Kitchener Rangers 2022-23 Season Thread

[K2]

We have acquired goaltender Marco Costantini!

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[RangerNation]

We have acquired goaltender Marco Costantini!

Goodbye Harper.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

 

[robertmac43]

That is a statement trade, I really like it. The product in front of Costantini still needs to improve but this will be a major improvement

 

[MVarley]

MARCO COSTANTINI a Ranger!

 

[EvenSteven]

For me, the jury is still out. I would’ve shored up the back end ahead of trading for an overage goalie. MM better not be done. Costantini played behind a whole lot better defence last year than he will this year if moves aren’t made to bring in a couple defensive defenseman.

 

[RangerNation]

For me, the jury is still out. I would’ve shored up the back end ahead of trading for an overage goalie. MM better not be done. Costantini played behind a whole lot better defence last year than he will this year if moves aren’t made to bring in a couple defensive defenseman.

The fact that we are only 4 games in and there has already been a trade to tighten up goals against would assume MM is not done.

 

[GeoBlue]

Rangers being a contending team this season mostly depended on several vets that had average seasons last year stepping up to the plate this season. I think superior goaltending last year gave the team a false sense of success somewhat. Hopefully they get back in the win column starting this week. I doubt the Rangers beat London last year without the goaltending. I still think they are a long way from a championship caliber presently. The horrible start to this season really puts pressure on the GM and the coaching staff to either make changes or wait and see if the vets start to come around.

Oct 13

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Marco Costantini

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Hopefully this is the answer to the goaltending issues. I mentioned earlier that Parsons didn't seem to have the same edge as last year. Perhaps he needs this push.

 

[bobber]

Oct 13

HAM

Marco Costantini

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Hopefully this is the answer to the goaltending issues. I mentioned earlier that Parsons didn't seem to have the same edge as last year. Perhaps he needs this push.

There you go. Gives the management an answer to one issue. Maybe it's what was needed to get them going. Trades do wake teams up.

 

[EvenSteven]

Oct 13

HAM

Marco Costantini

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Hopefully this is the answer to the goaltending issues. I mentioned earlier that Parsons didn't seem to have the same edge as last year. Perhaps he needs this push.

Did we have goaltending issues? Or did we have issues playing defence in front of him? With Constantini here now, what will pushing Parsons accomplish? Anybody expect Parsons to be pushed to the point where he assumes the #1 role forcing Constantini to the bench as a back up? As an OA back up?

Please.

Unless Constantini craps the bed, Parsons will be the backup til next year.


The need for a couple solid stay at home defenceman just got more expensive now that we’ve used up an OA spot in the crease.

And regarding OA’s. Serpa and Valade, as far as I’m concerned had better get to that PPG + pace that was expected of them this year, or I’d be upgrading on them too.
There are much better OA’s out there in this league at forward that should be available than what we’re getting out of those two right now.

I understand it’s really early. But it was really early for Parsons too and look what we just did.

 

[RangerNation]

Did we have goaltending issues? Or did we have issues playing defence in front of him? With Constantini here now, what will pushing Parsons accomplish? Anybody expect Parsons to be pushed to the point where he assumes the #1 role forcing Constantini to the bench as a back up? As an OA back up?

Please.

Unless Constantini craps the bed, Parsons will be the backup til next year.


The need for a couple solid stay at home defenceman just got more expensive now that we’ve used up an OA spot in the crease.

And regarding OA’s. Serpa and Valade, as far as I’m concerned had better get to that PPG + pace that was expected of them this year, or I’d be upgrading on them too.
There are much better OA’s out there in this league at forward that should be available than what we’re getting out of those two right now.

I understand it’s really early. But it was really early for Parsons too and look what we just did.

Maybe this ends up being a tandem situation. Only Parsons can make that happen, and I don't imagine Constantini opposing to that idea. Worked for him last year.

 

[GeoBlue]

Did we have goaltending issues? Or did we have issues playing defence in front of him? With Constantini here now, what will pushing Parsons accomplish? Anybody expect Parsons to be pushed to the point where he assumes the #1 role forcing Constantini to the bench as a back up? As an OA back up?

Please.

Unless Constantini craps the bed, Parsons will be the backup til next year.


The need for a couple solid stay at home defenceman just got more expensive now that we’ve used up an OA spot in the crease.

And regarding OA’s. Serpa and Valade, as far as I’m concerned had better get to that PPG + pace that was expected of them this year, or I’d be upgrading on them too.
There are much better OA’s out there in this league at forward that should be available than what we’re getting out of those two right now.

I understand it’s really early. But it was really early for Parsons too and look what we just did.

Constantini has some of the best stats last year so a 2nd and conditional 6th is a steal. Eventually, we probably get rid of Harper and relieve some of the congestion on D. I thought Parsons would step up or at least be at even par as last year but I have seen some softies go in. Perhaps he needs a bit of competition. And maybe Vandenberg is better of with another year of regular playing time.

True, we still need to tighten up the defence. And true, Serpa and Valade need to pick up the pace. As you say, it's still early but I would hate to think it was Petizian alone that was running the offence last year. I'm a bit disappointed in what Pinelli has brought thus far, as well. I don't think MM is done.

 

[EvenSteven]

Maybe this ends up being a tandem situation. Only Parsons can make that happen, and I don't imagine Constantini opposing to that idea. Worked for him last year.

No disrespect to Costantini. But I’m not in favour of a tandem situation where one of the two is it an OA. That means half the time, we have one of our three OA’s sitting on the bench. If he were 19 years old? Different story.

For me, if we’re going to shore up the defence anyway, I would’ve done that first and then see how goaltending shaped up. Then, if Parsons needs to be upgraded on, then by all means do it.

