Player Discussion Kirby Dach: Welcome to Montreal part 2

Rapala

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I said this many times and recently I visited the Hawks board and asked a few questions about him. I must say, they were a cordial lot and the replies about him were basically a confirmation of what we are seeing now.

After the trade I asked why the Hawks would be willing to give up on a 21-year-old 3rd overall pick, a guy with size and talent. Hopefully, he turns it around but he isn't showing us much in the way of potential.
People forget the one stretch Dach looked good was of a very limited duration with him ultimately needing 24 games off for two different injuries.
Personally I doubt Kirby Dach will ever be able to play the hard heavy game we need/expect from him.

It's no secret I HATE our mix of players particularly up front and I will always insist we need some hard asses up top not just in the bottom six.

Serious question...
Do we even have a top six player who knows how to properly use the body naturally for checking purposes.
 

OldCraig71

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He showed lot of potential in his first 60 games with us. He was on pace for 19 goals and 55 points and playing very well. He was only 21 so still room for growth. There's always a new toy effect when a player is traded tough so we needed confirmation if he could keep this pace for a longer period of time.

He's 23 now and almost 24 and it doesn't look like he can keep that pace. It's been 20 games since his return he should be fine by now. It looks more and more like it was the new toy effect and he can't self motivate. I'd wait until the end of the year but it certainly doesn't look good but i would not say that he did not show potential. When he's working he can be a good 50-60 points big 2nd line player.
New team, fresh start and he got a boost from it. He got hurt which was unfortunate for both him and the team. He had a year off and said he felt ready to go but for whatever reason is not displaying anything we saw during those 60 games.

Hawks fans mentioned the lack of consistent effort and the glimpses of him breaking out and the disappointment of seeing him struggle. He is getting the benefit of the doubt because he was drafted 3rd overall but that might have been a failure on the scouts that had him so high. We had a guy like that and he too showed glimpses but couldn't consistently deliver.

The expectation was that he would slot behind Suzuki and that isn't working and even last night on the 4th line he didn't wow anybody, no one in a Habs jersey did for that matter. There's a reason there are only 50-60 good centers in the NHL, it's a tough job, lots of responsibility and many can't do it.
 

morhilane

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How many points has he gotten away from the top line? I seem to remember he had a couple 2 assist games when he was with Caufield and Suzuki
1 assist on a Newhook's goal.
1 assist on a Matheson's goal.
1 assist on a Caufield's goal. (CC has only scored in 1 game in the last 10 and Dach didn't assist them).
4 assists on Nick's goals.
1 Dach's goal from Nick and Matheson.

Share assists on goals the most with Slakovsky (with 3).
 
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