Value of: Kirby Dach

[Spearmint Rhino]

He’s been trash this season other than about a 10 game stretch. Should’ve been eating popcorn in the press box but can’t hurt his feelers ruining his confidence. He’s probably an average 3RW at this point so that’s a 2nd at best but more likely a flip for a similar project - Kaako would’ve been a decent target maybe. before he was dealt

 

[SallyBalls]

Dach won’t be traded at an all-time low. Absolutely silly to suggest it.

 

[Kosseca]

Yep, Maxime Truman and JT Utah are certainly two guys you have to take seriously, when it comes to having informations regarding the Habs.

That is the biggest problem in this tread. OP is leaning on "information" that was shared by two clowns known to start shit rumors.

I actually highly doubt that he's on the market. he's not untouchable, but I dont think MTL is pro-actively trying to trade him. This season has shown that he's not a C, but there are many other role that he could fill and with such a decent cap hit, it is worth trying him into these role before sending him to the moon.

 

[samsagat]

That is the biggest problem in this tread. OP is leaning on "information" that was shared by two clowns known to start shit rumors.

I actually highly doubt that he's on the market. he's not untouchable, but I dont think MTL is pro-actively trying to trade him. This season has shown that he's not a C, but there are many other role that he could fill and with such a decent cap hit, it is worth trying him into these role before sending him to the moon.

You're entitled to your opinion about these two "clowns".

But I've been following them for a long time and they had scoops that ended up to be true in more than a few occasions.

They're both well connected when it comes to the Habs.

 

[Baksfamous112]

He’s got a lot of talent, but made of glass. My guess is that he’s playing very cautiously to avoid injury, but I haven’t watched him much this season.

Unfortunately that was the case for the first 35 games. We could see glimpses of speed, smooth hands and vision but most of the time we saw a player that was hesitant, rushed plays and avoiding dirty areas and possibly getting injured.

What was great from Dach in his first year and training camp last year is he was not afraid to use his speed and cut down the middle and make a play. We have seen this version of him maybe 4 or 5 times this year and it resulted in grade A scoring chances or goals.

 

[samsagat]

Just not a realistic trade imo

Fair enough.

 

[Contenderorpretender]

I feel like this should be obvious satire, but legit can't tell with how some Leafs fans have pumped Robertson's tires over the years...

It's a joke

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Cause there is some flaws in his game.

He could be as productive, but the rest is a big question mark.

I think Clark is a more polished young player, with less uncertainties...

Mailloux never fails to capture the money shot.

It's a joke

Gotcha. Sorry, had to ask lol.

 

[ReimanSum1908]

It sounds like he might be available.

Tense meeting with Dach and Habs Management

He has no value whatsoever.

As with Newhook, he was another immediately obvious to the fanbase, and now confirmed, failure of a reboot-jumpstarting reclamation project. I hate being proven right about both of the wastes of assets and cap space, however minimal.

Dachs got little to no value
2nd has little value specially in a draft that is seeen as weak
Mailloux aint a conversation starter for clarke

Try again

I think that the joke has gone over your head.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

Dachs got little to no value
2nd has little value specially in a draft that is seeen as weak
Mailloux aint a conversation starter for clarke

Try again

I heard that was the Ducks ask for Zegras

 

[Prettyisland]

Value is very low. No sense in trading him.

 

[Eegs]

His value is probably too low to trade him. But unlike newhook he still has some future with this team, I'd give him a full year after his injury return season to better assess him. If he still underwhelming then its time to more seriously dump him or convert him to a full time 3c, a position I don't think he would excel at all given his style.

I guess we'll see

Newhook has been the much better player for the last month+. He might be the one that is around longer term.

 

[MonkeysUncle]

It sounds like he might be available.

Tense meeting with Dach and Habs Management

Something Kings should look into depending on cost, even though he hasn't hit his full potential when he was drafted. Kings would real solid with Kopi, Qb, Dach, Danault down the middle

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Dach won’t be traded at an all-time low. Absolutely silly to suggest it.

It's not really an All Time Low if you're the same mediocre disappointment that you have been for four out of the five years of your career, but OK.

 

[Fatass]

Is Dach a depressed value asset?

