Kitchener Rangers 2022-23 Off-Season Thread (Part 4)

[robertmac43]

The team "on paper" is starting to become the team we wanted on ice.

If you are not on the believe train, join it now!

 

[digicamo]

Rogers has a pretty decent view of it if you recorded the game.

Very meh clip of it on the instagram account lets.talk.ohl as well. Hard to say what happened.

 

[OMG67]

I didn’t think the Rangers would pull it off and turn it around. I was WRONG!

 

[All the Answers]

Looks like interference on Peer coming on for a line change directly in front of Pinelli. Francesco didn't even get half a stride and all of a sudden there's a body in front of him. Hopefully Peer is ok and hopefully the league realises the 5 and a game was a joke and the wrong call on the ice.

 

[StingUpdates]

For those looking for the hit. I know my opinion doesn't matter here haha, but for me I'd need to see multiple views to confidently come to a conclusion.

It's hard to tell if he raises an elbow or shoulder. He does slightly change direction but you *could* make an argument he was avoiding 22 on WSR. His prior infractions don't help for giving him the benefit of the doubt. Genuinely think it's 50/50 if he's sspd.

 

[Habsrule]

Pinelli was in the wrong but Peer did jump off the bench right in front of him.

If the league looks at suspending him then they need to suspend the player who hit Sop in the head and also the player who hit Sop from behind. Both are just as dangerous of plays.

 

[All the Answers]

For those looking for the hit. I know my opinion doesn't matter here haha, but for me I'd need to see multiple views to confidently come to a conclusion.

It's hard to tell if he raises an elbow or shoulder. He does slightly change direction but you *could* make an argument he was avoiding 22 on WSR. His prior infractions don't help for giving him the benefit of the doubt. Genuinely think it's 50/50 if he's sspd.

Changes direction only because he starts to take a stide with his right leg a fraction of a second before Peer appears on the scene.

 

[RangerNation]

I'm still unsure about this call. And clearly the refs are too because if it was intentional, it wouldn't take 10mins to decide this. You watch through it 2 or 3 times, done. Pretty sure they had to recharge the iPad during the stop.

 

[rangersblues]

Pinelli was in the wrong but Peer did jump off the bench right in front of him.

If the league looks at suspending him then they need to suspend the player who hit Sop in the head and also the player who hit Sop from behind. Both are just as dangerous of plays.

100%. Sop was engaged with a back checker and DeAngelis gave him a vicious forearm to be jaw. I thought Pinelli was more sneaky. Sop was fortunate he wasn't injured, Peer was not.

 

[Gondrex]

How did this team finish 8th? I remember seeing them blow the 5-2 lead to Flint in the last weekend which pretty much sealed them finishing 8th. Now in the playoffs this team is legit playing perfect hockey. I see zero mistakes, zero giveaways, and flawless d-zone coverage. Pefert penalty kill, perfect passing. This team looks better than Hamilton did against us in last year's finals. I wouldn't be surprised if Kitchener goes all the way to the finals. Congrats...

Part of the reason the Rangers finished so low in the standings was because their D-zone coverage was actually the exact opposite of flawless for the first 2/3 of the season, and only seemed to begin going in the right direction in the last 1/3.

The Spits played well last night in my eyes. I thought Onuska was excellent quite honestly, and don't know why he would not have been the guy that would have started the series. I would definitely expect him between the pipes for Game 4.

 

[bobber]

I'm actually shocked you guys are condoning that hit. Peer is concussion protocol. Maybe look at it again. Elbow to the back of the head. Very clear in the replay. I thought Kitchener had made it a stance on no head shot hockey?

Anyway Kitchener deserves were they are now. Out played and out coached Windsor for the entire series. I'm sure you will end Spits fans misery on Thursday.

Sop got an elbow in the face. Crickets?

 

[Coaches Coroner]

His dirty play likely gave that play a concussion, the puck was at the other end of the ice. He should be suspended rest of the playoffs.

If Pinelli fell down, it would have been interference on Peer, jumping over the boards with his back to everyone skating back, in a players skating path. I've never seen a line change that bad at this level...if that's a "rest of the playoffs" suspension, your players head shot on Sop is worthy of a couple at least.

 

[bobber]

Part of the reason the Rangers finished so low in the standings was because their D-zone was actually the exact opposite of flawless for the first 2/3 of the season, and only seemed to begin going in the right direction in the last 1/3.

The Spits played well last night in my eyes. I thought Onuska was excellent quite honestly, and don't know why he would not have been the guy that would have started the series. I would definitely expect him between the pipes for Game 4.

Most of the Rangers Dmen were a plus going into the play offs with the exception I believe of Hamara. He seems to be doing a decent job in the play offs. He does have potential.

 

[Earlofpoundcake]

If Pinelli fell down, it would have been interference on Peer, jumping over the boards with his back to everyone skating back, in a players skating path. I've never seen a line change that bad at this level...if that's a "rest of the playoffs" suspension, your players head shot on Sop is worthy of a couple at least.

Both can be true. Pinelli‘s hit was intentional and dangerous. It doesn’t matter how Peer exited the bench. It was so unnecessary.

 

[Rangers True Blue]

5 and a game for that, but no call on a clear headshot on Sop

Forearm to the throat/head. Two refs. No call. Hence the REFS YOU SUCK chant. And these two officials absolutely sucked.

 

[Rangers True Blue]

His dirty play likely gave that play a concussion, the puck was at the other end of the ice. He should be suspended rest of the playoffs.

Total BS. It was more like a collision coming off the bench. Sure hope the kid is ok but there's no way that was intended or even a blind side for that matter.

