Kings will win the cup again.

[Church of Toews*]

Harder, sure, but it's not like they don't have 20 other players who can shift here and there. Everyone wants to pretend Richards locks our roster or something.

Lets be honest here no team in the league is gonna want a 5.5 million 4th line center that lost his scoring touch and has a corroding defensive game otherwise he would of been picked up by a team. His contract will greatly determine wheather Williams and Stoll remain and will affect the contract that Tyfoli (or maybe it was pearson one of the two for sure) will get. Being tight to the cap having almost 6 million in deadweight can destroy a team

 

[Church of Toews*]

The Kings are gonna get Mcdavid for the ultimate troll job.

To me either Edmonton or LA getting McJesus would be infuriating.


You just know that if one of them does win it the teams respective GM will have the Cheekiest smile on his face and struggle to hold back laughs during the entire process

 

[Frank Drebin]

At this point even if they do somehow make they're not a threat in the playoffs. They'll essentially have to play 30 games of playoff hockey just to make the playoffs.

 

[Giuseppe Sallo]

go kings go!!!!

I still believeeeeeeeee!!!!!

 

[Cult of Hynes]

Fair enough. Wrong terminology. But recent results show its reasonable to expect the Kings can do it again.

those were different la kings teams, what do you not get about that?

 

[HanSolo]

those were different la kings teams, what do you not get about that?

I didn't say it was likely. Just possible.

 

[Steezer99]

No way. They might have trouble making playoffs.

 

[Jumptheshark]

not if they do not make the playoffs

 

[KingClipper]

Just call him Connor L.A.-vid.

 

[KingsOfCali25]

To me either Edmonton or LA getting McJesus would be infuriating.


You just know that if one of them does win it the teams respective GM will have the Cheekiest smile on his face and struggle to hold back laughs during the entire process

If the Kings got McDaivd and I was GM...there would be no questioning that I'd be full on laughing my way to the stage!

Just call him Connor L.A.-vid.

Oh no....what happened to all that positive the Kings can do it? Looks like your clipperness is coming out

 

[SettlementRichie10]

Lets be honest here no team in the league is gonna want a 5.5 million 4th line center that lost his scoring touch and has a corroding defensive game otherwise he would of been picked up by a team. His contract will greatly determine wheather Williams and Stoll remain and will affect the contract that Tyfoli (or maybe it was pearson one of the two for sure) will get. Being tight to the cap having almost 6 million in deadweight can destroy a team

If Bowman could get Chicago out of their hellacious cap scenario in 2010 and 11, Lombardi can do the same with the Kings.

Williams and Stoll will be unloaded for good returns at the deadline and the Kings will go into the deepest draft since 2003 with multiple first round picks. We don't need to resign either. Williams is in the twilight of his prime and Toffoli has been groomed as the top line RW for years anyway. Plus, Zykov and Kempe a year or so away. Nick Shore replaces Stoll as soon as next year.

Either Voynov is guilty and we have grounds to term the contract, thus freeing his cap space, or he's innocent and we get him back. Either cap space, or a significant defenseman returning. Both good options.

With this disaster of a season, Kopitar will have little ground to demand a Toews deal. He'll be lucky to get a penny over 8x8 with the way he's played this season. More cap space saved.

Pearson and Toffoli sign for bridge deals at no more than 3 mill each, IF that. Neither are in a position of strength with the Kings for their next deals, and neither contract will be big judging on recent RFA signings.

Kings will be just fine.

 

[Lunatik]

]It just seems like no one wants the wild card in the west....[/B] wild are starting to heat up a little, if dallas makes a move for a dmen they may be interesting team late in the season. I cant see the canucks holding on to a wild card spot. Kings have in previous years played well with their backs against the wall, but they really put themselves behind the 8 ball.

The Flames clearly do. To begin the day on January 16th the Flames sat 1 point behind LA for the final Wild Card spot and 5 points behind Winnipeg for the 1st Wild Card spot. Since that point the Flames have gone 6-2 in 8 games since and now 7 points ahead of LA and tied with Winnipeg. Not to mention the only teams in the NHL as hot over their last 10 games are the Ducks, Blues and Red Wings.

