Kingston Frontenacs 2023-24 Season Thread (Part One)

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i dont know if he is one of the best in the league. i live in windsor, i see him often. hes good, but not in the top tier, im not sure hes in the second tier to be honest.
Numbers wise for offensive defenceman he would be in the tier with guys like nelson and brz the d from Kitchener. I don’t know about his defence but look at his totals from last year since being traded to you guys from Niagara. In 33 games got 43 points. That’s on pace for 88 points in a full season.
 
Dionicio is one of the best d in the league. Even tho he is an import and I believe overage too- he won’t be cheaper than a second and a third like Jack beck to the soo.
Dionicio is not a good defence man imo. He is very skilled and wreckless and undisciplined which leads to quite a bit offence and some undesirable things
 
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Dionicio is not a good defence man imo. He is very skilled and wreckless and undisciplined which leads to quite a bit offence and some undesirable things
Ahh I see. Wasn’t sure. Haven’t watched much of him just have seen his totals. I don’t know if kingston would want that. We will see.

If they did make a move for a guy like that I’m sure they’d wait long enough to know whether or not the fin guy is coming over.

I’ve only been watching them for about 14 years but I don’t recall ever having a one of the top d in the league with kingston lol. Best one I remember is probably Sean day or Roland mckeown but they were more all around not offensive.

so getting a guy like dionicio would be out of their character for sure.
 
Numbers wise for offensive defenceman he would be in the tier with guys like nelson and brz the d from Kitchener. I don’t know about his defence but look at his totals from last year since being traded to you guys from Niagara.
not trying to be argumentative, but i think you need to watch him play before asserting him as a top d.
 
not trying to be argumentative, but i think you need to watch him play before asserting him as a top d.
I’m saying for offensive numbers. You don’t put up numbers like that being some scrub. That’s all I’m saying. Whether he would be a better forward or d that’s a different discussion but those numbers really pop out. I’m sure that he’s nowhere near the other 2 guys playing defensively.
 
I’m saying for offensive numbers. You don’t put up numbers like that being some scrub. That’s all I’m saying. Whether he would be a better forward or d that’s a different discussion but those numbers really pop out. I’m sure that he’s nowhere near the other 2 guys playing defensively.
hes outstanding offensively, no doubt, but struggles otherwise. i think i got confused when you said that he was one of the best in the league, not one of the best offensive d in the league.

Dionicio is one of the best d in the league.
 
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hes outstanding offensively, no doubt, but struggles otherwise. i think i got confused when you said that he was one of the best in the league, not one of the best offensive d in the league.
Oops! Sorry meant to say offensive d lol didn’t realize until you brought that up
 
Blackhawk’s play tonight against Detroit. Unless ludwinski has a goal or two tonight I think they’ll be sending him back to us after it. Hopefully he can play Friday for us.
 
Ottawa got kaleb Lawrence for a 8th round pick just like how we got savard. OA’s are dirt cheap right now. Fronts should say goodbye to callens and pick up an oa d
The only two overage defenceman available at that price would be Josh Kavanagh and Cam Gauvreau. I am not sure what James Jodoin would go for as I am not a familiar with him as he is in the western conference. All other potential overage defencemen would likely be dealt by a team that are rebuilding and they will want more for those players. The cost would be more like what teams got for Braden Hache, Jacob Holmes and Brayden Hislop earlier in the summer.
 
Yeah that’s why I said I don’t think they’d go for him because I said before they want a top 2-4 not a #1 d man that won’t be around next year. I thought he was an 05 but he is an 04.


There is a fixation because that affects the team. They’re waiting to see what happens before they potentially make moves bringing in someone who would fill his role if he doesn’t come here.


Again the ahl is around the same level of skill as liiga that wouldn’t make any sense at all.


Depending on how they do the fronts might trade ludwinski you’re right. However I could only see him being traded if they’re like 4th or 5th in the conference. I think they’ll mostly stand pat for the year here except around the deadline again if the import doesn’t report they’ll probably add a top 4 d man and see where that gets them.