I'm still unsure about this call. And clearly the refs are too because if it was intentional, it wouldn't take 10mins to decide this. You watch through it 2 or 3 times, done. Pretty sure they had to recharge the iPad during the stop.

If you watch something in slo mo long enough you can see unicorns...

 

[Coaches Coroner]

Both can be true. Pinelli‘s hit was intentional and dangerous. It doesn’t matter how Peer exited the bench. It was so unnecessary.

It absolutely matter how Peer exited the bench (especially now, when the matter comes down to suspension or not), If you are skating by the bench at speed, and a guy hops off the bench directly in front of you (doesn't look first, back turned) with less than a seconds notice, it's going to be almost impossible to avoid collision, and the natural reflex will be to brace yourself. All of which diminishes any 'intent'...now if another angle shows Peer jumps on the ice 5-6 feet in front of Pinelli and it's clear he should have been able to A) see Peer coming and B) should have had time to react in a way that doesn't result in contact, then we can talk.

 

[bobber]

How did this team finish 8th? I remember seeing them blow the 5-2 lead to Flint in the last weekend which pretty much sealed them finishing 8th. Now in the playoffs this team is legit playing perfect hockey. I see zero mistakes, zero giveaways, and flawless d-zone coverage. Pefert penalty kill, perfect passing. This team looks better than Hamilton did against us in last year's finals. I wouldn't be surprised if Kitchener goes all the way to the finals. Congrats...

Pinelli needs to be suspended for the remainder of the playoffs for that garbage. I still remember that dirty cross check against a Spitfires player in November which landed him a suspension. No room in our game for a player like that. Out to hurt people.

Spitsie how would you feel about MM sending in a video of the Sop elbow to the head incident into the league. Also Wright slammed a Ranger head first into the boards and gets 2 minutes. Dangerous hit from behind that deserved five. Savard should spend less time trying to manipulate the refs and more time coaching. Maybe the Spits wouldn't be in such a precarious predicament? The Spits have all the horses in this race. Just asks the Rogers colour guys here in KW.

 

[Rangers True Blue]

Both can be true. Pinelli‘s hit was intentional and dangerous. It doesn’t matter how Peer exited the bench. It was so unnecessary.

Both can be true. Pinelli‘s hit was intentional and dangerous. It doesn’t matter how Peer exited the bench. It was so unnecessary.

Collision. Not a hit. Hence the chant REFS YOU SUCK. Which they did for much of the game if not most.

 

[ohloutsider]

Sop got an elbow in the face. Crickets?

I have no intention of defending that hit. I can see what he did. Not a good play for sure. What I am unclear on is why Kitchener fans want to defend the hit on Peer? Very hard to see through those blue tinted glasses I guess. Fortunately the league is the one that gets to decide the consequences. We will see where this goes although I'm sure if Pinelli gets suspended it will be a conspiracy against Kitchener.

 

[RangerNation]

Guys, either he gets suspended and we wear our tinfoil hats or he doesn't get suspended and Rangers get called corrupt.

 

[bobber]

I have no intention of defending that hit. I can see what he did. Not a good play for sure. What I am unclear on is why Kitchener fans want to defend the hit on Peer? Very hard to see through those blue tinted glasses I guess. Fortunately the league is the one that gets to decide the consequences. We will see where this goes although I'm sure if Pinelli gets suspended it will be a conspiracy against Kitchener.

I fully expect Pinelli to be suspended going by the league standards. They will defend the referees decision regardless of what we armchair GMs think. My point is they have to be consistent if they are concerned about player safety. The Sop hit goes uncalled and should have been a match. The Wright hit should have been at least a four minute penalty. You can't call one incident an let the rest go. The Spits certainly have been on the right side of the refereeing so far in this series going by the number of power plays. Savard can't use the refs as an excuse for his failures. Rangers still won the game without Pinelli who is a massive part of the Rangers success when they do win games. Others stepped up.

Guys, either he gets suspended and we wear our tinfoil hats or he doesn't get suspended and Rangers get called corrupt.

I'm still going to wear my tinfoil hat.

 

[HockeyPops]

If you are skating by the bench at speed, and a guy hops off the bench directly in front of you (doesn't look first, back turned) with less than a seconds notice, it's going to be almost impossible to avoid collision, and the natural reflex will be to brace yourself. All of which diminishes any 'intent'...now if another angle shows Peer jumps on the ice 5-6 feet in front of Pinelli

less than a second...5-6 feet...those are the same thing.

 

[gimbznyr]

Spitsie how would you feel about MM sending in a video of the Sop elbow to the head incident into the league. Also Wright slammed a Ranger head first into the boards and gets 2 minutes. Dangerous hit from behind that deserved five. Savard should spend less time trying to manipulate the refs and more time coaching. Maybe the Spits wouldn't be in such a precarious predicament? The Spits have all the horses in this race. Just asks the Rogers colour guys here in KW.i m

I was sitting between the benches a couple rows up at the tunnel so could hear everything. Savard was absolutely delusional all night trying to game the refs. He spent more time bitching at moaning to the refs than focusing on running his bench it seemed.

 

[EvenSteven]

less than a second...5-6 feet...those are the same thing.

Regardless. I have a hard time suspending on that replay alone. A guy appears in front of you, out of the blue, from off the ice surface, and you have a split second to react.

If anything, Peer should have been the one who knew his surrounding when he jumped in front of Pinelli. Not faulting Peer. But this isn’t the common blindside where an offender lines up an unsuspecting player for a big hit.

It would be nice to see different angles and interested to know if the refs had other angles during the review. I suspect they did.