 

[LetsGoBLUES91]

At this point even if they do somehow make they're not a threat in the playoffs. They'll essentially have to play 30 games of playoff hockey just to make the playoffs.

No.

If they make the playoffs they are absolutely a threat.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

The Flames clearly do. To begin the day on January 16th the Flames sat 1 point behind LA for the final Wild Card spot and 5 points behind Winnipeg for the 1st Wild Card spot. Since that point the Flames have gone 6-2 in 8 games since and now 7 points ahead of LA and tied with Winnipeg. Not to mention the only teams in the NHL as hot over their last 10 games are the Ducks, Blues and Red Wings.

No, no the Flames do not.

/Jedimindtrick

 

[nik jr]

Since the NHL gained full possession of the Cup, it has happened seven times

Detroit-won in 37, missed in 38
Chicago-won in 38, missed in 39
Toronto-won in 45 and 67, missed in 46 and 68
Montreal-won in 68, missed in 69
New Jersey-won in 95, missed in 96
Carolina-won in 06, missed in 07

Also why couldn't the Kings suck last year?

habs won the cup in '69, and missed the playoffs in '70.

 

[CraigsList]

No, no the Flames do not.

/Jedimindtrick

Not working.

C'mon, do something.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

The Flames clearly do. To begin the day on January 16th the Flames sat 1 point behind LA for the final Wild Card spot and 5 points behind Winnipeg for the 1st Wild Card spot. Since that point the Flames have gone 6-2 in 8 games since and now 7 points ahead of LA and tied with Winnipeg. Not to mention the only teams in the NHL as hot over their last 10 games are the Ducks, Blues and Red Wings.

Oh i have the flames taking a division spot.... thats why they were not included in my teams fighting for wild card

 

[CanadienShark]

Someone else actually wrote a nice piece on 'close-game luck' which I think would be interesting to both of you (maybe DuckJet was the author ) as it had kind of the opposite thesis (unless DJ was comparing the season to the playoffs in which case I agree). I thought it was particularly applicable to both the Kings AND the Ducks this year who have completely opposite one-goal game records but I don't think anyone would suggest that the Ducks are THAT much better than the Kings (I know that's a little reductive, not trying to start a different argument). The Ducks are just absolutely getting it done when it matters, and the Kings are just absolutely falling apart when it matters.

Truth is there are an immense amount of reasons for the kings failures this season but they're all just excuses. It's an interesting list leading to a nightmare season. I think most teams we've played against would say it's not like we're not putting up a fight. I can't even count how many opponents have said they've had their best game of the season vs. us...add luck, suspensions/distractions, injuries, fatigue, (maybe frustration of no results?) onto that, and here we are. There's too much parity in the league to get beat down like that every night.

From here, we could either tank ourselves out altogether, or go on one of those stupidly crazy winning streaks to vault right back in. I think the really telling thing about this year's Kings and their actual abilities is no one would be surprised if either thing happened.

Don't worry, I take a little sadistic satisfaction from the Kings sufferings this season, so at least Sharks/Ducks fans get something good for once. I have a bad feeling that the Kings are going to pick up Kylington in the draft, and he'll become your high end #2 in a couple of years. If you could link me to that paper, that'd be awesome. I'd definitely like to check it out.

 

[CanadienShark]

Essentially it was based around rationalization of team success of failure by pundits and fans. I looked at trends in the NHL, EPL, NFL, and MLB of notable teams that are attached to the luck argument. This of course included the three year lucky Anaheim Ducks. Probably the simplest of my analysis because all I did was point to the analytics behind saying the Ducks succeed in large part due to luck. And I contend that if luck was such a factor that by now, after 200+ games of regular season dominance, their luck should have run dry and they should've been where the advanced stats suggest they belong, bottom half of the playoff seeding. And then I looked at how the team is structured for long term regular season success and Boudreau's history in that regard, and then a look at how the roster of players isn't quite conditioned for the higher level postseason especially with its systems. Resulting in their recent struggles. Stuff like that.

