Kings who could be traded this summer

[johnjm22]

lol, that would certainly spell the end of Blake's career in LA. In the end, rental players almost never get the return people hope for. The Kings have Kopitar this year. If they were going to acquire another $10M+ player, it is best to wait till the offseason and sign them then blow assets and further complicate a cap situation getting trickier by the month.

The Kings will need a #1 center soon and Byfield isn't inspiring much confidence that he'll get there though it is still possible. I still wouldn't have done it at the time, but it makes you wonder about the Eichel deal for Byfield that Blake was pondering before he went to Vegas.

I wouldn't hate it if Mathews some how ends up on the team, but obviously, that doesn't fix anything that is wrong with the team right now. It only addresses a future need that is on the not-too-distant horizon.

If he was traded here, I think there's a presumption that he would be extended by LA.

Matthews has always seemed very money motivated. Not saying most players aren't, but Matthews more so than most.

There's speculation he wants to be the highest paid player in the NHL. 13M+ cap hit. Hard pass on that.

 

[Peter James Bond II]

I'm just wondering when Blake is gonna make a move. It's gonna be after the draft and right before free agency when he tries to scramble to keep one our trades and will come up short.

I'd like to see Durzi for a 3rd? or even Iafallo for a 2nd? moved at or before the draft.
Try to get another 2nd round pick and clear some cap so Gavrikov can be signed, July 1.

It's time to get some size among forwards and deal 1 of: Iafallo, Moore or Arvidsson.
To me, Iafallo gets the most return..and too oft has 20 game streaks of poor production.
Moore will not get anything, after 10 goals and moving to a 4 mil deal....and Arvidsson
is the best candidate of the 3 to top 20 goals. Will need those 20+ goals.
Arvy was not on the PP as much as he should have been and I believe 30 goals is not
out of the question...into a contract yr as well. They would not get a lot for him, anyway.

With AI moved, free cap, move ARTY into top 9 and forever off line 4. Also, gets AI's PP spot.
Durzi and Walker must be moved. Clarke needs to play in NHL and not get injured in the AHL.
He'll be ready. He's too good.

 

[Sol]

If he was traded here, I think there's a presumption that he would be extended by LA.

Matthews has always seemed very money motivated. Not saying most players aren't, but Matthews more so than most.

There's speculation he wants to be the highest paid player in the NHL. 13M+ cap hit. Hard pass on that.

I can only see the Kings entertaining the Matthews idea because Byfield looks like he has a good potential to become a no-show, and Kopitar is at the verge of retirement. Kings need a successor and there’s no one on the team to do so.

Can easily see Blake swinging for the fences to save his job.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I can only see the Kings entertaining the Matthews idea because Byfield looks like he has a good potential to become a no-show, and Kopitar is at the verge of retirement. Kings need a successor and there’s no one on the team to do so.

Can easily see Blake swinging for the fences to save his job.

I think everyone here is a little worried we've entered the 'Full Dave Taylor' part of the Blake era.

 

[chris kontos]

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[FSL KINGS]

I think everyone here is a little worried we've entered the 'Full Dave Taylor' part of the Blake era.

The good news is he's stuck. Cap won't let him do anything too bad. Don't have any great prospects to worry about trading. He's not moving Clarke.

Unless Blake thinks he can win a cup in the next 2 years, the only move is to trade Doughty & build for the future. 37 year old Doughty making 11 doesn't seem like the way to win. Doughty turns 34 this year & doesn't have extra time for the team to turn around. Move him someplace he can win a cup, like Quick.

His own coach didn't even feel comfortable playing hockey in the playoffs the last 2 years with this team & turtled.

We're right back at trading Muzzin off after thinking bringing in Kovi was going to get the team back on track.

No way we see a panic trade for Gibson, hoping he finds his game, or a mega deal with Philly for Heart & Provolone after failing to sign Gavrikov. Maybe back up the truck for Hellebuyck.

EDIT: King's got stuck with Brown & Quick 1 year too long. Don't need to repeat that with Doughty.

 

[Sol]

I think everyone here is a little worried we've entered the 'Full Dave Taylor' part of the Blake era.

Yup. I think we’ve definitely entered that era from the panic trades he made. He made these trades because of his shortsightedness so he panicked.

Blake is undoubtedly in panic mode. No center, no goalie, and a stagnating team is unacceptable.

I can easily see Blake doing some really dumb moves to save his ass.

 

[2-4 Slashin]

6 playoff game wins since '14? I'm ok with some bruised egos.

Indeed!!

 

[2-4 Slashin]

Durzi and Walker do not move the needle towards playoff success. So yes they both get moved.

Questions I hope to hear opinions on.

Is Kailyev better here or as a trade asset? I think Fagemo may end up being the better prospect of that draft year.

I’m all in for for moving a mid range player. But I’m pondering the pros and cons over wether it’s Iafallo or Arvy!?

Do you move on from the glut of players we will never call up or do you keep them in Ontario as the glue that helps the kids develop? Are they really learning there?

Finally. How much more time do you give Byfield? I’m OK with holding onto him for next season with the hopes that this year helped him figure out some things. Is his trade value at its lowest point right now or are there teams that might see his potential and be willing to trade something or anything for him.


Asking for a friend

 

[Sol]

I think if you can move Moore and slot in JAD then it’d be a good cost effective move.

They really shouldn’t have extended Moore. A good third liner is not going to be hard to come by at that price.

 

[DoktorJeep]

Blake should do the absolute, bare minimum this offseason. The team will be better off if he stops trying to actively improve the roster.

Adios Edler, Gavrikov, Korpisalo.

Here’s your QO or arbitration award, or feel free to sit out the year:
JAD
Kupari
Vilardi
MacEwan
All the AHL guys

Copley penciled in for 47 games, Petersen / Villalta / Portillo split the rest.