 

[samsagat]

It's not really an All Time Low if you're the same mediocre disappointment that you have been for four out of the five years of your career, but OK.

Well at least before the present season there was still hopes he could put it all together.
He produced at a 50-60 pts pace his two previous seasons (not even a full season, in reality) with the Habs...

Now he's 24 and showing no signs of improvement.

Yet he's showing signs he might not find a real niche in the NHL.
Because as of now, he doesn't have what it takes to be a top 6 forward nor have shown he has what it takes to be an effective role player.

He's actually worst than useless, he's a liability..

 

[samsagat]

Is Dach a depressed value asset?

He looks depressed yes.

It's my sole opinion here, but I think his size, position, draft pedigree, injury history (that might be an explanation for his poor development curve to some GM) and relative youth will make him having a (little) value, still.

So no negative value for him, I think.

 

[Fatass]

He look depressed yes.

It's my sole opinion here, but I think his size, position, draft pedigree, injury history (that might be an explanation for his poor development curve to some GM) and relative youth will make him having a (little) value, still.

So no negative value for him, I think.

Thanks. I see a guy who has all the tools, including size and aggression, to be a really good 3C. Nothing wrong with that. I guess, like you point out, the expectation is he could have been a 2C.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

Thanks. I see a guy who has all the tools, including size and aggression, to be a really good 3C. Nothing wrong with that. I guess, like you point out, the expectation is he could have been a 2C.

...don't see a C at all...Dach doesn't have the defensive awareness to be a C, imo...he'd look (much) better at RW...

 

[samsagat]

Thanks. I see a guy who has all the tools, including size and aggression, to be a really good 3C. Nothing wrong with that. I guess, like you point out, the expectation is he could have been a 2C.

Well, to become a 3rd line center he's gonna have to work on his game and change his mental make up.

Actually he seems to consider himself as a point producer, period. He's not very attentive to details like a good 3rd line center should.

But you know, there's been players in the past that realised they had to change their mental make up to stay in the league.

From seeing themselves as point producers they accepted a more ungrateful role, and became good at it.

I think it would be the first thing to do for Dach.

Instead of being delusional about himself.
To consider himself to be something he's not capable of doing at the NHL level, he should work to become a reliable player in some area of the game.
Cause as of now he's reliable in NOTHING.
He brings nothing to the table.

 

[samsagat]

...don't see a C at all...Dach doesn't have the defensive awareness to be a C, imo...he'd look (much) better at RW...

He has the mentality, pass first guy, of a center.

But outside of that, in other areas of the game, he doesn't have what it takes to be an NHL center, you're right.

One of the worst face off percentage of the league, freaking -29... Ugly!

 

[SallyBalls]

It's not really an All Time Low if you're the same mediocre disappointment that you have been for four out of the five years of your career, but OK.

Another poor take we've all grown accustomed to.

The Habs won’t trade him—he’s only 40 games back from a season-ending injury. Next year, he needs to put it all together.

 

[CanMerc]

why are we believing anything from a podcast

Because there’s no worthwhile hockey to watch for a bit and we need to keep busy

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

He has the mentality, pass first guy, of a center.

But outside of that, in other areas of the game, he doesn't have what it takes to be an NHL center, you're right.

One of the worst face off percentage of the league, freaking -29... Ugly!

...yup, we get it; you hate him on the team...

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Well at least before the present season there was still hopes he could put it all together.
He produced at a 50-60 pts pace his two previous seasons (not even a full season, in reality) with the Habs...

Now he's 24 and showing no signs of improvement.

Yet he's showing signs he might not find a real niche in the NHL.
Because as of now, he doesn't have what it takes to be a top 6 forward nor have shown he has what it takes to be an effective role player.

He's actually worst than useless, he's a liability..

He's essentially Filip Zadina.

Except the Habs could potentially find a taker because of cap inflation, whereas the COVID freeze squeezed everybody so bad that nobody would commit to Zadina's contract.

Another poor take we've all grown accustomed to.

The Habs won’t trade him—he’s only 40 games back from a season-ending injury. Next year, he needs to put it all together.

Five years of "Dach's really good the injuries just hold him back." Lmao.

Nevermind the guy who goes in every thread screaming about how Hutson is gonna be a Norris finalist this year is calling other people's takes bad.