Kingston Frontenacs 2024 25 Season Thread Part Iii

[PuckLucker]

Is Kingston going to put out anything about the draft? Social media posted clips with Kulemin, but there's no articles about the draft - the only post on the website is the Media Guide blurbs for the two firsts. The Draft Tracker lists the players but doesn't even link to any sort of draft profile.

I also would've expected a Whig article - I'm curious to read comments on some of the picks. Hopefully I'm just being inpatient but with a whole day off yesterday I would've thought there might've been some media time.

I agree, there should be a full write-up on the new prospects by the Whig. Even if they don't speak to Cooper or Mann with being in Barrie for playoffs, put out some news on the latest draft class.
It's good their 1st rounder came to town to visit and do some media pictures, etc

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[leafs4life94]

Do you consider 2 2nd's, 2 3rd's and a 5th a Kings Ransom? Other 3 conditional picks don't count right?
I personally don't. He put up 32 pts in 30 gms in regular season

Sudbury also paid 2 2nd's, 1 3rd for Noah Roberts. 5 pts in 28 gms

Fronts paid up big too don't forget:
Willis - 2 2nd's, 3 3rds, 4th, 5th, 7th
Bishop & Hay: Velliaris, 2 2nds, 3 3rds, 4th, 5th, 6th

Time will tell if Cooper/Mann moves paid off

That's what I'm thinking - if Mews was an '05 I don't think people are saying the same things. They traded lots of assets for a one rental that unfortunately didn't work out. Kingston, Oshawa and Barrie both went in pretty heavy along with Brampton and Sudbury who're already out. Brantford is the only team that didn't splurge.

IMO The Roberts trade was much worse than the Mews trade. 2 2s, 2 3s along with a solid '07 for a high-end offensive D - a big haul, but as a rental for one year, with the low possibility to return? I don't think it's as bad as people are making it out to be. Of course the team's results mean it was a bad decision - but that'll be the case for almost every team that doesn't go all the way.

 

[ScoutLife4]

Do you consider 2 2nd's, 2 3rd's and a 5th a Kings Ransom? Other 3 conditional picks don't count right?
I personally don't. He put up 32 pts in 30 gms in regular season

Sudbury also paid 2 2nd's, 1 3rd for Noah Roberts. 5 pts in 28 gms

Fronts paid up big too don't forget:
Willis - 2 2nd's, 3 3rds, 4th, 5th, 7th
Bishop & Hay: Velliaris, 2 2nds, 3 3rds, 4th, 5th, 6th

Time will tell if Cooper/Mann moves paid off

I couldn't imagine this team right now without Hay,Bishop and Schenkel.
I think there's a good chance that Sudbury series could have went 7 without the deadline moves including Schenkel.

 

[dirty12]

What are you even talking about?
You are shitting on a kid that did not get signed by his NHL team for going to school?
He didn't screw anyone, Ottawa got a great return for him by taking advantage of a Sudbury GM that made a really questionable decision. -Everyone here for the past 2 months has been talking about how bringing Mews in seemed like a major mistake for Paps.

Mews has been vocal since last Summer that he was going to Michigan the only one to blame here from a fan point of view would be Sudbury's GM for thinking his team was better then it actually was and that they had a shot.

If Delic & Musty were healthy, the wolves probably had as good of a shot in conference as any other than the colts.
The colts have real depth at every position.

 

[frontsfan67]

Do you consider 2 2nd's, 2 3rd's and a 5th a Kings Ransom? Other 3 conditional picks don't count right?
I personally don't. He put up 32 pts in 30 gms in regular season

Sudbury also paid 2 2nd's, 1 3rd for Noah Roberts. 5 pts in 28 gms

Fronts paid up big too don't forget:
Willis - 2 2nd's, 3 3rds, 4th, 5th, 7th
Bishop & Hay: Velliaris, 2 2nds, 3 3rds, 4th, 5th, 6th

Time will tell if Cooper/Mann moves paid off

Bishop and hay will be back next year and they can trade them off and get picks back.

Big time blunder by Paps.

 

[frontsfan67]

If Delic & Musty were healthy, the wolves probably had as good of a shot in conference as any other than the colts.
The colts have real depth at every position.

Highly doubtful. They got swept.

 

[dirty12]

Highly doubtful. They got swept.

If two of Battaglia, Uronen, Guindon were injured; Kingston likely gets swept by any team in the conference too. Only Barrie would stand a chance if losing 2 of their top 3 forwards.

 

[ScoutLife4]

If two of Battaglia, Uronen, Guindon were injured; Kingston likely gets swept by any team in the conference too. Only Barrie would stand a chance if losing 2 of their top 3 forwards.

You could probably take Aitcheson out of Barries lineup and they probably don't win a game against Kingston.
Forget taking 2 out. -He has been a nightmare for them.

Or take Hilly out. -Likely lose both games.

 

[Jimmy582]

You could probably take Aitcheson out of Barries lineup and they probably don't win a game against Kingston.
Forget taking 2 out. -He has been a nightmare for them.

