News Article: Kings would have taken Doughty over Stamkos in '08

ANyone have any idea who DL was offered for the #2 overall?

It was ever revealed what those offers may have been. I was thinking of Kovalchuk around that time but he ended up being moved at the 2010 deadline. Can't think of what other options may have been viable for Lombardi to legitimately consider it.
 
Mark Yannetti:

The only time I’ve felt we’ve made tangible mistakes that were entirely avoidable were when we drafted for need. Our first couple of years, we were developing our identity – as a team [and] as a staff. We drafted for need on a couple of occasions those first two years, and it was the wrong thing to do. We learned from it. You take the best player available, and sometimes that will mean you have four left wings, because they’re the best player available. I can tell you – we have not drafted for need for quite a long time. And we will not be drafting for need in any draft Mike [Futa] or I run.”

You have to think he was talking about the Teubert pick among others.
 
It was ever revealed what those offers may have been. I was thinking of Kovalchuk around that time but he ended up being moved at the 2010 deadline. Can't think of what other options may have been viable for Lombardi to legitimately consider it.

I remember hearing a rumor that there was an offer including Spezza.
 
Probably. Did the Kings just draft for need or BPA? It is totally possible for it to be both.

But wow, can you even imagine the Kings with Doughty and Karlsson instead?

I remember one of the scouts saying that the team lacked a true shut down style defenseman {like Matt Greene} in their system after the Teubert pick. That sounds like drafting for need not BPA.

Plus drafting Voynov too?
 
Mark Yannetti:



You have to think he was talking about the Teubert pick among others.

My buddy and I were talking to Lombardi in 2008 outside of development camp. My friend asked Lombardi, "Do you think there is an issue with toughness in the line-up?" Lombardi rolled his eyes, gave a sigh, and said, "That's why we got Teubert."
 
Teubert was probably the most bumbled pick in Lombardi's tenure thus far. If I'm remembering correctly both Karlsson and Myers were still on the board at that pick?

Pretty classic case of drafting for need instead of BPA.
 
My buddy and I were talking to Lombardi in 2008 outside of development camp. My friend asked Lombardi, "Do you think there is an issue with toughness in the line-up?" Lombardi rolled his eyes, gave a sigh, and said, "That's why we got Teubert."

LOL, sounds like Lombardi was already disappointed with Teubert. I remember the issue of size in the pipeline being discussed back then, but all Teubert was doing at dev camp was trying to act tough and always looking for fights in games against the other teams' prospects (and he wasn't that great at it either).

Lesson learned, don't take one dimensional, tough, stay-at-home type dmen in the first round. Their ceiling is VERY limited, and in Teubert's case, very likely to bust. The Rangers are also finding this out with Dylan McIlrath, and the same goes with San Jose when they selected Nick Petrecki.
 
Teubert was probably the most bumbled pick in Lombardi's tenure thus far. If I'm remembering correctly both Karlsson and Myers were still on the board at that pick?

Pretty classic case of drafting for need instead of BPA.

Kings had the 12th pick (from the Cammalleri trade) and moved down to 13 in a trade with Buffalo while obtaining an extra pick. So the Sabres moved ahead of the Kings to select Myers while the Kings got who they wanted at 13 with Teubert.
 
LOL, sounds like Lombardi was already disappointed with Teubert.

Teubert's fate was sealed pretty early on when he was sent to the ECHL instead of the AHL in both seasons after his junior team was eliminated.

Once a former first round pick hits the ECHL it's over for his NHL prospects, so yes the Kings gave up pretty quickly.

For me, Teubert goes down with Jens Karlsson as the worst Kings first round pick since I've been a fan. Berg's draft year was weak and he did manage 600 games, the Kings passed on a bunch of really good players to take Teubert who was non-tendered after his ELC and ended up playing in the 6th best league in Europe this past year, an amazing collapse in only five years. Reminds me of former Habs pick Terry Ryan.

