KingsHockey24
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Injuries happen.
I wouldn't be surprised at some point during the season we have all three of Edmundson, Burroughs, and Englund in a game.
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I wouldn't be surprised at some point during the season we have all three of Edmundson, Burroughs, and Englund in a game.
Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
If by 'at some point during the season' you mean "opening night" then I agree
I practically f***in guarantee it, there's no way these guys can help themselves with ALL THOSE GUD BOY VETS just sitting right there next to Clarke and Spence
johnjm22
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Eddy Update:
86 defensive pairs have played at least 40min of TOI together. Edmundson-Clarke ranks 78th in xGF%
Remember Edmundson was brought in SPECIFICALLY to play with Clarke. You can see how that's working out.
To add insult to injury, Sean Walker and Brock Faber are on pairs ranked top 3 in the league.
LOL @ Darnell Nurse
86 defensive pairs have played at least 40min of TOI together. Edmundson-Clarke ranks 78th in xGF%
Remember Edmundson was brought in SPECIFICALLY to play with Clarke. You can see how that's working out.
To add insult to injury, Sean Walker and Brock Faber are on pairs ranked top 3 in the league.
| RANK | Player | Player 2 | Team | GP | TOI | xGF% |
1 | Shayne Gostisbehere | Sean Walker | CAR | 5 | 61.21667 | 79.33 |
2 | Vladislav Gavrikov | Mikey Anderson | L.A | 7 | 61.8 | 76.52 |
3 | Jonas Brodin | Brock Faber | MIN | 6 | 43.58333 | 74.59 |
4 | Adam Fox | K'Andre Miller | NYR | 6 | 84.18333 | 69.99 |
5 | Brett Kulak | Ty Emberson | EDM | 5 | 50.93333 | 66.14 |
6 | Filip Hronek | Quintin Hughes | VAN | 6 | 85.98333 | 66.02 |
7 | Christopher Tanev | Morgan Rielly | TOR | 7 | 77.2 | 65.64 |
8 | Jake Bean | Brayden Pachal | CGY | 5 | 59.85 | 63.58 |
9 | Mattias Ekholm | Evan Bouchard | EDM | 7 | 116.8333 | 63.29 |
10 | Jamie Oleksiak | Brandon Montour | SEA | 7 | 101.2833 | 62.37 |
11 | Calvin de Haan | COL | 6 | 64.76667 | 60.7 | |
12 | Jeremy Lauzon | Alexandre Carrier | NSH | 6 | 61.76667 | 59.28 |
13 | Colin Miller | Haydn Fleury | WPG | 4 | 47.55 | 59.04 |
14 | Esa Lindell | Nils Lundkvist | DAL | 7 | 58.16667 | 58.67 |
15 | Jacob Trouba | Braden Schneider | NYR | 6 | 85.9 | 58.3 |
16 | Erik Karlsson | Marcus Pettersson | PIT | 8 | 107.7167 | 57.15 |
17 | Jon Merrill | Declan Chisholm | MIN | 4 | 42.51667 | 56.87 |
18 | Dmitry Orlov | Jalen Chatfield | CAR | 5 | 72.63333 | 56.69 |
19 | Devon Toews | Cale Makar | COL | 3 | 45.73333 | 56.69 |
20 | Mike Reilly | Scott Mayfield | NYI | 6 | 68.03333 | 55.93 |
21 | Noah Dobson | Alexander Romanov | NYI | 6 | 94.9 | 55.74 |
22 | Moritz Seider | Simon Edvinsson | DET | 6 | 41.35 | 55.61 |
23 | John Carlson | Jakob Chychrun | WSH | 6 | 63.13333 | 55.6 |
24 | Henri Jokiharju | Rasmus Dahlin | BUF | 8 | 94.9 | 55.43 |
25 | Brent Burns | Jaccob Slavin | CAR | 5 | 73.06667 | 55.07 |
26 | Jacob Middleton | Brock Faber | MIN | 6 | 62.15 | 55.04 |
27 | Jonas Siegenthaler | Johnathan Kovacevic | N.J | 9 | 130.3833 | 54.76 |
28 | Aaron Ekblad | Gustav Forsling | FLA | 8 | 128.75 | 54.4 |
29 | Travis Sanheim | Cam York | PHI | 7 | 102.5667 | 54.38 |
30 | Brenden Dillon | Dougie Hamilton | N.J | 9 | 118.3167 | 54.2 |
31 | Mikhail Sergachev | Sean Durzi | UTA | 4 | 46.28333 | 54.09 |
32 | Seth Jones | Alex Vlasic | CHI | 7 | 57.73333 | 53.34 |
33 | Rasmus Andersson | Kevin Bahl | CGY | 6 | 88.13333 | 52.88 |
