Player Discussion Kirby Dach: Welcome to Montreal part 2

[Hannibal]

Just like Xhekaj, he needs time. And patience.

They both got big injuries and need time to find their groove back.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Just like Xhekaj, he needs time. And patience.

They both got big injuries and need time to find their groove back.

I was hoping for a better start for him but this isn’t unexpected. I still think at the end of the day, Kirby will chalk up 50 points for us.

But it may be back ended a little bit. He hasn’t played regularly since March of 2023. That’s a long time.

 

[WeThreeKings]

The 3rd period was a lot better, too bad Newhook couldn't finish that beauty play; it might have made a difference on his confidence going into next game.

He does have the same problem as the rest of the roster though and it's too much coasting, not enough engaging with the body, and too much reliance on digging with the stick.

Get the feet moving, get the body in, and then use the stick.

 

[Andy]

The 3rd period was a lot better, too bad Newhook couldn't finish that beauty play; it might have made a difference on his confidence going into next game.

He does have the same problem as the rest of the roster though and it's too much coasting, not enough engaging with the body, and too much reliance on digging with the stick.

Get the feet moving, get the body in, and then use the stick.

I don't like his body language some times. Often he has the puck, makes space for himself, and then looks as though he doesn't know what to do with it, so forces a pass that doesn't work.

I am hopeful because this is not what he looked like two years ago. For whatever reason, he is making bad decisions with the puck. I will attribute it for now to his timing being off due to the injury.

The habs need him to get on his game.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Stop the cross crease passes through the high slot , we already have Slaf refusing to shoot and only looking for the cross crease , one of them needs to shoot

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

He got a lot better as the game went on which was good to see. He is not going to magically flip a switch and look like his old self, so hopefully he can build off the end of last night's game and work his way back to looking like he did pre-injury.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I don't like his body language some times. Often he has the puck, makes space for himself, and then looks as though he doesn't know what to do with it, so forces a pass that doesn't work.

I am hopeful because this is not what he looked like two years ago. For whatever reason, he is making bad decisions with the puck. I will attribute it for now to his timing being off due to the injury.

The habs need him to get on his game.

Probably annoyed Armia is off in the corner standing still.

 

[PavelBrendl]

I don't like his body language some times. Often he has the puck, makes space for himself, and then looks as though he doesn't know what to do with it, so forces a pass that doesn't work.

I am hopeful because this is not what he looked like two years ago. For whatever reason, he is making bad decisions with the puck. I will attribute it for now to his timing being off due to the injury.

The habs need him to get on his game.

He telegraphs his passes so badly. He needs to threaten with his shot, even if only to be a more successful playmaker.

 

[417]

The 3rd period was a lot better, too bad Newhook couldn't finish that beauty play; it might have made a difference on his confidence going into next game.

He does have the same problem as the rest of the roster though and it's too much coasting, not enough engaging with the body, and too much reliance on digging with the stick.

Get the feet moving, get the body in, and then use the stick.

It was a beauty play but I wish he was more greedy in that instance, shoot the puck, don't over complicate things especially when you're not in the best form.

 

[KevSkillz4]

Just need patience, it's normal. 1 year without hockey that's huge.

 

[bsl]

I am not low on Dach. Just pondering alternative roads we might be forced to go down. Would be a crazy move but this is the kind of move that pushes the Habs up to the playoffs?

If the Pens say yes, would you do it?
* Dach
* Anderson
* Flames/Panthers pick
* Barron
for
* Crosby
* Letang

Caufield / Suzuki / Slaf
Laine / Crosby / Demidov
Armia / Newhook / Kapanen
Heineman / Evans / Gallagher
Beck, Hage, Roy, F Xhekaj, etc

Matheson / Letang
Hutson / Guhle
Xhekaj / Savard
Reinbacher, Mailloux, Engstrom

No

 

[bsl]

Yup. I don't consider this as crazy as it seems. I don't hate Dach but something tells me he is not here for the long haul. I also think the Pens miss the playoffs and are in rebuild denial.

Dach and the Flames/Panthers 1st are the youth hits. Crosby and Letang get us to the playoffs now vs later and the pressure is less on them at age 37 on our team with others like Suzuki, Caufield, Slaf, Guhle, Hutson surrounding them.

Lets see how this one ages. I know how it can look bad.

Explain to me what is bad about it? I can guess but rather you explain it? Value is not there? Bad idea for the Habs in our rebuild? Pens will never do it?

You can’t be serious. Habs are not near making playoffs. I think you just threw a lob over the net for fun.

 

[bsl]

Yes, we are on step 3 as the conversation starting point. This has the be the season where we find our true evaluation on Dach. Can't let is limbo on further than that.

When talking about Dach disappointing and needing a piece now, we can't talk about Beck, Kapanen, Newhook, Hage. Otherwise that's what creates the circle spin. The only two I would have confidence in being an impact 2C is Demidov or Hage but that is one again... years away

If Dach doesn't live up, this is where I land at Crosby. Perfect gap insert IMO.

No

 

[bsl]

My man Heineman deserves a center that wins face offs though. And Dach with Newhook the lefty to take them strong side leaves out Heineman. Kap 2C would be a bad look for the old Dacher at the wing I imagine.

You over think

 

[Ezpz]

I think dach gets more than five games after missing an entire season before being cast aside. The whole team is garbage at faceoffs though so it is definitely something that needs to be addressed.

 

[Skip Bayless]

I believe in Kirby.

This is just a dogshit start of the season after a dogshit pre-season for everyone.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Kirby will get a multi point night one of these nights on a couple broken plays and for whatever reason his confidence will be back and he will return to form. He’s missed a lot of time and is probably trying to get some reps in to have confidence he won’t be injured again, his normal tendencies will return. Hes a bit cautious and indecisive at the moment. Give him 20 games before judging.