This is still a building year for the most part. If they can add cheap OA’s or good quality players for cheap im sure they will do that. But I don’t see them swinging for the fences unless they’re in first in their division by January.


Also Bancroft isn’t in the ohl.
First I think you need to revisit the OHL page Bancroft Biuldogs

As to pinenemmi I thik just ai did wth moldenhauer that he is gone and ot gong to reprot. That beng said having a good defence is important nd if you can buld soething and then add to it so much better.

Remember for reasons beyond their control Fronts had to wait until after the WJC for the wright answer doyou want to wait until the WJC for an answer on him

If Ludwinski has a good year then he is going to get shopped. As you said this is a rebuilding year and if they can get a decent return all the more better for building. You will have Frasca back and could slide hm in that spot.
 
Literally lol.

If they don’t recoup their assets that they paid out last year for a championship they’ll be mediocre the next 3 years because they’re definitely not winning this year going back to back.

They lost so much from last year already and they’re just getting started with the trades.

Lost probably their best forward in Othmann. Robertson won’t be back, hayes won’t be back, white won’t be back, beck will be traded by the deadline, they shopped Simpson, they’ll be trading the remaining pieces too- the question is when and where- the only ones i see maybe staying in ptbo is gauvreau and maybe Dubois.

But with Dubois his trade value is probably higher than they ever thought it would be after this past week so I don’t even think he is safe.
I think that all the Petes oa and 19-year-olds will be avail at the deadline. The Petes are not going to even think about moving Mayer until then and they see how he does and how much interest there is. If he has a good start then the interest from the West will be huge.

As to the Fronts going for it this year I have to smile.

They do not have the defence that can support their goaltenders this year. They need and it worries me with the current management to develop the players they have so that next year Frasca is ready to center the top line and that everyone else is ready to move up in their responsibility.

Going for it now would only move you back in the development of this team as a long-term contender.

I think in the East that this might be Sudbury's year finally but that is an unknown.

Again Uens in the game that he got the 11 minutes did not cost a penalty killing as he took a player off with him and showed that he may be small but is not afraid to mix it up.
 
I think that all the Petes oa and 19-year-olds will be avail at the deadline. The Petes are not going to even think about moving Mayer until then and they see how he does and how much interest there is. If he has a good start then the interest from the West will be huge.

As to the Fronts going for it this year I have to smile.

They do not have the defence that can support their goaltenders this year. They need and it worries me with the current management to develop the players they have so that next year Frasca is ready to center the top line and that everyone else is ready to move up in their responsibility.

Going for it now would only move you back in the development of this team as a long-term contender.

I think in the East that this might be Sudbury's year finally but that is an unknown.

Again Uens in the game that he got the 11 minutes did not cost a penalty killing as he took a player off with him and showed that he may be small but is not afraid to mix it up.
The Petes will trade Owen Beck for sure at the deadline. They will also likely trade Konnor Smith and possibly Conner Lockhart and Sam Mayer. They could also deal Liam Sztuska. They will likely keep overage Jax Dubois, 19 year old players Jonathan Melee, Chase Lefebvre and Donovan McCoy as they likely will return next season to play as the Petes three overages players. They will also likely keep import Tommy Purdeller. The Petes will want a mix of a players and draft picks for the players they trade. They will need players to replace the players they trade. The way I see it the teams that will be sellers include Peterborough, North Bay, Sarnia, Kitchener and maybe Brantford and Windsor and the teams that will be buyers include Saginaw, Sudbury, Guelph and maybe Barrie, Kingston and Owen Sound. I not sure if London has the assets to make many moves. They have no players drafted in the 1st round that they are willing to trade and have only two, 2nds and three, 3rds. They may be able to make one big trade or couple of smaller ones. To do so they will have to part with couple of their 17 year old rookies. It should be an interesting deadline this year.
 
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First I think you need to revisit the OHL page Bancroft Biuldogs

As to pinenemmi I thik just ai did wth moldenhauer that he is gone and ot gong to reprot. That beng said having a good defence is important nd if you can buld soething and then add to it so much better.