Ah, so your argument is essentially based around a regression function. Not kidding when I say it's interesting stuff. For all that everyone hates on stats and such, I kind of enjoy it (and by extension, econometrics, since I'm an economics major).

 

[HanSolo]

Ah, so your argument is essentially based around a regression function. Not kidding when I say it's interesting stuff. For all that everyone hates on stats and such, I kind of enjoy it (and by extension, econometrics, since I'm an economics major).

I wouldn't claim that what I did was expert analysis

It's a sports history class (which granted, thus far hasn't done anything related to sports history yet) centered around writing. I doubt he'll be a stickler for accuracy and a lot of it was opinion.

 

[CanadienShark]

I wouldn't claim that what I did was expert analysis

It's a sports history class (which granted, thus far hasn't done anything related to sports history yet) centered around writing. I doubt he'll be a stickler for accuracy and a lot of it was opinion.

Fair enough. Even if you don't get into the nitty gritty of things, it's always nice to have a legit academic paper written on these things. Well writing it isn't always fun, but finally handing it in always feels great. Man do I ever sound like a nerd lol... anyone who knows me personally would laugh, since I often come across as not caring about anything except hockey, beer and girls. But you don't need to get into advanced stats or anything to have a good analysis. I know next to nothing about advanced stats, yet I feel like I'm an alright judge of hockey players (and other sports).

 

[HanSolo]

Fair enough. Even if you don't get into the nitty gritty of things, it's always nice to have a legit academic paper written on these things. Well writing it isn't always fun, but finally handing it in always feels great. Man do I ever sound like a nerd lol... anyone who knows me personally would laugh, since I often come across as not caring about anything except hockey, beer and girls. But you don't need to get into advanced stats or anything to have a good analysis. I know next to nothing about advanced stats, yet I feel like I'm an alright judge of hockey players (and other sports).

Im starting to like writing a lot actually. First two years of college my essays were laughably bad when it came to things I didn't care about. Writing 3 pages was a struggle and a punishment.

Last semester I was assigned a research paper on mortgage fraud's impact and the housing collapse in Las Vegas. Boring to me if not summarized quickly. 6 pages max. I needed to drop the font size to get it down to 6 pages and cut out excess details because I was at 9 without realizing. I got a 48/50 with two points marked off for having incorrect font size.

 

[Reclamation Project]

I wouldn't claim that what I did was expert analysis

It's a sports history class (which granted, thus far hasn't done anything related to sports history yet) centered around writing. I doubt he'll be a stickler for accuracy and a lot of it was opinion.

**** school and their bait-and-switch tactics.

 

[Church of Toews*]

If Bowman could get Chicago out of their hellacious cap scenario in 2010 and 11, Lombardi can do the same with the Kings.

Williams and Stoll will be unloaded for good returns at the deadline and the Kings will go into the deepest draft since 2003 with multiple first round picks. We don't need to resign either. Williams is in the twilight of his prime and Toffoli has been groomed as the top line RW for years anyway. Plus, Zykov and Kempe a year or so away. Nick Shore replaces Stoll as soon as next year.

Either Voynov is guilty and we have grounds to term the contract, thus freeing his cap space, or he's innocent and we get him back. Either cap space, or a significant defenseman returning. Both good options.

With this disaster of a season, Kopitar will have little ground to demand a Toews deal. He'll be lucky to get a penny over 8x8 with the way he's played this season. More cap space saved.

Pearson and Toffoli sign for bridge deals at no more than 3 mill each, IF that. Neither are in a position of strength with the Kings for their next deals, and neither contract will be big judging on recent RFA signings.

Kings will be just fine.

If Boland can get 5 million Kopitar could get 8-9 million he's turning into an annual selke candidate he can get slighly over 8 million easily. While he probably would take a pay cut since he seems like a real team first player I'm just saying he could easily demand over 8 and it wouldn't seem that crazy. Still and Williams are as good as gone with Tyfoli getting a new contract and LA should also plan in advance for Pearson as well. Richards' contract could potentially turn into Heatley territory in terms of being detrimental to the team if he doesn't turn it around.

 

[VEGASKING]

Unless the league folds in the near future I'd say the Kings will win the cup again. OP didn't say when