Kingston Frontenacs 2024-25 Season Thread, Part II

[SoupNazi]

Resumed from Kingston Frontenacs 2024-25 Season Thread, Part I

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[zaluty]

Will they add a dman before the Dec 19 trade freeze? Especially if Burns is suspended?

 

[leafs4life94]

Will they add a dman before the Dec 19 trade freeze? Especially if Burns is suspended?

If McGowan isn't healthy enough on Friday I think they have to - or else you're running 4D with Uens, Williamson, Velliaris and Moore. Even adding McGowan in there I'd like them to add someone, if not just to eat minutes.

My guess is that is that they'll sign Nolan Turnbull to a B card, he's been having a good year in the CCHL, and may be in the picture for next year with how few D they currently have coming back.

 

[zaluty]

Maybe Bergeron or Mondoux could be options

 

[leafs4life94]

Maybe Bergeron or Mondoux could be options

I think Bergeron is out of hockey, someone mentioned it on here in the summer and he hasn't played anywhere yet this year.

Mondoux definitely could be another one, has the size but I think skating is a question mark.

 

[zaluty]

I think Bergeron is out of hockey, someone mentioned it on here in the summer and he hasn't played anywhere yet this year.

Bergeron shows on the Ottawa Junior Senators site. Shows he has played 15 games with Rockland and 5 with the Jr. Senators

 

[leafs4life94]

Bergeron shows on the Ottawa Junior Senators site. Shows he has played 15 games with Rockland and 5 with the Jr. Senators

Might be worth double checking the year - those are the exact CCHL games he played last year.

Cameron Bergeron - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Cameron Bergeron, 2006-04-16 Orleans, ON, CAN Canada. Most recently in the CCHL with Ottawa Jr. Senators. Complete player biography and stats.

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[Fischhaber]

I'd imagine you can get a guy like Xander's brother Brayden Velliaris for pretty much nothing.

 

[zaluty]

Might be worth double checking the year - those are the exact CCHL games he played last year.

You are right, my mistake

 

[leafs4life94]

You are right, my mistake

A lot of the Junior websites do stuff like that, sometimes I'll click on OHL rosters from Google and it'll take me to 3-4 year old rosters, kinda annoying

 

[leafs4life94]

Are Uronen and Pieniniemi the best import duo Kingston's ever had? I was racking my brain and unless I'm missing some much older duos I think the only one that comes close is Martin Chromiak/Leevi Meerilainen - equal draft position, and although Chromiak is likely the best of the 4, I'd put Uronen and Pieniniemi at 2 and 3.

The only other one is maybe Nyman/Rasanen but I think they're a clear 3rd.

 

[Logosarejusttargets]

Will they add a dman before the Dec 19 trade freeze? Especially if Burns is suspended?

Burns will not be suspended

Vaccari is out for a few weeks as per what I'm hearing.

 

[leafs4life94]

Burns will not be suspended

Vaccari is out for a few weeks as per what I'm hearing.

Thats unfortunate - could be a big opportunity for Betts though.

Good news on Burns - a little surprised since most majors (warranted or not) I've seen this year have gotten suspensions but I'm guessing they took time served into account.

 

[frontsfan67]

Are Uronen and Pieniniemi the best import duo Kingston's ever had? I was racking my brain and unless I'm missing some much older duos I think the only one that comes close is Martin Chromiak/Leevi Meerilainen - equal draft position, and although Chromiak is likely the best of the 4, I'd put Uronen and Pieniniemi at 2 and 3.

The only other one is maybe Nyman/Rasanen but I think they're a clear 3rd.

Ikonen and Vainonen were phenomenal too.

 

[zaluty]

Over on the Sault board the rumour is Schenkel being moved soon. One poster says it is Kingston because of Vaccari's injury and Lalonde not playing well. Like I said just a rumour over there

 

[Fischhaber]

Over on the Sault board the rumour is Schenkel being moved soon. One poster says it is Kingston because of Vaccari's injury and Lalonde not playing well. Like I said just a rumour over there

That was speculation, not stated as fact. Makes sense though, as the season kind of depends on what the Frontenacs do it net.

 

[zaluty]

Never stated it was fact. Stated it was a rumour

 

[JoeSchmo]

That was speculation, not stated as fact. Makes sense though, as the season kind of depends on what the Frontenacs do it net.

