DisgruntledHawkFan
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It's convenient to dismiss when it doesn't support the argument and it's convenient to point at when it supports the argument. It's a terrible stat.
Confirmed with Link: Kirby Dach to Montreal for 13th and 66th overall picks
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TLEH
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Knew we were in trouble with that pick when he was alone in the slot looking to pass the puck. Clear lane to the net. Saw this too many times to count
I thought I was in the prospect thread for a sec and ready to ask why you think that of Colton.
But yeah. Combine the two Dach boys (and give them magic health) and they'd be a terrific player.
You and I are both old school and I would opine that a +/- stat and the eye test done by a credible observer would result in better picks than a deep dive spreadsheet.
One need not get too granular to know if a guy can play or not.
OldCraig71
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I'm a Habs fan. I always bring up the fact that even though Dach was a third-overall pick, you guys traded him. If your management thought he was a good piece to keep in a rebuild, wouldn't they have done so?
Plenty of people are telling me to be patient with him because he will need time to get back to normal after a year lost to injury and that is fair. Hopefully, he can get on track but several things concern me about his play. He doesn't seem to be consistent with his effort level and routinely flubs passes and always seems to choose a pass over a shot option. I wonder if the injuries have taken a toll mentally or is he another player taken high in the draft that won't live up to the expectation?
Plenty of people are telling me to be patient with him because he will need time to get back to normal after a year lost to injury and that is fair. Hopefully, he can get on track but several things concern me about his play. He doesn't seem to be consistent with his effort level and routinely flubs passes and always seems to choose a pass over a shot option. I wonder if the injuries have taken a toll mentally or is he another player taken high in the draft that won't live up to the expectation?
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GIADF
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I assume that was a goof, but he was 3rd overall, not a 3rd round pick.
Even before he mangled his wrist his shot was pretty terrible, and he isn't exactly a dynamo playmaker. He was promising at first because he was so young, had good size, and held his own physically right off the bat. Not to mention he had a really nice performance in the bubble playoffs vs Edmonton.
Once that appeal of him faded away he became a pretty lackluster and injury prone player. Very happy the Hawks were able to move on and get what they did for him and I see him topping out as a 3rd line winger.
OldCraig71
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I fixed my error, thanks for noticing.
There were games in 22-23 where he looked like he was about to break out and many of us were excited about his potential. The knee injury happened and he didn't play till training camp. He is struggling this year and many are convinced that it will take a year for him to get back to form but I am not so sure.
He looks careless at times, flubs passes, and isn't engaged defensively, which could be due to missing so much time. Is this a trend you guys have seen from him in the past?
Hattrick Kane
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Very much so. And he lacks awareness on the ice, which is why he’s always getting hurt. He grew early so he probably never had to pay attention in lesser leagues.
Blackhawkswincup
RIP Fugu
Eddie O alluded to issues after trade with Dach work ethic/effort
Sounds like same thing that frustrated Hawks is still part of his game up North
Sounds like same thing that frustrated Hawks is still part of his game up North
He has Eric Lindros syndrome....bigger than other player growing up and then gets to the NHL where people are players are bigger, faster and in some case more physical to take advantage of defensively unaware players.
OldCraig71
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Marc Denis(RDS analyst) mentioned similar things last week in one of the post game segments on that network. He said it was off camera stuff he noticed from Dach on the ice, lack of hustle to get back on plays and at the end of shifts. As I said, hopefully it’s just post injury rust and not the norm.