Or take Hilly out. -Likely lose both games.

Hrebik is just as good or better if u had to ask most Barrie fans .920 save percentage in the regular season he’s legit

 

[Logosarejusttargets]

You could probably take Aitcheson out of Barries lineup and they probably don't win a game against Kingston.
Forget taking 2 out. -He has been a nightmare for them.

Or take Hilly out. -Likely lose both games.

If my aunt had a penis she'd be my uncle.....can we move on now or is this going to keep going?

 

[dirty12]

You could probably take Aitcheson out of Barries lineup and they probably don't win a game against Kingston.
Forget taking 2 out. -He has been a nightmare for them.

Or take Hilly out. -Likely lose both games.

Aitcheson is an excellent hockey player. He does it all, very well

 

[frontsfan67]

If two of Battaglia, Uronen, Guindon were injured; Kingston likely gets swept by any team in the conference too. Only Barrie would stand a chance if losing 2 of their top 3 forwards.

That’s 2/3s of their top line lol. And that’s not what Sudbury was missing lol. Musty was still playing but got locked down. Delic came back game 4 but wasn’t enough. Sudbury lost fair and square.

Fronts would not get swept by Sudbury missing 1 guy for 3 games and their one of their stars 70% lol absolutely not.

 

[frontsfan67]

Hrebik is just as good or better if u had to ask most Barrie fans .920 save percentage in the regular season he’s legit

If he’s as good why isn’t he playing in the second round? He’s great obviously but it’s clear who barrie wants as their starter and so far Hillebrandt hasn’t given a reason not to be.

 

[Savard18]

Papineau made a good deadline deal trade for one of the best D in the league. The conditionals are gone but really what would a 19 year old defenceman of wuality go for at deadline. The Michigan thing was a threat but noone knew if it was serious.

I think Papineia went into it looking at the value of this e year and next year at the trade deadline what he could bet.

Mews has he has in past decided to screw everyone including the Flames and go the NCAA route.

It will be interesting to see what hapens whenhe is not BMOC in Michigan.

Did someone break your fingers? Are you typing on a flip phone? We can all probably pool together and get you a smartphone and an English class if you need. I usually assume on average nobody’s English/Grammar/Spelling can be worse than American’s but man, Canadians can give us a run for our money sometimes.

 

[DBerty]

If he’s as good why isn’t he playing in the second round? He’s great obviously but it’s clear who barrie wants as their starter and so far Hillebrandt hasn’t given a reason not to be.

Marty clearly favours Hillebrandt, not sure why as all season he was very up and down. Hrebik in my mind is definitely going to be a goalie to watch next year. Hillebrant has had a couple great games but in my opinion has not been challenged, which is where his inconsistency can show. The defence of Barrie has kept Kingston to the outside, which will favour Hillebrandt considerably. I wish they choose Hrebik for the playoffs, but he's not even even drafted yet so more then likely either Hillebrant commits somewhere next year or he is traded. Hrebik is too good to be playing the 1b.

 

[frontsfan67]

Marty clearly favours Hillebrandt, not sure why as all season he was very up and down. Hrebik in my mind is definitely going to be a goalie to watch next year. Hillebrant has had a couple great games but in my opinion has not been challenged, which is where his inconsistency can show. The defence of Barrie has kept Kingston to the outside, which will favour Hillebrandt considerably. I wish they choose Hrebik for the playoffs, but he's not even even drafted yet so more then likely either Hillebrant commits somewhere next year or he is traded. Hrebik is too good to be playing the 1b.

I agree. Similar situation in London with Elliot and Medvedev. Hrebik likely starter next year and if Barrie has a brain trades Hillebrandt earlier on in season(I could see Kingston being a team as I don’t think vaccari will be good enough and perhaps they want a 1a/1b with our stud 08 born goalie Gavin betts.

Big difference is age and experience.

Will ride Hillebrandt until he has a bad game which he hasn’t so far.

 

[ScoutLife4]

I would definitely say they have 2 number 1 goalies.
As does London and Brantford. -Good problem to have!

 

[leafs4life94]

Final NHL CSS rankings out - two Fronts on the list, Hopkins at 53 (up from 68) and Dervin 71 (up from 95).

Ex-Front Velliaris snuck on towards the bottom at 202

 

[leafs4life94]

I agree. Similar situation in London with Elliot and Medvedev. Hrebik likely starter next year and if Barrie has a brain trades Hillebrandt earlier on in season(I could see Kingston being a team as I don’t think vaccari will be good enough and perhaps they want a 1a/1b with our stud 08 born goalie Gavin betts.

Big difference is age and experience.

Will ride Hillebrandt until he has a bad game which he hasn’t so far.

Well this aged like milk - Hrebik starting tonight.

No changes for Kingston tonight. Listed D pairs changed but as was mentioned Saturday, they don't mean much.

 

[frontsfan67]

Well this aged like milk - Hrebik starting tonight.

