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[tomd]

Yeah but he’s not doing a good job at it. I doubt ownership also told him to draft poorly.

I'm not a Blake apologist but two 100 point years in a row is overshadowing the drafting issues. Acquiring PLD will further overshadow them. Getting out of the 1st round is going to be necessary next year though.

 

[Kingspiracy]

Really hope the PLD trade happens. The meltdown will be so much fun.

Ha me too.

Im suprised how everyone jumps on his character issues.

We've had some right characters during our cup runs, Richard(smuggling) Stoll (supplying) Voynov (wife bashing) Carter (petulant princess) Mitchell was accused of some unsavoury behaviour recently. I heard much loved Brown even kicked his dog once!

If you dont like his game or effort, fair enough, but he is undoubtedly talented, big, somewhat physical and plays a pretty valuable position. Its the coaches job to focus and motivate players, let them worry about his drive if we get him.

Vilardi is the obvious swap piece, as much as everyone seems to hate it. Great hands and vision, but often injured and not particularily physical for a big boy.

If there is any sort of hang up in Gabes contract, I'd move him for the jets lad (if you can get him signed for under 7.5)

 

[Sol]

I'm not a Blake apologist but two 100 point years in a row is overshadowing the drafting issues. Acquiring PLD will further overshadow them. Getting out of the 1st round is going to be necessary next year though.

Not really. I don’t think the management is that stupid to see that this team that went through a rebuild is relying on the players from the previous rebuild.

Even at job interviews they don’t just ask what you’ve done they ask you how you did it. 100 pts yeah but how is the devil in the details.
Blake has built a team that is bound to fail.

 

[tomd]

Not really. I don’t think the management is that stupid to see that this team that went through a rebuild is relying on the players from the previous rebuild.

Even at job interviews they don’t just ask what you’ve done they ask you how you did it. 100 pts yeah but how is the devil in the details.
Blake has built a team that is bound to fail.

I think you are giving ownership too much credit but we'll see.

 

[Sol]

I think you are giving ownership too much credit but we'll see.

I know they’re stupid but they’re not that stupid. You don’t become wealthy by being morons for the most part.

 

[Surf Nutz]

Blake will definitely get canned soon which is the only bright spot

Blake will not get canned .
TMac may not be renewed

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He will need better than a first round exit by then or he may not be renewed aft 24/25.
Blake made the playoffs 2 years in a row. Making changes to improve playoff success & y'all think his buddy Luc is canning him? Ok Also, Luc is the one trying to convince Dubious on LA.

He does things that are frustrating. Just don't see how he's remotely on the hot seat.

Vilardi: what do we hope he turns into? A defensively responsible right shot, RW that might eventually put up 30+ goals & 70+ points? So a Tyler Toffoli.
How much does that cost on the cap?
Will he ever play C at a Danault level?
King's have lots of wing prospects.
Road nearing its end for Vilardi.

after this season, and Blake will be on his last gasp with a new coach .
He will need better than a first round exit by then or he may not be renewed after 24/25.

Vilardi' road ending?
No way!
He is going to arbitration because the contention about how often he is injured.
Blake is going to make him prove he can stay healthy more.
If not I would trade him but not until he is pending UFA.
Or he has an imminent long term health setback emerging.
If Vilardi can prove he can play a full season and the playoffs he will get a better contract than this summer in the future and stay with the Kings.
Or the Kinks as they should be know right now, as someone said.

 

[Surf Nutz]

Yeah but he’s not doing a good job at it. I doubt ownership also told him to draft poorly.

Didn't he draft success stories?
Kempe
Vilardi
Clarke
Anderson at 103
Spence in rd. 2
Pinelli
Chromiak
Helenius
?

 

[jgs]

Blake made the playoffs 2 years in a row. Making changes to improve playoff success & y'all think his buddy Luc is canning him? Ok Also, Luc is the one trying to convince Dubious on LA.

He does things that are frustrating. Just don't see how he's remotely on the hot seat.

Vilardi: what do we hope he turns into? A defensively responsible right shot, RW that might eventually put up 30+ goals & 70+ points? So a Tyler Toffoli.
How much does that cost on the cap?
Will he ever play C at a Danault level?
King's have lots of wing prospects.
Road nearing its end for Vilardi.

Wow, Vilardi is putting up points, has scored big time goals and you state he is reaching his end. Wonder what u think about Turckot.

 

[Schrute farms]

It’s Turcotte - why is it so hard for some to spell our guy’s name. Smh

 

[Surf Nutz]

It’s Turcotte - why is it so hard for some to spell our guy’s name. Smh

Father's Day - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[jgs]

It’s Turcotte - why is it so hard for some to spell our guy’s name. Smh

I'm terrible at spelling names.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Ha me too.

Im suprised how everyone jumps on his character issues.

We've had some right characters during our cup runs, Richard(smuggling) Stoll (supplying) Voynov (wife bashing) Carter (petulant princess) Mitchell was accused of some unsavoury behaviour recently. I heard much loved Brown even kicked his dog once!

If you dont like his game or effort, fair enough, but he is undoubtedly talented, big, somewhat physical and plays a pretty valuable position. Its the coaches job to focus and motivate players, let them worry about his drive if we get him.

Vilardi is the obvious swap piece, as much as everyone seems to hate it. Great hands and vision, but often injured and not particularily physical for a big boy.

If there is any sort of hang up in Gabes contract, I'd move him for the jets lad (if you can get him signed for under 7.5)

And every one of those guys was consistently ferocious on the ice.