Play the kids, make the playoffs, lose in the first round and build some actual hope.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

Yeah I’m no longer interested in seeing Blake pop a blood vessel trying to improve this team. 22/23 was as good as it was going to get with this core.

At this point the cap has caught up to him, and will significantly inhibit his ability to make more than a lateral move. Kopitar will surely be resigned somewhere around $7 million a year next summer. Blake will continue switching seats on the Titanic.

I don’t think this management nor coaching staff is capable of winning a championship, so I have very low expectations going forward. I’m much more interested in watching the development of Byfield, Vilardi, Clarke, Kaliyev, etc. because those are the players that the next regime will need to rebuild around.

 

[Mr Rogers]

Would you guys have any interest in Gibson? if so what would you be willing to give up? genuinely curious, not hoping we pawn him off to you guys lol

 

[Kurrilino]

Would you guys have any interest in Gibson? if so what would you be willing to give up? genuinely curious, not hoping we pawn him off to you guys lol

We have no space for a goalie, we try to get rid of some

 

[Kurrilino]

Yeah I’m no longer interested in seeing Blake pop a blood vessel trying to improve this team. 22/23 was as good as it was going to get with this core.

At this point the cap has caught up to him, and will significantly inhibit his ability to make more than a lateral move. Kopitar will surely be resigned somewhere around $7 million a year next summer. Blake will continue switching seats on the Titanic.

I don’t think this management nor coaching staff is capable of winning a championship, so I have very low expectations going forward. I’m much more interested in watching the development of Byfield, Vilardi, Clarke, Kaliyev, etc. because those are the players that the next regime will need to rebuild around.

I am asking for years to do exactly that.
Our core and coaching staff are going nowhere.

We need Byfield, Kupari and Villardi slotted in the top9 center positions with a very long leach
and lot's of playing time.
This is our only chance to have at least some hope for a future

 

[Kudelski37]

Would you guys have any interest in Gibson? if so what would you be willing to give up? genuinely curious, not hoping we pawn him off to you guys lol

Not me. Age, play, and contract all work against him.

 

[Little Psycho]

 

[Moses Doughty]

Depending on what else is involved, opens 5.625 million this year, 2.975 next year (Walker expires in 24, Provorov/Cal in 25)

 

[kingsfan28]

And they said Petersens contract couldn't be moved. HA!

And they said Petersens contract couldn't be moved. HA!

 

[Steve Zissou]

Columbus Blue Jackets acquire Ivan Provorov from Philadelphia Flyers in three-team deal | TSN

 

[FSL KINGS]

There's still more to come. Need another goalie obviously. If Gavrikov & Vilardi are both signed, the cap is going to be very tight & may require moving out another contract. Upfront there appears to be 1 too many forwards next year.

Iafallo, Kopi, Kempe
Moore, Danault, Arvidsson
Fiala, Byfield, Vilardi
Grundström, Lizotte, Kaliyev
Fagemo, JAD, Kupari

Byfield & Kaliyev are the only ones that don't have to go through waivers.

Probably Arvidsson, hope Vilardi doesn't price himself off the team.

 

[jimmy1100]

Ok, can I suggest another 3-team deal? Who says no? And don't hold back cause I'm not a GM and won't take it personally.

Boston - LA - Arizona

Boston gets: 2023 2nd and 3rd from ARZ; 2023 4th & Fagemo from LA; gains +4m cap space

LA gets: Vejmelka, gains +2.975 cap space

Arizona gets: DeBrusk and Swayman from BOS; Iafallo & Durzi from LA; loses -9.7m cap space (+ whatever Swayman gets)


(And to make it easier to look at)

Boston gives: DeBrusk, Swayman
LA gives: Iafallo, Durzi, 2023 4th
Arizona gives: Vejmelka, 2023 2nd, 2023 3rd

Boston gets a young, NHL-ready forward on a cheap contract and 3 draft picks.
LA gets a goalie and flexibility.
Arizona gets 4 quality players that, IMO, greatly improve the overall team.

While shedding these salaries helps Bos & LA, they aren't true cap dumps as all four are still very valuable players.

Thoughts?

 

[kinghock]

Ok, can I suggest another 3-team deal? Who says no? And don't hold back cause I'm not a GM and won't take it personally.

Boston - LA - Arizona

Boston gets: 2023 2nd and 3rd from ARZ; 2023 4th & Fagemo from LA; gains +4m cap space

LA gets: Vejmelka, gains +2.975 cap space

Arizona gets: DeBrusk and Swayman from BOS; Iafallo & Durzi from LA; loses -9.7m cap space (+ whatever Swayman gets)


(And to make it easier to look at)

Boston gives: DeBrusk, Swayman
LA gives: Iafallo, Durzi, 2023 4th
Arizona gives: Vejmelka, 2023 2nd, 2023 3rd

Boston gets a young, NHL-ready forward on a cheap contract and 3 draft picks.
LA gets a goalie and flexibility.
Arizona gets 4 quality players that, IMO, greatly improve the overall team.

While shedding these salaries helps Bos & LA, they aren't true cap dumps as all four are still very valuable players.

Thoughts?

I like it a lot

 

[Ollie Weeks]

I highly doubt Arizona is going to be taking on much money with their entire existence and future a question mark.

 

[bouncesonly]

Which then circles back to Durzi. Considering the Kings are probably better off keeping him on the right side, that means he’d only play part-time next season due to the emergence of Brandt Clarke. This largely leaves Durzi as the odd-man out and the logical trade chip when evaluating how to come up with some money for a goalie. Moving him also removes from some bite from the Kings lineup, so they’re right back to that lack of sandpaper thought from before.