Kingston Frontenacs 2024-25 Season Thread, Part III

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Continued from Kingston Frontenacs 2024-25 Season Thread, Part II

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[beastintheeast]

Hi just wondering how are you guys injury-wise. I think it is safe to say you are fighting for 3-4 in the standings and more the point who does not want to play Brampton.

 

[dirty12]

Hi just wondering how are you guys injury-wise. I think it is safe to say you are fighting for 3-4 in the standings and more the point who does not want to play Brampton.

Kingston is playing for 1st to 4th.
There are three weeks of meaningful games to play and new trends to develop. At this time, I think every team would prefer Brampton in round two.
Sudbury has beaten Brampton three times in its’ five meetings, Niagara is 3-1-1 vs Brampton. Barrie, Brantford, & Kingston all have winning records vs Brampton.
Oshawa has a losing record to Brampton & Niagara, and have not yet faced Sudbury.

 

[beastintheeast]

Kingston is playing for 1st to 4th.
There are three weeks of meaningful games to play and new trends to develop. At this time, I think every team would prefer Brampton in round two.
Sudbury has beaten Brampton three times in its’ five meetings, Niagara is 3-1-1 vs Brampton. Barrie, Brantford, & Kingston all have winning records vs Brampton.
Oshawa has a losing record to Brampton & Niagara, and have not yet faced Sudbury.

Kingston has faced Brampton once since the trade deadline and got hamered 6-0

Brampton now is a whole lot different than Brampton before the deadline.

Theoretically, it is possible but I think Brantford is on too much of a role to be caught

 

[Jawk]

Kingston has faced Brampton once since the trade deadline and got hamered 6-0

Brampton now is a whole lot different than Brampton before the deadline.

Theoretically, it is possible but I think Brantford is on too much of a role to be caught

Brantford has 8 games left, 4 of which are against London, Saginaw, Brampton, and Kingston.

5 of the 8 on the road. I think this thing is FAR from wrapped up.

 

[Logosarejusttargets]

Kingston has faced Brampton once since the trade deadline and got hamered 6-0

Brampton now is a whole lot different than Brampton before the deadline.

Theoretically, it is possible but I think Brantford is on too much of a role to be caught

I guess the last game of the season could mean a lot

 

[leafs4life94]

Schedule comparison with season series
Kingston Remaining Schedule

@ Windsor (1-0)
@ London (0-0-1)
@ Niagara (1-1-1)
vs Ottawa (3-2-1)
vs Peterborough (5-0-1)
@ Ottawa (3-2-1)
@ Peterborough (5-0-1)
vs Brantford (2-2-1)
@ Brampton (2-1)

I think a fair expectation is 12-13 points

Brantford Remaining Schedule
vs London (0-0-1)
@ Flint (1-0)
@ Saginaw (1-0)
@ North Bay (2-0-1)
@ Sudbury (2-1)
vs Brampton (4-1)
@ Kingston (3-2)
vs Ottawa (3-0)

Fair expectation also ~12-13 pts

Oshawa Remaining Schedule
@ Brampton (1-2)
@ Sudbury (1-0)
@ Soo (1-0)
@ Ottawa (6-0-1)
vs Sudbury (1-0)
@ North Bay (0-1)
@ Sudbury (1-0)
vs Peterborough (5-0-2)

Weird schedule with 3 Sudbury games left - the division/conference could come down to these Sudbury games because it’s not out of the question that Oshawa wins the other 5 games - fair expectation 13-14 points.

Assuming there’s no upsets against the bottom 3 in the East, the conference will probably come down to how Brantford/Kingston handle the Western conference games, their head to head, and Oshawa’s Sudbury trifecta plays out - right now I'd have to give the edge to Brantford for the conference but so much can change so quickly.

 

[ScoutLife4]

I personally think Barrie, Oshawa and Kingston are all better then Brantford and win against them in a playoff series.
I think we see the East finish like this as Barrie and Oshawa look like they have easiest schedule.
Barrie
Oshawa
Kingston
Brantford
Brampton
Sudbury
Niagara
N.B

 

[dirty12]

Kingston has faced Brampton once since the trade deadline and got hamered 6-0

Brampton now is a whole lot different than Brampton before the deadline.

Theoretically, it is possible but I think Brantford is on too much of a role to be caught

Brantford has a 3 pt lead over 3 teams with two of those having a game in hand, and still 8-9 games to play. Brantford can definitely be caught.
Though Brampton has played better, I still doubt there is a match up they could win.

 

[beastintheeast]

Brantford has a 3 pt lead over 3 teams with two of those having a game in hand, and still 8-9 games to play. Brantford can definitely be caught.
Though Brampton has played better, I still doubt there is a match up they could win.

LOL I think that whoever finishes first will get a 4 and done series against either Ottawa or NB

The other three series are going to be interesting, and all could go to 7 games with upsets in them. A great deal of the playoffs is going to be how healthy your team is going into the playoffs

For instance, if you have Burns and Pienemi playing 30 minutes every game, they will be tired by playoffs. It may not show in the first round, but again, it will show as the playoffs progress. That is the same foe for every team.