PLD dogs it about 75% of every season going back to juniors.

It's not just smoke about his character off ice, it's his petulant sulking on it.

 

[Kingspiracy]

And every one of those guys was consistently ferocious on the ice.

PLD dogs it about 75% of every season going back to juniors.

It's not just smoke about his character off ice, it's his petulant sulking on it.

He puts up pretty sexy point totals for a guy that dogs it 75% of the time.

Imagine what he could achieve if the coach can get through to him or if he grows up.

 

[FSL KINGS]

Wow, Vilardi is putting up points, has scored big time goals and you state he is reaching his end. Wonder what u think about Turckot.

Like Vilardi, he finally showed he might be an NHL'er. King's are against the cap & without a 1st & 2 RD dealt in the last year, probably the best trade chip.

Turcotte: He's injured until he can skate 20 NHL games in a row. Too bad, lots of potential. No point in trading because he has no value. One more year of being exempt from waivers.

Glad we dodged Zebras. That guy has something wrong with him judging by that meltdown in the last game against the Ducks.

 

[johnjm22]

PLD's 5v5 P/60 rates in Winnipeg:

22-23 1.78
21-22 1.66
20-21 1.24

These numbers are not very good. An above average chunk of his points come off the PP. Almost half his goals since being traded to the Jets have been on the PP.

His career FO% is 44.8%. Also not good.

When he was with CBJ he was an excellent in his second season. Aside from that, I'm not very impressed.

He certainly has potential though. If you're trading for him, you're hoping his game pops from the change of scenery and he matures. It's a big gamble though.

 

[deaderhead28]

Really hope the PLD trade happens. The meltdown will be so much fun.

 

[deaderhead28]

Unlikely given that he is almost certainly executing the strategy that ownership is demanding.

Bingo! Winner winner chicken dinner, most fans don't understand this. Blake's not getting fired.

 

[kingsfan28]

Save the dough, buy a new 4th line.

 

[KINGS17]

Babe Ruth or no deal!

Yes, and AEG will throw in financing for your Broadway show.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

He puts up pretty sexy point totals for a guy that dogs it 75% of the time.

Imagine what he could achieve if the coach can get through to him or if he grows up.

So we're circling back around to 'hope is the strategy,' but by putting a guy on a team whose development strategies are questionable.

Not much of a relief, I'm afraid.

 

[chris kontos]

I know they’re stupid but they’re not that stupid. You don’t become wealthy by being morons for the most part.

please see luc robitaille.

 

[Kingspiracy]

So we're circling back around to 'hope is the strategy,' but by putting a guy on a team whose development strategies are questionable.

Not much of a relief, I'm afraid.

Nothings a sure thing in sports. Are we not all hoping that gabe can play more than 60 games a season?

I know Vilardi appears to be on the rise but if Blake doesnt at least look into that trade, he isnt doing his job.

He is only about a year or two older, has 4 20 goal seasons to gabes 1, has played 400 + games to gabes 150 (including 3 seasons of over 80 games.)

Unless he is a complete f***wit its worth looking at.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Nothings a sure thing in sports. Are we not all hoping that gabe can play more than 60 games a season?

I know Vilardi appears to be on the rise but if Blake doesnt at least look into that trade, he isnt doing his job.

He is only about a year or two older, has 4 20 goal seasons to gabes 1, has played 400 + games to gabes 150 (including 3 seasons of over 80 games.)

Unless he is a complete f***wit its worth looking at.

I agree, it makes sense to look at from a number of perspectives, including the 'lottery pick big guy enigma' factor between him and Byfield.

I'm just saying upon a deeper look it makes very little sense at all.

Vilardi is a 'free' asset relatively, as is Byfield, gambling on PLD to suddenly want to settle down here AND figure it (identity, consistency, DRIVE) out after years of trying to get to MTL and being a malcontent at every stop going back to juniors to go along with uneven selfish play is just a risk so, so dumb to take, especially if you passed on Eichel for similar concerns.

I hope it's just Blake doing his due diligence. I concur it would be dumb to NOT at least window shop.

 

[Kingspiracy]

I agree, it makes sense to look at from a number of perspectives, including the 'lottery pick big guy enigma' factor between him and Byfield.

I'm just saying upon a deeper look it makes very little sense at all.

Vilardi is a 'free' asset relatively, as is Byfield, gambling on PLD to suddenly want to settle down here AND figure it (identity, consistency, DRIVE) out after years of trying to get to MTL and being a malcontent at every stop going back to juniors to go along with uneven selfish play is just a risk so, so dumb to take, especially if you passed on Eichel for similar concerns.

I hope it's just Blake doing his due diligence. I concur it would be dumb to NOT at least window shop.

I thought the concern with Eichel was his bionic spine, not his attitude.

Blake is hopefully in a position to make an informed decision. He knows what $ vilardi wants, he knows his medical history (is it spondalitis, or whatever the f*** it was, or cant the guy play with a broken nail).

He must know his plans at center (is Byfield on schedule, does he see vilardi there or on the wing)

He can also talk to other execs and former team mates to get an idea of how much of a headcase Pld is.

I wouldnt move Byfield, but if it was close to a swap with vilardi, id be tempted.

 

[johnjm22]

I wouldnt move Byfield, but if it was close to a swap with vilardi, id be tempted.

I think if it's Vilardi, then it's going to be Vilardi plus more assets, because PLD has more of a proven track record.

And that's part of the problem. Also Gabe's cap hit will be much lower than PLD's.