Kitchener Rangers 2022-23 Season Thread (Part 2)

[AttackBeacher]

Only with the volume turned off. Lot of Attack players pulled "Kadri's" soccer move last night. It worked though. Credit to the Attack for their game plan.

He's working AHL games as well, so he must be doing something right

 

[bobber]

And many of us keep mentioning the lack of grit because Rangers do lack it. When Smith was brought in, that move added a new dimension to the team. The question is........F or D...or both? Who's out there that fits the bill?

As for the Wright discussion, I believe he's coming to Kitchener about as much as I believe Cutter Gauthier is going to leave Boston College for the Rangers.

When you bring in a player like Arcuri opposing coaches put a bullseye on them at practice before upcoming games. They don't give these types a free ride. Last night the Attack as an example took liberties with some Ranger players. Can't just have Andonovski stepping up every time. Next Ranger fans will complain about him heading for the box too much. Schmidt is huge but doesn't seem to strike fear into opposing forwards. Not advocating beating the hell out of opposing players just keep them honest. They do pay attention to who is sitting on the other bench.

 

[GeoBlue]

And many of us keep mentioning the lack of grit because Rangers do lack it. When Smith was brought in, that move added a new dimension to the team. The question is........F or D...or both? Who's out there that fits the bill?

As for the Wright discussion, I believe he's coming to Kitchener about as much as I believe Cutter Gauthier is going to leave Boston College for the Rangers.

If I were to choose my "grit candidates", IMO Andonovski fits the bill on D...maybe even on the whole team. As for our forwards, I don't know, Zidlicky? How's that for letting the youngsters do the dirty work? LOL! But seriously, we definitely need a veteran with grit.

 

[sbpointer]

When you bring in a player like Arcuri opposing coaches put a bullseye on them at practice before upcoming games. They don't give these types a free ride. Last night the Attack as an example took liberties with some Ranger players. Can't just have Andonovski stepping up every time. Next Ranger fans will complain about him heading for the box too much. Schmidt is huge but doesn't seem to strike fear into opposing forwards. Not advocating beating the hell out of opposing players just keep them honest. They do pay attention to who is sitting on the other bench.

Maybe another deal for a big forward with a familiar name will help this situation...
I'd rather see him in London but just saying kid has shown he can play and I don't think he would need to actually fight very much...

 

[bobber]

Maybe another deal for a big forward with a familiar name will help this situation...
I'd rather see him in London but just saying kid has shown he can play and I don't think he would need to actually fight very much...

Rangers had him in the rookie camp. Think they just brought him in to beat up the other rookies and make them aware of how tough things can be down the road. He did "jackeye" a couple of them.

 

[ottsabrefan]

Then have your team over trade for him instead of trying to convince everyone else he's worth it.

Sorry I'm not as interested in him for the price as the posters here that appear to be trying out for his PR team.

Great. Nobody asked you to trade for him.

I was responding to your illogical comment about his stock dropping after he got player of the game.

 

[Coaches Coroner]

Great. Nobody asked you to trade for him.

I was responding to your illogical comment about his stock dropping after he got player of the game.

Actually, they have, which is what prompted my post (which was more about Captain Canada leading the team to one of the more embarrassing Team Canada outings in recent memory, than getting the Participation Player of the Game award).

Nobody asked posters from other teams like you to come to the Rangers thread pumping Wrights tires and/or insisting we should trade for him and that he'd be fully worth Rehkopf ++, but that doesn't top them from coming.

 

[HockeyPops]

"Captain Canada" just lead his team to a stunning rout of a very good German team. I don't see you heaping praise on him though. Hmmm?

He is the big fish at the trade deadline this year. If Kitchener fancies themselves a contender, as the posters here have indicated, then you absolutely have invited the discussion to come. Cheers.

 

[bobber]

"Captain Canada" just lead his team to a stunning rout of a very good German team. I don't see you heaping praise on him though. Hmmm?

He is the big fish at the trade deadline this year. If Kitchener fancies themselves a contender, as the posters here have indicated, then you absolutely have invited the discussion to come. Cheers.

When you say "Captain Canada" you actually mean Bedard right Pops. He had 7 points last night. I think he was more of a leader than the rest. I agree with Coaches Coroner on Wright. He is a skilled player for sure but is he more skilled than the top players playing in the OHL at this point in time? Morrison to me is interesting because of how far Hamilton went. That experience is invaluable IMO. Personally I could care less where Wright ends up. Won't be Kitchener so it doesn't matter to Ranger fans.