I actually saw Teubert play a game for a Reign, it was amazing just how bad he looked in the ECHL, less than a year after being drafted in the first round of the NHL draft. You didn't need to be a pro scout to see the guy was going to struggle to ever be even an AHL regular, which is exactly what happened.
 
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I heard from a friend who watched Teubert in the ECHL that all he (Teubert) was interested in was making highlight reel hits and looking for fights.

It's amazing how this guy ended up on Canada's WJC team, twice!
 
I heard from a friend who watched Teubert in the ECHL that all he (Teubert) was interested in was making highlight reel hits and looking for fights.

It's amazing how this guy ended up on Canada's WJC team, twice!

Many Oiler fans on here said they won that trade because of the bolded... :biglaugh:
 
Many Oiler fans on here said they won that trade because of the bolded... :biglaugh:

The funniest part about that trade was at the Oilers press conference when Tambellini was totally clueless that Teubert had been a healthy scratch for the Monarchs for much of that season, I believe he actually snapped at the reporter who asked the question.

Just about sums up how awful those clowns running the show in Edmonton were.

My favorite thing about the Teubert flop was how the projections changed the worse and worse the guy played.

He went from the next...

Scott Stevens to
Adam Foote to
Bryan Marchment to
Sean O'Donnell to
Matt Greene to
Mark Visheau

Normally I feel bad when young players get so close but fail to reach their lifelong dreams, but not Teubert, it truly is fitting that he is playing for a team called the "Roosters" since he was something Roosters are sometimes called.

I heard that Kings scouts wanted Milan Lucic in second round of 2006 draft but opted to take a defenseman (Joey Ryan).

That is what former head scout Al Murray said, the scouts wanted to go with Lucic but they were overruled by management who wanted a defenseman after taking a forward and goalie in round 1.
 
You were still a fan in that thread :)

The usual toughness group was still very high on him as well.

Just trying to make sense of things. Wasn't THAT high on him as I was hopeful he would be when he was being touted as one of Canada's best U20 dmen. Yeesh.

The one running theme with Teubert is that he's had a bad attitude and overinflated ego.
 
All this Teubert talk is making me second guess the Mcnabb trade. Seems like a familiar recipe - gotta have that rugged bottom pairing defenseman.

I know we recouped our second round picks, but Fasching is going to be a good player. I also know Mcnabb is way closer than Teubert ever dreamed of being. Hopefully it's not the same song, different verse.
 
All this Teubert talk is making me second guess the Mcnabb trade. Seems like a familiar recipe - gotta have that rugged bottom pairing defenseman.

I know we recouped our second round picks, but Fasching is going to be a good player. I also know Mcnabb is way closer than Teubert ever dreamed of being. Hopefully it's not the same song, different verse.

I am pretty sure Teubert wasn't a 2 time AHL all star and that he didnt have the powerful shot that McNabb does.

Doesnt look like the same recipe ... and it doesnt sound like the same song ... or any other analogy :-)
 
You were still a fan in that thread :)

The usual toughness group was still very high on him as well.

The usual tire pumpers who love every move and player were right at home in that thread (not you Ziggy)

All this Teubert talk is making me second guess the Mcnabb trade. Seems like a familiar recipe - gotta have that rugged bottom pairing defenseman.

I know we recouped our second round picks, but Fasching is going to be a good player. I also know Mcnabb is way closer than Teubert ever dreamed of being. Hopefully it's not the same song, different verse.

Teubert played 167 games of bad undisciplined hockey in the AHL, during that time he had 37 points. Teubert was a healthy scratch in the 2013 playoffs for Oklahoma City (after playing one game) as a 23 year old. He was scratched because ECHL player Andrew Hotham gave them “a better chance to win.”

McNabb has played 159 games in the AHL, has 102 points and was a two time AHL all star.

Now with that said, McNabb could totally flop on the NHL level, but he and Teubert are in no way comparable.
 
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