34 | Zach Werenski | Ivan Provorov | CBJ | 6 | 84.65 | 52.83 |
35 | Dylan Samberg | Neal Pionk | WPG | 6 | 93.03333 | 52.8 |
36 | Oliver Ekman-Larsson | Jake McCabe | TOR | 7 | 72.25 | 52.16 |
37 | Dmitry Kulikov | Niko Mikkola | FLA | 8 | 113.7667 | 51.67 |
38 | Victor Hedman | Janis Moser | T.B | 6 | 66.81667 | 50.98 |
39 | Hampus Lindholm | Brandon Carlo | BOS | 7 | 52.81667 | 50.6 |
40 | TJ Brodie | Alex Vlasic | CHI | 7 | 50.71667 | 50.51 |
41 | Connor Clifton | Mattias Samuelsson | BUF | 8 | 76.28333 | 50.36 |
42 | Matthew Benning | Henry Thrun | S.J | 5 | 49.61667 | 50.32 |
43 | Adam Pelech | Ryan Pulock | NYI | 6 | 92.43333 | 50.27 |
44 | Ryan McDonagh | Erik Cernak | T.B | 6 | 82.88333 | 49.91 |
45 | Ryan Graves | John St. Ivany | PIT | 6 | 67.15 | 49.74 |
46 | Damon Severson | Jacob Christiansen | CBJ | 6 | 69.88333 | 49.71 |
47 | Juuso Valimaki | Michael Kesselring | UTA | 7 | 43.06667 | 49.71 |
48 | Ryan Suter | Colton Parayko | STL | 7 | 62.03333 | 49.37 |
49 | Alec Martinez | Seth Jones | CHI | 4 | 53.38333 | 48.87 |
50 | Josh Manson | Samuel Girard | COL | 7 | 68.33333 | 48.41 |
51 | Justin Faulk | Philip Broberg | STL | 7 | 106.1167 | 47.75 |
52 | Miro Heiskanen | Thomas Harley | DAL | 7 | 57.15 | 47.49 |
53 | Darnell Nurse | Troy Stecher | EDM | 5 | 40.41667 | 47.46 |
54 | Mike Matheson | Justin Barron | MTL | 7 | 55.1 | 47.31 |
55 | Mikhail Sergachev | Michael Kesselring | UTA | 7 | 43.63333 | 46.73 |
56 | Brian Dumoulin | Pavel Mintyukov | ANA | 5 | 68.85 | 46.67 |
57 | Travis Hamonic | Jake Sanderson | OTT | 6 | 50.55 | 46.1 |
58 | Conor Timmins | Simon Benoit | TOR | 6 | 50.93333 | 45.82 |
59 | Adam Larsson | Vince Dunn | SEA | 4 | 50.05 | 45.51 |
60 | Kris Letang | Matt Grzelcyk | PIT | 8 | 101.5833 | 45.08 |
61 | Nick Leddy | Colton Parayko | STL | 4 | 66.65 | 45.08 |
62 | Cody Ceci | Jake Walman | S.J | 7 | 89.9 | 44.85 |
63 | William Borgen | Ryker Evans | SEA | 7 | 68.75 | 44.46 |
64 | Nikita Zadorov | Charlie McAvoy | BOS | 7 | 42.61667 | 43.99 |
65 | Trevor van Riemsdyk | Rasmus Sandin | WSH | 6 | 58.3 | 43.22 |
66 | Connor Murphy | Wyatt Kaiser | CHI | 6 | 54.96667 | 43.17 |
67 | Nate Schmidt | Adam Boqvist | FLA | 6 | 45.71667 | 43.17 |
68 | Zac Jones | NYR | 4 | 52.45 | 42.96 | |
69 | Rasmus Ristolainen | Yegor Zamula | PHI | 7 | 58.63333 | 42.94 |
70 | Bowen Byram | Owen Power | BUF | 8 | 95.58333 | 41.93 |
71 | Andrew Peeke | BOS | 6 | 40.35 | 41.44 | |
72 | Ian Cole | Juuso Valimaki | UTA | 7 | 45.48333 | 41.19 |
73 | Alex Pietrangelo | Shea Theodore | VGK | 6 | 90.93333 | 41.16 |
74 | Dylan DeMelo | Josh Morrissey | WPG | 6 | 100.0167 | 39.83 |
75 | Brayden McNabb | Zach Whitecloud | VGK | 7 | 88.36667 | 39.35 |
76 | Nick Jensen | Thomas Chabot | OTT | 6 | 77.28333 | 38.23 |
77 | MacKenzie Weegar | Daniil Miromanov | CGY | 5 | 71.91667 | 38.11 |
78 | Joel Edmundson | Brandt Clarke | L.A | 5 | 54.23333 | 37.23 |
79 | Tyler Myers | Carson Soucy | VAN | 6 | 64.9 | 36.54 |
80 | Noah Hanifin | Nicolas Hague | VGK | 7 | 91.16667 | 36.19 |
81 | Zach Bogosian | Jonas Brodin | MIN | 6 | 59.6 | 35.77 |
82 | Cam Fowler | ANA | 5 | 64.66667 | 35.08 | |
83 | Ben Chiarot | Moritz Seider | DET | 6 | 54.41667 | 34.43 |
84 | Mario Ferraro | Jan Rutta | S.J | 7 | 90.95 | 29.86 |
85 | Simon Nemec | N.J | 8 | 60.38333 | 27.96 | |
86 | Darnell Nurse | Travis Dermott | EDM | 4 | 46.7 | 27.06 |
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LOL @ Darnell Nurse
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It’s still our 2nd best pairing.