Goaltending will be big and how well they play and take the heat.


This weekend is going to give us a good idea of where the teams will be. Kingston has to stay with Oshawa at least; if they drop all three games or win 2 out of 3, it will make a difference. You could not schedule this road trip at a worse time.

 

[Logosarejusttargets]

Hi just wondering how are you guys injury-wise. I think it is safe to say you are fighting for 3-4 in the standings and more the point who does not want to play Brampton.

Looks like McGowan is out Thur vs Windsor

 

[beastintheeast]

Looks like McGowan is out Thur vs Windsor

Did McGowan fully heal from the last injury? It's better to keep him out at this stage than push him or anyone else who has an ache that could haunt. I know I am in the minority, but I would rather go into the playoffs in fourth, which is all but guaranteed with a healthy squad, than be in first with injured, tired players. non remember where you were at the end of the season, only how far you got in the playoffs,

 

[Logosarejusttargets]

Did McGowan fully heal from the last injury? It's better to keep him out at this stage than push him or anyone else who has an ache that could haunt. I know I am in the minority, but I would rather go into the playoffs in fourth, which is all but guaranteed with a healthy squad, than be in first with injured, tired players. non remember where you were at the end of the season, only how far you got in the playoffs,

Different injury

 

[dirty12]

LOL I think that whoever finishes first will get a 4 and done series against either Ottawa or NB

The other three series are going to be interesting, and all could go to 7 games with upsets in them. A great deal of the playoffs is going to be how healthy your team is going into the playoffs

For instance, if you have Burns and Pienemi playing 30 minutes every game, they will be tired by playoffs. It may not show in the first round, but again, it will show as the playoffs progress. That is the same foe for every team.

Goaltending will be big and how well they play and take the heat.


This weekend is going to give us a good idea of where the teams will be. Kingston has to stay with Oshawa at least; if they drop all three games or win 2 out of 3, it will make a difference. You could not schedule this road trip at a worse time.

Hamara & Lardis also play a ton. Except Barrie, the top players for the top teams in the conference have played a ton.
Brantford has an equally tough weekend @LDN, @Flint, and @SAG. A full Flint roster is probably every bit as good as Brampton, Sudbury, and Niagara.

 

[beastintheeast]

Hamara & Lardis also play a ton. Except Barrie, the top players for the top teams in the conference have played a ton.
Brantford has an equally tough weekend @LDN, @Flint, and @SAG. A full Flint roster is probably every bit as good as Brampton, Sudbury, and Niagara.

That is why I said that this weekend is going to answer a lot of questions.

 

[dirty12]

That is why I said that this weekend is going to answer a lot of questions.

This week and the following two are about as meaningful as the previous 20 imo. No key losses to injury and in some cases returns are most important. It’s really just about playing for home-ice and favourable matchups at this point.
I think Kingston should want to avoid Barrie and Oshawa for two rounds if possible

 

[ottsabrefan]

Schedule comparison with season series
Kingston Remaining Schedule

@ Windsor (1-0)
@ London (0-0-1)
@ Niagara (1-1-1)
vs Ottawa (3-2-1)
vs Peterborough (5-0-1)
@ Ottawa (3-2-1)
@ Peterborough (5-0-1)
vs Brantford (2-2-1)
@ Brampton (2-1)

I think a fair expectation is 12-13 points

Brantford Remaining Schedule
vs London (0-0-1)
@ Flint (1-0)
@ Saginaw (1-0)
@ North Bay (2-0-1)
@ Sudbury (2-1)
vs Brampton (4-1)
@ Kingston (3-2)
vs Ottawa (3-0)

Fair expectation also ~12-13 pts

Oshawa Remaining Schedule
@ Brampton (1-2)
@ Sudbury (1-0)
@ Soo (1-0)
@ Ottawa (6-0-1)
vs Sudbury (1-0)
@ North Bay (0-1)
@ Sudbury (1-0)
vs Peterborough (5-0-2)

Weird schedule with 3 Sudbury games left - the division/conference could come down to these Sudbury games because it’s not out of the question that Oshawa wins the other 5 games - fair expectation 13-14 points.

Assuming there’s no upsets against the bottom 3 in the East, the conference will probably come down to how Brantford/Kingston handle the Western conference games, their head to head, and Oshawa’s Sudbury trifecta plays out - right now I'd have to give the edge to Brantford for the conference but so much can change so quickly.

Just run the table and you take 1st!

 

[beastintheeast]

I'm not sure anyone here is following this, but it might be worth it. It could cost two teams their GMs.
Boyd was the head coach, and guess who was the goaltending coach? His first name is Kory.

Going to be interesting. This is as @OMG67 said, possibly a case like the Black Hawks. Who knew, who did or did not do anything.

Police look into '14 OHL sexual assault allegation

Peel Regional Police confirmed it is investigating a 2014 sexual assault allegation involving eight former Ontario Hockey League players.

www.espn.com.au

 

[FrontalLobe]

I'm not sure anyone here is following this, but it might be worth it. It could cost two teams their GMs.
Boyd was the head coach, and guess who was the goaltending coach? His first name is Kory.