Now I understand Costantini might not have been available at that point. Maybe that’s the bump MM ran in to and decided he had to get the deal done now. I’m just thinking that at that price, a second and conditional sixth, that it couldn't have been much of a bidding war for his services. (By the way, anybody have any idea what the conditions are on the sixth round pick?)

So perhaps, we shore up that back end and then we find that no matter who’s in net, Parsons or Costantini, the pucks stay out. If that’s the case, then Constantini becomes expendable.

 

[Square Corners]

So perhaps, we shore up that back end and then we find that no matter who’s in net, Parsons or Costantini, the pucks stay out. If that’s the case, then Constantini becomes expendable.

Think you'll have a harder time finding an OA goalie landing spot at the deadline. The selling teams wont want an OA goalie. The buying teams eiher likely already have 3 OAs or already have there goalie

 

[RangerNation]

No disrespect to Costantini. But I’m not in favour of a tandem situation where one of the two is it an OA. That means half the time, we have one of our three OA’s sitting on the bench. If he were 19 years old? Different story.

For me, if we’re going to shore up the defence anyway, I would’ve done that first and then see how goaltending shaped up. Then, if Parsons needs to be upgraded on, then by all means do it.

Now I understand Costantini might not have been available at that point. Maybe that’s the bump MM ran in to and decided he had to get the deal done now. I’m just thinking that at that price, a second and conditional sixth, that it couldn't have been much of a bidding war for his services. (By the way, anybody have any idea what the conditions are on the sixth round pick?)

So perhaps, we shore up that back end and then we find that no matter who’s in net, Parsons or Costantini, the pucks stay out. If that’s the case, then Constantini becomes expendable.

The tandem situation only works if like you mentioned later on in your post, the pucks stay out. If there is a 60/40 split and Rangers are in the running to win it all, I don't mind an OA on the bench. This team hasn't been to the finals since 2008, it would be nice to see something work.

 

[MatthewsMoustache]

Wonder what it means for Harper and Vandenberg. Harper could be serviceable as an OA but I cant really see a team going out of their way to take him. With Vandenberg I guess it's nice to have a 3rd option.

 

[Savard18]

We have acquired goaltender Marco Costantini!

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So weird to see a transaction that doesn’t involve the Ice Dogs.

 

[EvenSteven]

Think you'll have a harder time finding an OA goalie landing spot at the deadline. The selling teams wont want an OA goalie. The buying teams eiher likely already have 3 OAs or already have there goalie

That’s very true. If I am Parsons, I have to hope that BOTH Costantini falters and I step up and prove that I can be the number one.

This is Parsons’ draft year. He has to be pissed off with this trade. Four games into the season and he’s relegated to the back up role.

I can’t say that I blame him if he is.

Wonder what it means for Harper and Vandenberg. Harper could be serviceable as an OA but I cant really see a team going out of their way to take him. With Vandenberg I guess it's nice to have a 3rd option.

We won’t get anything for Harper. He will likely be waived as Duarte was in Hamilton. As far as Vandenberg goes, back to JrB I suppose.

 

[rangersblues]

We expect to contend this year. Part of that is making changes that mortgages the team’s future.

If we’re not prepared to do that, we might as well sell.

We did expect to contend but like I said it's anything but certain if we have the pieces right now. There's no sense trying to manufacture something that's just not there and mortgaging the future.

I agree 100% - sell or add. No fence sitting.

 

[TheAud]

Wow, he's here already.

 

[OHL4Life]

That’s very true. If I am Parsons, I have to hope that BOTH Costantini falters and I step up and prove that I can be the number one.

This is Parsons’ draft year. He has to be pissed off with this trade. Four games into the season and he’s relegated to the back up role.

I can’t say that I blame him if he is.


We won’t get anything for Harper. He will likely be waived as Duarte was in Hamilton. As far as Vandenberg goes, back to JrB I suppose.

feel bad for Vandenberg, hes an 04, he gave up some sort of ncaa options, im sure kitchener took care of him but he really never got a chance.

 

[EvenSteven]

We did expect to contend but like I said it's anything but certain if we have the pieces right now. There's no sense trying to manufacture something that's just not there and mortgaging the future.

I agree 100% - sell or add. No fence sitting.

Some may argue that MM manufactured the run in 17-18 when he traded his way into contention starting with the Logan Stanley trade and ending at that trade deadline.

He brought in three top six forwards:
Kole Sherwood
Givani Smith
Logan Brown.

Two top four D:
Logan Stanley
Evan McEneny

He mortgaged the future big time for that run. Massive picks and our 16 year old 1st rounder the other way in those deals.

 

[bobber]

feel bad for Vandenberg, hes an 04, he gave up some sort of ncaa options, im sure kitchener took care of him but he really never got a chance.

Vandenberg apparently has mono. He could be out for a while. Therefore, forcing the hand of McKenzie to shore up the net situation.

 

[EvenSteven]

Vandenberg apparently has mono. He could be out for a while. Therefore, forcing the hand of McKenzie to shore up the net situation.

Hopefully the Rangers can find him a landing spot in the league.

 

[rangersblues]

Some may argue that MM manufactured the run in 17-18 when he traded his way into contention starting with the Logan Stanley trade and ending at that trade deadline.

He brought in three top six forwards:
Kole Sherwood
Givani Smith
Logan Brown.

Two top four D:
Logan Stanley
Evan McEneny

He mortgaged the future big time for that run. Massive picks and our 16 year old 1st rounder the other way in those deals.

I'm one of those. Although our first rounder wasn't blue chip as usual.