 

[Coaches Coroner]

"Captain Canada" just lead his team to a stunning rout of a very good German team. I don't see you heaping praise on him though. Hmmm?

He is the big fish at the trade deadline this year. If Kitchener fancies themselves a contender, as the posters here have indicated, then you absolutely have invited the discussion to come. Cheers.

We haven't invited anything...Ranger fans have mostly showed a disinterest in the COST of Wright from the start, and his Fan Club keeps coming in to pump his tires. Anytime I or someone else isn't enthusiastic about trading for Wright, a bunch of you come in here borderline offended at the notion. Are some of you related to Shane?

 

[ottsabrefan]

Actually, they have, which is what prompted my post (which was more about Captain Canada leading the team to one of the more embarrassing Team Canada outings in recent memory, than getting the Participation Player of the Game award).

Nobody asked posters from other teams like you to come to the Rangers thread pumping Wrights tires and/or insisting we should trade for him and that he'd be fully worth Rehkopf ++, but that doesn't top them from coming.

Okay, maybe other fans have, but I haven’t. I have actually been supportive of the Rangers and was happy that Arcuri landed there since they have such a storied organization and such great fans.

I was merely posting on your comment on Wright’s value. That’s it. Not saying the Rangers should trade for him. When you make comments about other teams players, especially when negative and lacking sense, you elicit comments from fans from those teams. This shouldn’t be a surprise.

Anyways, good luck to your Rangers in the playoffs. I hope Arcuri does well for you.

 

[Coaches Coroner]

Okay, maybe other fans have, but I haven’t. I have actually been supportive of the Rangers and was happy that Arcuri landed there since they have such a storied organization and such great fans.

I was merely posting on your comment on Wright’s value. That’s it. Not saying the Rangers should trade for him. When you make comments about other teams players, especially when negative and lacking sense, you elicit comments from fans from those teams. This shouldn’t be a surprise.

Anyways, good luck to your Rangers in the playoffs. I hope Arcuri does well for you.

Wright hasn't been any OHL teams player this year...but I guess we know who's supposed to be getting him then.

 

[HockeyPops]

When you say "Captain Canada" you actually mean Bedard right Pops.

That was Coroner's phrase that I borrowed, and no, he was talking about Shane Wright. When you dump on the captain after a loss even though he is lauded for being his team's best player that game - and then fail to give credit to the captain when the team overachieves, it is clear your glasses are fogged up.

Bedard had a fantastic game. And the captain lead his team to a stunning rout. After that game both deserve praise, not whatever this is.

 

[Coaches Coroner]

That was Coroner's phrase that I borrowed, and no, he was talking about Shane Wright. When you dump on the captain after a loss even though he is lauded for being his team's best player that game - and then fail to give credit to the captain when the team overachieves, it is clear your glasses are fogged up.

Bedard had a fantastic game. And the captain lead his team to a stunning rout. After that game both deserve praise, not whatever this is.

My original comment was tongue in cheek for the benefit of my fellow Ranger fans after all the tire pumping you and others have done in this thread, and balking at fans not interested in trading Rehkopf++ for him...I have to admit I didn't think it would upset the Wright Brigade and others teams fans so much that they would constantly derail our team thread.

I guess I've watched this tournament long enough that losing to the Czechs like that leaves more of an impression than beating up on Germany for the umpteenth time. I am curious tho, If you say "stunning route" a 4th or 5th time does some kind of Genie appear and grant you 3 wishes?

Now, if we find out he told Fantili "this is an IIHF tournment, go to the net with your head down and get hit", I would call him a bonafide genius.

 

[bobber]

The Wright thing is a dead horse issue as far as Rangers are concerned. Over the years GMs have hugely over paid for many players and this year is no different. What it comes down to is whichever GM has skinned other teams out of their draft picks and loaded up they win the prize. Most of the top players aren't worth near what some teams have given up over the years. It does get a little ridiculous and most know it's a fact. It's a game where you have to pay to play.

 

[HockeyPops]

Canada lost. USA lost. Other than Austria the teams are closer this year than they ever have been. You are aware that Sweden has been penciled in to win the bronze and only got by Germany 1-0 to open the tournament? How is an 11-2 beatdown of the same team not a stunning rout (stunning rout, stunning rout), particularly the way that the game was played from start to finish?

At this point you are clearly arguing for the sake of arguing.

As for Wright, yes, he is that much better than the alternatives at this trade deadline. I like Arcuri a lot, and there are a few other good players out there, but there is no other forward even close to Wright. Whichever team lands Wright instantly becomes the favourite. If you are not in on him then you are an underdog. But it's still fun to root for the underdog. My dog isn't even in the fight this year.