Going to be interesting. This is as @OMG67 said, possibly a case like the Black Hawks. Who knew, who did or did not do anything.

Police look into '14 OHL sexual assault allegation

Peel Regional Police confirmed it is investigating a 2014 sexual assault allegation involving eight former Ontario Hockey League players.

www.espn.com.au

That's kind of a ridiculous take without any details being shared at this point. Nothing in that article says anything about when it was reported. For all anyone knows the victim may have just spoke about it for the first time this week. It very likely could be news to the staff members from that year as well. Do us a favour and keep all of your takes over on the Ottawa thread. You are constantly commenting on the Fronts and it's obvious you rarely watch their games.

 

[ScoutLife4]

I'm not sure anyone here is following this, but it might be worth it. It could cost two teams their GMs.
Boyd was the head coach, and guess who was the goaltending coach? His first name is Kory.

Going to be interesting. This is as @OMG67 said, possibly a case like the Black Hawks. Who knew, who did or did not do anything.

Police look into '14 OHL sexual assault allegation

Peel Regional Police confirmed it is investigating a 2014 sexual assault allegation involving eight former Ontario Hockey League players.

www.espn.com.au

You think coaches are out partying with teenagers at billets houses?
Has absolutely nothing to do with either GM I'd stop this nonsense.
It's a shame how people are always out to share the blame for a few waste of skin idiots on people that have worked hard to build a good reputation in the game.

Mods should also remove that shit you should not be trying to paint a picture that they were involved when you know nothing.

 

[FrontalLobe]

You think coaches are out partying with teenagers at billets houses?
Has absolutely nothing to do with either GM I'd stop this nonsense.
It's a shame how people are always out to share the blame for a few waste of skin idiots on people that have worked hard to build a good reputation in the game.

Mods should also remove that shit you should not be trying to paint a picture that they were involved when you know nothing.

Exactly^^^^^^^^^

I haven't agreed with many of your takes lately Scout but that is what this site is for - some friendly banter, opinions, and debate. Not the crap Beast just posted. Agree - somebody remove that post. The pettiness of how he presented the first name has me irate. Seems like he has an axe to grind with Kingston folks at times.

 

[Logosarejusttargets]

That's kind of a ridiculous take without any details being shared at this point. Nothing in that article says anything about when it was reported. For all anyone knows the victim may have just spoke about it for the first time this week. It very likely could be news to the staff members from that year as well. Do us a favour and keep all of your takes over on the Ottawa thread. You are constantly commenting on the Fronts and it's obvious you rarely watch their games.

"she did not tell her family what had happened until this year, after watching a press conference in which London’s chief of police apologized to a different woman who was allegedly sexually assaulted by a number of players on Canada’s 2018 World Juniors team."
This article has more details than the one posted above.

Peel police investigating alleged 2014 sexual assault involving OHL players | TSN

Peel Regional Police confirm they are investigating an alleged incident involving eight former Mississauga Steelheads players, Rick Westhead writes.

www.tsn.ca

 

[OMG67]

You think coaches are out partying with teenagers at billets houses?
Has absolutely nothing to do with either GM I'd stop this nonsense.
It's a shame how people are always out to share the blame for a few waste of skin idiots on people that have worked hard to build a good reputation in the game.

Mods should also remove that shit you should not be trying to paint a picture that they were involved when you know nothing.

I get what you are saying here and I agree if you take the angle that you are highlighting. I don’t believe that was the angle Beast was presenting. He could have explained his stance more clearly which would have helped.

The issue is the investigation will undoubtedly include the coaching staff with questions related to their knowledge of the incident. It may very well be true (and probably highly likely) the coaching staff had ZERO knowledge of the incident. No problem. However, if they did have any knowledge of the incident, it creates a challenge.

The issue now is that current standards are consistently applied to the past without regard of what the standards of the day were. So, if they did have knowledge of the incident, current standards will apply to how it should have been addressed by the team.

Based on the most recent information in print (thank you @Logosarejusttargets), it is highly unlikely the coaching staff would have known anything. But, it is worthy to at least note that two current OHL GM’s will likely be a part of the investigation and any knowledge they may have had at the time that was not properly acted upon at the time MAY result in sanctions today. No one is trying to discredit anyone. In fact, I don’t like how current standards are applied to past actions. But, we live in a World where they are and we should to be cognizant of it.

Thankfully, it does not sound like anyone knew anything based on the victim’s own words. That is a good thing. It doesn’t look like there will be another league wide witch hunt looking for people to blame other than the ones that were involved in the alleged assault.

This is not really a conversation topic, more just an acknowledgement that two of the coaches are still in the OHL, they will be a part of the investigation, and depending on their knowledge of the incident, further sanctions could be levied. That is a factual account of the current status. We should not take it any further than that until such time as additional information is provided.

 

[leafs4life94]

Hay back in, Moore in for McGowan, Schenkel starts.

Battaglia-Guindon-Uronen
Miedema-Hay-Heyes
Willis-Hopkins-Soto
Clark-Pickell-Wright

Burns-Moore
Pieniniemi-Bishop
Uens-Williamson

Schenkel
Vaccari