 4th would be in the ballpark I’d think.

Depend on demand. Imports have less trade value.

 

[LostRangers]

Maybe we could use the 2nd round Guelph or Sudbury pick in next years draft and the 4th round London pick we have in this years draft.

If that Sudbury pick is from the Hage trade, we can’t move it as it’s conditional.

 

[Jives]

Pridham during 1st period interview says he still plans on going to NCAA in the fall. I know that can change but as of now seems like that is his plan. Would of been a heck of an OA.