Yes teams pay up for the big fish, but if you don't then you don't win. Last four champions:
2022 - McTavish
2019 - Suzuki
2018 - Thomas
2017 - Cirelli

I fully expect to add Wright's name to this list when we are chatting about this in a year's time.

 

[ottsabrefan]

Wright hasn't been any OHL teams player this year...but I guess we know who's supposed to be getting him then.

He’s Fronts property. He’s also obviously not on the Rangers.

 

[bobber]

He’s Fronts property. He’s also obviously not on the Rangers.

Take the Wright thing somewhere else. Tired of hearing about it on the Ranger thread. . Maybe the Soo thread.

 

[bobber]

Canada lost. USA lost. Other than Austria the teams are closer this year than they ever have been. You are aware that Sweden has been penciled in to win the bronze and only got by Germany 1-0 to open the tournament? How is an 11-2 beatdown of the same team not a stunning rout (stunning rout, stunning rout), particularly the way that the game was played from start to finish?

At this point you are clearly arguing for the sake of arguing.

As for Wright, yes, he is that much better than the alternatives at this trade deadline. I like Arcuri a lot, and there are a few other good players out there, but there is no other forward even close to Wright. Whichever team lands Wright instantly becomes the favourite. If you are not in on him then you are an underdog. But it's still fun to root for the underdog. My dog isn't even in the fight this year.

Yes teams pay up for the big fish, but if you don't then you don't win. Last four champions:
2022 - McTavish
2019 - Suzuki
2018 - Thomas
2017 - Cirelli

I fully expect to add Wright's name to this list when we are chatting about this in a year's time.

Pops your going to ride this old nag until the sun goes down. Rangers chances of trading for Wright are slim to none. Not enough left in the cupboard. I am sure Kingston wants a high end 2006. Rangers don't have one. They lost last night to a team ahead of them. Contention is a pipe dream until they can beat the bottom half of a weak division.

 

[HockeyPops]

That's a fair take.

 

[Ward Cornell]

Take the Wright thing somewhere else. Tired of hearing about it on the Ranger thread. . Maybe the Soo thread.

I agree...where's the mods?
Wish the fans from other teams stop with this trade nonsense unless it involves their team trades with the Rangers.

 

[Jives]

Good crowd for tomorrow. Anyone by chance have tickets in red or gold available for sale? Looking the 4 or 2 sets of 2 would be fine as well.

 

[GeoBlue]

Good crowd for tomorrow. Anyone by chance have tickets in red or gold available for sale? Looking the 4 or 2 sets of 2 would be fine as well.

Lots of available tickets on FB in the Ranger fans group.

You are aware that Sweden has been penciled in to win the bronze and only got by Germany 1-0 to open the tournament? How is an 11-2 beatdown of the same team not a stunning rout (stunning rout, stunning rout), particularly the way that the game was played from start to finish?

I would not call an 11-2 victory over Germany a "beatdown" so much as a 1-0 win over Germany as a HUGE "letdown".

 

[HockeyPops]

I would not call an 11-2 victory over Germany a "beatdown" so much as a 1-0 win over Germany as a HUGE "letdown".

It's possible. And yet when you look at the pre-tournament and tournament games Germany has played, I'm not so sure. Other than their letdown vs. Austria, they seemed to be a team turning in good results. They don't get many shots, but make good on a lot of the chances they do get.
GER 5 - SLO 0
GER 3 - AUT 4
GER 6 - LAT 3
GER 0 - SWE 1

In that context, GER 2 - CAN 11 is a beatdown. I certainly expected them to put up much more of a fight than they did.

 

[GeoBlue]

It's possible. And yet when you look at the pre-tournament and tournament games Germany has played, I'm not so sure. Other than their letdown vs. Austria, they seemed to be a team turning in good results. They don't get many shots, but make good on a lot of the chances they do get.
GER 5 - SLO 0
GER 3 - AUT 4
GER 6 - LAT 3
GER 0 - SWE 1

In that context, GER 2 - CAN 11 is a beatdown. I certainly expected them to put up much more of a fight than they did.

Well, in a sense, it was Bedard administering the beatdown. Take away his 7 points and you have a 4-2 game. I heard this type of logic on these boards before.

Now a true beatdown is when a team scores 9 or 10 goals ALL by a different player. The Rangers did this a couple of weeks ago. I can't recall who they were playing, though?