The speculation that Charlie is being moved has 0 to do with Vaccari. I posted it before even knowing about Vaccari injury.

Has something to do with the speculation of an upcoming signing for the Soo which could lead to a goalie being moved.

 

[leafs4life94]

Well looks like deadline prices have been set with the Allen trade... that London team is gonna be an absolute wagon.

If Kingston does anything before the freeze it'll likely be the rumoured goalie swap, but I'm guessing they'll wait until after.

 

[GoFronts]

I still don't have confidence that a goalie change is going to happen. Cooper and Lalonde have been friends forever and I just don't get the sense that he'll be willing to move on from him. He absolutely should and I want them to prove me wrong, but I just don't think it'll happen.

Would have been great to get Allen. While Luchanko is amazing and would be a great addition, I really think the defense needs to be addressed more than anything and Allen seemed like the next best target if Gibson goes elsewhere

 

[frontsfan67]

I still don't have confidence that a goalie change is going to happen. Cooper and Lalonde have been friends forever and I just don't get the sense that he'll be willing to move on from him. He absolutely should and I want them to prove me wrong, but I just don't think it'll happen.

Would have been great to get Allen. While Luchanko is amazing and would be a great addition, I really think the defense needs to be addressed more than anything and Allen seemed like the next best target if Gibson goes elsewhere

If Kitchener is entertaining it- Andonovski is probably the second best after Gibson, Allen third imo.

But problem with that is it is yet another LHD- making Gibson and Allen significantly more important to a team like the fronts with the top 2 d being both LHD

If the fronts miss on Gibson AND Andonovski and just want a top 4 good d man the next best one may be Mitch young on sarnia, could be back next year too as one of the best OA’s in the league. Problem again with that though is he is ANOTHER LHD

 

[leafs4life94]

If Kitchener is entertaining it- Andonovski is probably the second best after Gibson, Allen third imo.

But problem with that is it is yet another LHD- making Gibson and Allen significantly more important to a team like the fronts with the top 2 d being both LHD

If the fronts miss on Gibson AND Andonovski and just want a top 4 good d man the next best one may be Mitch young on sarnia, could be back next year too as one of the best OA’s in the league. Problem again with that though is he is ANOTHER LHD

It will absolutely never happen, but they have the rights (or at least did) to someone that fits EXACTLY what Kingston needs as a good, big RD - Gavin McCarthy. It obviously isn't going to happen and it never was going to happen, but if McCarthy is a Frontenac for this year this team takes on a completely different complexion.

It'd also make the Shane Wright trade feel less underwhelming - obviously Miedema is a solid player but only getting Miedema plus 2/3/4/4/6 out of Wright still makes me think we didn't get enough.

 

[frontsfan67]

It will absolutely never happen, but they have the rights (or at least did) to someone that fits EXACTLY what Kingston needs as a good, big RD - Gavin McCarthy. It obviously isn't going to happen and it never was going to happen, but if McCarthy is a Frontenac for this year this team takes on a completely different complexion.

It'd also make the Shane Wright trade feel less underwhelming - obviously Miedema is a solid player but only getting Miedema plus 2/3/4/4/6 out of Wright still makes me think we didn't get enough.

I agree.

What a horrible deal only 1 2nd and 1 3rd for arguably the best player in the OHL, a 17 year old prospect that stunk with us the first 2 years and a guy who didn’t report.

Would’ve much rather taken a crap ton of picks or a 16 year old with some picks.

 

[leafs4life94]

I agree.

What a horrible deal only 1 2nd and 1 3rd for arguably the best player in the OHL, a 17 year old prospect that stunk with us the first 2 years and a guy who didn’t report.

Would’ve much rather taken a crap ton of picks or a 16 year old with some picks.

If i remember right there was a bunch of rumours on here saying multiple targets (I seem to remember Bonk and Cristoforo's names coming up) wouldn't waive to come to Kingston.

I also think they overpaid because they had loved Miedema as a prospect since the draft and they thought they had him until Windsor swooped him up.

 

[frontsfan67]

If i remember right there was a bunch of rumours on here saying multiple targets (I seem to remember Bonk and Cristoforo's names coming up) wouldn't waive to come to Kingston.

I also think they overpaid because they had loved Miedema as a prospect since the draft and they thought they had him until Windsor swooped him up.