Dach has litterally no value. Instead of getting a 3rd rounder for him, you better hold on to him and hope he become a reliable middle six guy.
Player Discussion Kirby Dach (Part 3): TabarDach Edition!
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I was even going to say buy him out, but he’s really not a big cap hit. Regardless, I think they’re done with him. Hopefully they can entice a true number 2 centre to come.
Besides. He’s out for the season. They can’t trade him.
Benstheman
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yep. In Dach's case, you let him play on wing next year and hope he somehow find his groove again. Then at least you have options of trading him with a bit of value or extend him.
angusyoung
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Sucks for him and Montreal. Seems like the Habs are always in an evaluating cycle that they don't get out of,waiting and watching to determine what they got. Creates some difficult decisions no doubt.
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Green jacket update
Berthoothzzi is running away with it!
Berthoothzzi is running away with it!
No, I'm suggesting you made a terrible take worse by adding an even worse take.
Now you're bringing up Galchenyuk, 7th in scoring of the 211 players drafted in 2012, and making yet another vacuous take...
Gotta know when to fold em dude lol
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Still pulling for Dach. I think it’s unfortunate when a young guy like him can’t stay healthy. Having said that, I never really saw what others saw in him, not to say I told you so because the guy got hurt, but I wouldn’t be surprised if what you see is what you get with Dach.
I’d be more surprised if he developed into a bonafide top 6 NHLer than not. I was leaning that way from the moment we acquired him. I understand the gamble Hughes took, and who knows, time heals all wounds. Maybe Dach will get the last laugh
I’d be more surprised if he developed into a bonafide top 6 NHLer than not. I was leaning that way from the moment we acquired him. I understand the gamble Hughes took, and who knows, time heals all wounds. Maybe Dach will get the last laugh
Lafleurs Guy
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Sad but true.
I just hope he can salvage his career. He must feel horrible right now.
Have to believe Hugo has some kind of psychologist following him, I hope so!
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I am not giving up on Dach, anyway is value is just too low it isn't even worth trying to trade him, he showed flashes of being the a great player but this season from day one he didn't have any swag... Even if he isn't a 2C he can be a great middle 6 with size and skills.
Hoping for the best it will also lower is value for is next contract...
Hoping for the best it will also lower is value for is next contract...
Any discussion of Dach's next contract is... well... optimistic right now. As you said, hoping for the best is the only available option. He either finds a way to stay healthy and we'll end up with a decent/good forward, or his contract is off the books next year.
Such a shame. I was one of his biggest supporters and really thought he could become a key player for us. Dude just keeps having major injuries.
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Doesn't matter if he "showed great flashes" the guy is injury prone and he should be traded for anything we can get and save that cap space. This kid is a bum and we bet on him and we lost. Its time to cut him loose.
Lafleurs Guy
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He’s probably going to spend a lot of it learning to walk again…
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Markov was also considered injury prone, but then ended up being very healthy until the end of his career. Same with Koivu, who went from struggling to hit 50 games played a year to consistently hitting 70+.
The injury prone label is more often then not just non-sense.
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Injuries turned them from elite to very good. Dach is average. These injuries will make him below average.
It’s also crazy to suggest it’s just a label when he’s never had a full healthy season dating back to the WHL. Like how can you say with a straight face that there’s nothing to the label of injury prone when he’s taking the most basic of physical contact and is OFS.
Victoire HuGo
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To be fair I think there are some legit cases. Just take a look at the list of bandaid boys on DobberHockey and you'll see these guys rarely put together some full seasons
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A lot of times when I hear injury prone, it's nonsensical derp. A bunch of unrelated injuries and then you get this 'injury prone' label.
But in this case, he's had two injuries that have taken a substantial time out of his career. Moreover, this latest injury is a recurrence of a the one he suffered last season. When you get injuries that start to compound on one another then it's a legit thing to say.
Dach has tons of talent and I have no doubt he'd have killed it for us if he'd been able to stay healthy. But he hasn't. Morover, he's lost so much time in his developing years that it's going to limit him going forward.
I love the player. I love how he's worked to try to make it back and I'm rooting for him to salvage his career. Maybe he still can. But we cannot rely on him anymore. We've been extremely patient with this player and can no longer wait for this to pan out. We need to get a 2nd line center and move on. Dach can (and should) still have a roster spot. But it can be in our bottom six. If he pulls it together, maybe one day he can make it back to the 2nd line. But for now, anything he does is a bonus. I think he'll just be happy if he can save his career at this point.
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The key difference between Markov and kids like Dach/Guhle is Markov played like ~650 professional hockey games before the sliced achilles and knee injuries.
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If you’re looking for irrefutable scientific evidence of “injury prone”, good luck with that.
But, I’ll say this … dude can’t brace for impact. This much is obvious.
Any additional factors are speculative at best (biomechanics, genetics, muscle imbalances, etc).
But, I’ll say this … dude can’t brace for impact. This much is obvious.
Any additional factors are speculative at best (biomechanics, genetics, muscle imbalances, etc).
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Yeah no. The guy can't even take the basics of hits. The guy is cooked. The last injury he had this season to end his season was basically NOTHING. He was barely touched if not touched at all.
OldCraig71
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Very true, Kirby might be in a Carey Price situation where his quality of life is more of a priority than an NHL career. I wouldn't be surprised if he calls it quits. His knee has already undergone a substantial repair and he won't have the same level of mobility coming off a second surgery in such a short timeframe.
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OldCraig71
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Everyone speculated that his struggles this season were attributed to his surgically repaired knee. It's only logical to assume he will have lost even more mobility the second time around.
Kaiden Guhle is similar to Dach with all the injuries and it comes to a point where we have to wonder if it is the players lack of awareness on the ice is a factor as to why these things keep happening.
Victoire HuGo
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Guhle's injury this year was a fluke. It's like Price cutting Markov's achilles