Sample size is everything with these stats and the experts on here didn’t want Ghost or Walker (neither did I) and there’s little chance they are #1 when the sample size is more meaningful.
Bandit
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Small sample or large sample, shit is still shit.
Chazz Reinhold
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tigermask48
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Because John's minimum TOI was 40 min, yours is 34. Englund and Spence have only played 36 mins together thus they don't appear on his list.
This isn’t exactly news.
Edmundson has never been an analytical darling, even at his very best. He was brought in for a niche skill set, and it ain’t to polish the fancy stats.
I don’t like the signing, but that’s an entirely different can of worms.
Edmundson has never been an analytical darling, even at his very best. He was brought in for a niche skill set, and it ain’t to polish the fancy stats.
I don’t like the signing, but that’s an entirely different can of worms.
Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
While I agree with that the sight of him 'defending' by spinning like a top or taking a stick foul looks even worse than the analytics
I think like the others he's settling in too and will mostly end up fine, just overpaid, but early returns are hahahahahahahahahaha
Edit: i should be clear I have zero problem with him taking an actual roughing/crosscheck against people in our goalie's airspace but the 'chasing the game' calls are what have me miffed.
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Based on the listed presented… I didn’t investigate further as it carries little value at this point…. And I’m busy. Lol.
lumbergh
It was an idea. I didn't say it was a good idea.
In terms of actual results, the Clarke-Edmundson pairing has been literally the worst pairing in the league.
0 goals for, 4 goals against in 54 minutes together 5vs5.
The Kings might consider bringing in Burroughs to pair with Clarke. Much better results.
2 goals for, 0 goals against in 3 minutes together 5vs5
Obviously, small sample size, blah blah blah. This much we know: the Clarke-Edmundson pairing sucks.
0 goals for, 4 goals against in 54 minutes together 5vs5.
The Kings might consider bringing in Burroughs to pair with Clarke. Much better results.
2 goals for, 0 goals against in 3 minutes together 5vs5
Obviously, small sample size, blah blah blah. This much we know: the Clarke-Edmundson pairing sucks.
Lt Dan
F*** your ice cream!
poor brant clarke coming to this shithole of an organization that total and complete goal is to bury him as to control costs.
they were never going to be able to do it with durzi, faber and walker so they shipped them.
ah tradition
tigermask48
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I am shocked, shocked I tell you, that this management group would make such a gross miscalculation when evaluating whether a player would be a good fit for the role they give him...
*starts brand new folder because the other one is overflowing with evidence of this exact thing.
*starts brand new folder because the other one is overflowing with evidence of this exact thing.
bland
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Edmundson isn't there to make the Kings better, he is there to insulate a kid who is a lot rougher around the edges than most understood.
I think a lot of you guys are losing the plot here. Its okay to lose games due to inexperienced players struggling. The problem is that this process should have started two years ago so we could have kept Faber and Vilardi plus the picks spent in a multitude of transactions while the blue chippers get their lumps in and out of the way.
Anybody expecting the Kings to be a good team this year is going to be disappointed. Success this season will be measured in progress for the future, not in chasing a playoff whooping.
Lt Dan
F*** your ice cream!
lumbergh
It was an idea. I didn't say it was a good idea.
Edmundson is doing a good job of not making the Kings better. He's not doing a good job of insulating Clarke. Burroughs is a tough customer himself and probably a better defense partner.
This is partially true. But they signed him for too much and too long for it to be the only reason.
This is a player Blake tried to get before Clarke was even drafted.
This is a player Bergevin brought in to his last organization.
They 100% think Edmundson will make the Kings better.
Step 1: Tell Clarke he doesn't belong in the NHL for two seasons because he has to work on his defensive game.
Step 2: Staple Clarke to a complete anchor.
Step 3: Scratch head and eat belly button lint when Clarke struggles.
Step 2: Staple Clarke to a complete anchor.
Step 3: Scratch head and eat belly button lint when Clarke struggles.
