Player Discussion Kirby Dach: Welcome to Montreal part 2

[Kaiden Ghoul]

We have to find the right combination for Dach, but that said Dach needs to get his head out of his own a$$.................Gotta get going real soon, or this summer they need to get a real 2C.

Exactly, its not like we are winning this season, just put him in position to suceed, if everyone stay healthy and he show promises, great, if not well im not in his head and i dont know what happen around him and what kind of mental shape hes in , but thats something that will have to be evaluate, before the draft.

If he continus to struggle and we keep him, fine i prefer to die with him than trade him for peanuts the time Hage comes or someone else

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

I don't think the Kings, have won one round since he landed there. So, he may not be quite as good as you and he think he is.....
Kopitar
Byfield
Danault
These are the 3 C's on that team.............

Again, you are a fan.................and I used to be. He was a very serviceable #3 guy, until he wanted too much money, and walked on the Habs.
No more.......he is their issue, not ours.

I never do what if's...........................

Yes, Bergevin overpaid a lot of the wrong guys..............glad he is gone too. In LA none the less!!

At center position Habs are actually among the very worst of the league if not THE worst. I'm not an huge fan of Phil. It's like if I was a big fan of a Camry or a Buick Allure with cars. Sure some BMWs are sexyer and attractive. The Camry gets me from point A to B. The Maserati does it too, when it's not at the garage for repairs.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

I think we’re at the point that he could sit a couple games, try and reset. Manage expectations moving forward, get some rest, maybe pair him with Gallagher and keep things simple.

I can appreciate trying to adjust to being a step behind what you’re used to, but I see way too much panic and over thinking in his decision making. That’s not his game at all.

I disagree sit him for a couple of games. The medias in Mtl are too important and that will make a big story. This is not good for the player, this add too much pressure.

Don't worry, with time he will get his game back. There is nothing else than wait.

 

[HabbyGuy]

When you don't compete you take lazy penalties. Marty won't punish him. Some GM's would have waived him by now

Any GM who would waive Dach "by now" at this juncture clearly have no claim to their profession.

That decision would be asinine.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Many of you were horribly wrong about this and were basing he would "surpass Suzuki" based on training camp and preseason. It reminds me of when Victor Mete was going to surpass Ben Chiarot because of his preseason performance. Dach has shown nothing close to Suzuki to warrant that kind of praise.

He'll need an unprecedented turnaround to go from arguably the worst player in the NHL to overtaking a top 15-20 C in the league.

I thought he could be another Suzuki at best but not better. He doesn’t have the shot.

This situation has zero in common with Victor Mete. Dach was a 3rd overall pick who showed great promise with us. He sucks now but that’s entirely due to injury.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Exactly, its not like we are winning this season, just put him in position to suceed, if everyone stay healthy and he show promises, great, if not well im not in his head and i dont know what happen around him and what kind of mental shape hes in , but thats something that will have to be evaluate, before the draft.

If he continus to struggle and we keep him, fine i prefer to die with him than trade him for peanuts the time Hage comes or someone else

Yep. Play the hell of him. The standings are meaningless anyway.

That being said, I’d absolutely welcome us trading for another center. That would actually take the pressure off of him and help our other players produce.

 

[Scriptor]

Yep. Play the hell of him. The standings are meaningless anyway.

That being said, I’d absolutely welcome us trading for another center. That would actually take the pressure off of him and help our other players produce.

Any stop-gap veterans as targets? Maybe an overpriced veteran with a couple of years left on his contract? Meanwhile, Dach earns his ice time as a 3rd line C, Hage matures in the minors and Beck gets a gradual taste of NHL as a 4th line C to start?

Is 4 years of Kadri at 7M too much?

With two years left at 34 years of age, I'd consider it, but 4 years is too old and too much, IMO.

 

[RC51]

right now Dach would not get picked on waivers for free, same as Primeau. Yikes

 

[G0bias]

Suzuki carried the team (outside Price) playing next to Drouin and Armia in the playoffs and facing the toughest matchups. That shows way more than 20-ish games in a lost season. Not to mention that he was clearly riding the coattails of Suzuki and Caufield when he was a winger on that line.

I'm not touching Dach vs Suzuki. Just that on a personal level, Dach had shown glimpses of 2C potential before his injury, which weren't just in training camp games.

Regardless, i think the team needs to seriously consider an alternative at 2C, while still holding on to him.

 

[Tyson]

I'm not touching Dach vs Suzuki. Just that on a personal level, Dach had shown glimpses of 2C potential before his injury, which weren't just in training camp games.

Regardless, i think the team needs to seriously consider an alternative at 2C, while still holding on to him.

A major part of the rebuild was for Kirby Dach to fill the 2nd line center role, that appears to have been a bust.
This sets the rebuild back.
I am of the mindset that Dach was never that good to begin with and his injuries have probably ended any top 6 potential. I feel for him.