No changes for Kingston tonight. Listed D pairs changed but as was mentioned Saturday, they don't mean much.

Perfect. Hillebrandt has had our number the first 2 games. 83 shots on goal in 2 games williamsons giving him a rest.

 

[frontsfan67]

Hillebrandt

Hrebik


Think it’s based off the last 10 games for the team how many each goalie has played Hillebrandt has been playing a lot better lately clearly according to the stats

 

[ottsabrefan]

Well this aged like milk - Hrebik starting tonight.

No changes for Kingston tonight. Listed D pairs changed but as was mentioned Saturday, they don't mean much.

I’m surprised they made a change. Why mess with something that is clearly working? That is risky IMO. Hopefully it backfires on them.

 

[frontsfan67]

Fronts go home and finally get some powerplays. Refs still missed quite a few Barrie slashes etc.

At end of second period Bertucci slashed Miedema and no call right in front of ref. Ref even talked to Bertucci about it for a minute after and still didn’t call it.

3rd consecutive game with 40+ shots

Barrie best defence in the eastern conference??? If not for the goaltending I’m sure they would’ve been lit up game 1 and 3

 

[leafs4life94]

Fronts go home and finally get some powerplays. Refs still missed quite a few Barrie slashes etc.

At end of second period Bertucci slashed Miedema and no call right in front of ref. Ref even talked to Bertucci about it for a minute after and still didn’t call it.

3rd consecutive game with 40+ shots

Barrie best defence in the eastern conference??? If not for the goaltending I’m sure they would’ve been lit up game 1 and 3

Man I'm sorry but you can't seriously still be going at the refs. That play at the end of the second you're talking about Miedema's shot at Bertucci was the exact same thing that Eliasson did to get the roughing call.

Eliasson's hold easily could've been coincidentals on Uronen with how easy he went down, and the Bertucci goalie interference call was borderline.

They missed a pretty bad trip/interference by Wakely on Heyes, and I thought they maybe could've looked at the OVS hit on Hopkins as a major, but for a Reid called game it really wasn't that bad.

Guindon is an absolute stud, quite easily Kingston's best forward so far and arguably their best player overall.

At what point does Willis get dropped in the lineup. They paid a TON and to have only gotten one assist in 7 games so far is not ok. I'd love to see Soto or Dervin get a look with Hopkins/Miedema.

The numbers still don't look super great for Schenkel but damn did he make some unreal saves tonight.

I'm curious what the OHL record for amount of longest stretch to start a game without a save is. The first save tonight came over 11 minutes in - something I have never seen in any hockey, ever.

Unrelated to the game, I only got to the rink as the anthem was starting, so I may have missed it, and I don't know if I'm overthinking it, but I'm a little concerned that there was no mention of Matthew Henderson at all tonight. I could see Kulemin up in their box and he was featured on the jumbotron at least once - I would think if Henderson was there he'd have been mentioned.

 

[frontsfan67]

Man I'm sorry but you can't seriously still be going at the refs. That play at the end of the second you're talking about Miedema's shot at Bertucci was the exact same thing that Eliasson did to get the roughing call.

So a chop at the leg goes uncalled in front of the refs?? Isn’t that like reffing 101 to call that? Little confused by that.

Eliasson's hold easily could've been coincidentals on Uronen with how easy he went down

Went down easy cause Eliasson is 6’7

and the Bertucci goalie interference call was borderline.

100% agree but will take it after all the missed calls on the colts in barrie

They missed a pretty bad trip/interference by Wakely on Heyes, and I thought they maybe could've looked at the OVS hit on Hopkins as a major, but for a Reid called game it really wasn't that bad.

Pretty bad that he was better than Ferguson who is younger.

At what point does Willis get dropped in the lineup. They paid a TON and to have only gotten one assist in 7 games so far is not ok. I'd love to see Soto or Dervin get a look with Hopkins/Miedema.

Finally Mann dropped him out of the powerplay. Powerplay for 75% of season was Battaglia, Guindon, Uronen, Pieniniemi and Hopkins.

Not sure why they ever screwed with that after it was clearly going great- then throw Willis on there who has only really had about the 1 good game with the fronts and none in playoffs. Put Soto on earlier tonight for the 1 powerplay and then switched on Heyes for 1- didn’t work and threw him on again and finally they score. Point is not sure how it took that long for Mann to pull Willis off

The numbers still don't look super great for Schenkel but damn did he make some unreal saves tonight.

Exactly. ATROCIOUS numbers but made a lot of timely saves that helped the fronts gain momentum.

Unrelated to the game, I only got to the rink as the anthem was starting, so I may have missed it, and I don't know if I'm overthinking it, but I'm a little concerned that there was no mention of Matthew Henderson at all tonight. I could see Kulemin up in their box and he was featured on the jumbotron at least once - I would think if Henderson was there he'd have been mentioned.

I’ve noticed this too. However there was an audio of cooper asking how Henderson was doing and Henderson said “pretty damn good” and laughed about it

Probably just hasn’t made trip down yet