Remember for reasons beyond their control Fronts had to wait until after the WJC for the wright answer doyou want to wait until the WJC for an answer on him

If Ludwinski has a good year then he is going to get shopped. As you said this is a rebuilding year and if they can get a decent return all the more better for building. You will have Frasca back and could slide hm in that spot.
I’m confused on the Bancroft bulldogs thing. Hamilton relocated to brantford not Bancroft?

The fronts are in a good position right now. I think they’re going to stand pat until around January with the exception of a few smaller trades and maybe letting callens go.

If this team performs past expectations I see them going all in. If it is just a middle of the pack team I see them trading ludwinski and maybe Holmes if there is the right buyer. Other than that I think there won’t be much movement.

This isn’t a rebuilding year- last year was. This year it’s important for them to hopefully get some much needed experience in the playoffs- maybe win a round or two and then the following season I think it will be an even better team.

I’d say it’s a building block year if that makes sense.
 
I think that all the Petes oa and 19-year-olds will be avail at the deadline. The Petes are not going to even think about moving Mayer until then and they see how he does and how much interest there is. If he has a good start then the interest from the West will be huge.

As to the Fronts going for it this year I have to smile.

They do not have the defence that can support their goaltenders this year. They need and it worries me with the current management to develop the players they have so that next year Frasca is ready to center the top line and that everyone else is ready to move up in their responsibility.

Going for it now would only move you back in the development of this team as a long-term contender.

I think in the East that this might be Sudbury's year finally but that is an unknown.

Again Uens in the game that he got the 11 minutes did not cost a penalty killing as he took a player off with him and showed that he may be small but is not afraid to mix it up.
uens is 19 this year I believe he’s just not an ideal 19 year old defenceman. If he grew a couple inches and put on 30 lbs I’m sure he would be much more effective but watching him game after game he gets knocked off the puck easily and can’t hit people back because he is so small.

About the fronts everything about them is good except the defence. That’s why I keep saying they should be getting a top 4 d man or two and that would solve the big problem. If they did that they’d be right up there with a team like Sudbury.


Imo Sudbury is the best team in the east as it stands right now after that deangelis trade but their goaltending definitely needs to improve.

If they can snag divincentiis from NB they’re a serious threat to win not only the east, but the entire league.
 
uens is 19 this year I believe he’s just not an ideal 19 year old defenceman. If he grew a couple inches and put on 30 lbs I’m sure he would be much more effective but watching him game after game he gets knocked off the puck easily and can’t hit people back because he is so small.

About the fronts everything about them is good except the defence. That’s why I keep saying they should be getting a top 4 d man or two and that would solve the big problem. If they did that they’d be right up there with a team like Sudbury.


Imo Sudbury is the best team in the east as it stands right now after that deangelis trade but their goaltending definitely needs to improve.

If they can snag divincentiis from NB they’re a serious threat to win not only the east, but the entire league.
a number 4 d is going to cost them so i think they will stay pat until January. Why give up picks for a team that is mid-pack this year. Again this year is going to be strange in the East.

As to goalies don't forget about Donoso. I think round the deadline he will be traded.

oops my bad
 
Uens will be 19 in 2024, he is eligible to play three more seasons.
he might be eligible but unless he gains some size or learns how to play along the boards he won't be 3 more years. Would you usehim as an OA defenceman

Uens will be 19 in 2024, he is eligible to play three more seasons.
he might be eligible but unless he gains some size or learns how to play along the boards he won't be 3 more years. Would you usehim as an OA defenceman
 
he might be eligible but unless he gains some size or learns how to play along the boards he won't be 3 more years. Would you usehim as an OA defenceman


he might be eligible but unless he gains some size or learns how to play along the boards he won't be 3 more years. Would you usehim as an OA defenceman
Good chance KGN does considering the cost of acquisition. When drafting/trading for a small high offence potential D, you’re probably expecting it to pay off at 19 & 20.
 
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