Kings apologize for selling Turkish-made scarves on Armenian Night

[D Wakaluk]

Please stick to hockey. Don't speculate

a concerned citizen

 

[Big McLargehuge]

Ooof. That's a rough one. Good on the Kings for owning up to the mistake. Definitely an innocent mistake, but one that likely caused some consternation.

The Armenian Genocide is definitely not something I was ever taught in school. Hell, the entirety of World War I got about 2 weeks...and the bulk of that was on the Americans involvement in it. I think I learned more about WW1 by the existence of the band Franz Ferdinand than I did from school...
It didn't take long after moving to LA for me to learn about it. It's been said plenty, but the Armenian population here is larger than anywhere other than Armenia.

Germany had a reckoning for their war crimes and there are laws against denying it. Türkiye has made denial a key component of their national identity and politics. We need to stop comparing apples to oranges in that regard.

 

[kicksavedave]

Admitting you don't know something is often the first step to learning something new. Other times, it's admitting you're wrong about something. Either one works. We should do it more often.

It was easy for me to admit I didn't know They Might Be Giants didn't write that song about Istanbul.



(I already knew about the Armenian Genocide, because I'm slightly curious about the world and its history, and its free and takes like 4 minutes to read a wiki page)

 

[luiginb]

Thread title reads like a Babylon Bee headline

It does seem like their kind of low brow humour

 

[luiginb]

When you need people to tell you why it is an issue, than it must not be that great of an issue. I'm old enough, heard of lots of overseas troubles/issues, and never heard of this.

Ignorance isn't the flex you think it is

 

[rynryn]

It was easy for me to admit I didn't know They Might Be Giants didn't write that song about Istanbul.



(I already knew about the Armenian Genocide, because I'm slightly curious about the world and its history, and its free and takes like 4 minutes to read a wiki page)

tmbg didn't write that?!
childhood ruined.

 

[Bear of Bad News]

This version of Birdhouse in Your Soul should cheer everyone up:


Doc Severinsen and the house band really make this work double good.

 

[Oddbob]

Ignorance isn't the flex you think it is

Wasn't a flex!

 

[Jay26]

I understand why the Armenian-Americans would be upset. That being said, from the article, it just means the other 99% of the other scarves produced are supplied-by, approved-by, and paid-to the Turkish manufacturer by the NHL teams anyways.

I know this might sound indifferent or insensitive, but (as the child of an immigrant family myself) I do wish people who emigrated to (insert any country here) to escape the strife and struggles and deep-seated issues of their homelands would eventually learn to leave it behind. You (or your family/ancestors) left there for a reason; perhaps it was against their will or desire at the time, but they wanted a better life in a place free from those specific problems and made a great sacrifice in doing so.

I understand there's a history of struggle and prejudice but if you hold it forever, it will do you no good and investing in those old bitter issues in the new country and lifestyle you're a part of now only serves to hurt, not harm. The Turkish people now are not the ones who have done the Armenian-Americans harm.

TL;DR Forgive, but don't forget. But I understand it's not that easy. Also sorry to the mods because it'll probably get political and that wasn't my intention.


Comment of the Year 2025 nominee, category: Comedy, Throwaway Comment

Non insensitive at all. In fact it's sensible and mature. It means not having the perpetual mindset of a college protester.

 

[Devonator]

Good on the Kings for doing this...if anyone knows the Armenian history and masscres of their people at the hand of the Ottomans, they would understand why this mistake would be so grevious to the Armenian peoples.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Imagine renaming the Queen City of the world "the city" smh.

It's still better than Dicktown

 

[Enniskillen]

It’s Turkiye now, not Turkey.

 

[Bondurant]

The apology is fine. When I think of getting a scarf "Is this made in Turkey" isn't the first thing that crosses your mind and I guarantee it was not on Kings minds either.

I would check but only because I know a lot of scarves are made in Turkey because of soccer scarves I own.

 

[Beerz]

I bet it was a white dude named Sam that caught this and blew it up.

 

[GMR]

Ooof. That's a rough one. Good on the Kings for owning up to the mistake. Definitely an innocent mistake, but one that likely caused some consternation.

The Armenian Genocide is definitely not something I was ever taught in school. Hell, the entirety of World War I got about 2 weeks...and the bulk of that was on the Americans involvement in it. I think I learned more about WW1 by the existence of the band Franz Ferdinand than I did from school...
It didn't take long after moving to LA for me to learn about it. It's been said plenty, but the Armenian population here is larger than anywhere other than Armenia.

Germany had a reckoning for their war crimes and there are laws against denying it. Türkiye has made denial a key component of their national identity and politics. We need to stop comparing apples to oranges in that regard.

That’s because the world powers brought Germany to their knees after the war. Turkey has never had to answer for it.

 

[redbeardtx]

I bet it was a white dude named Sam that caught this and blew it up.

Nah, had to be a Cayden or Skyler

 

[Crow]

It’s Turkiye now, not Turkey.

Republic of Türkiye?

 

[HTFN]

Of course, but how would you know? Someone would have to actually go looking for that information, when all they’re actually doing is placing a work order with a supplier.

Try? Like, just a little bit?

Is it a wild ask for people to bother to figure out where they source their products from?

 

[OilersFanatics505]

Try? Like, just a little bit?

Is it a wild ask for people to bother to figure out where they source their products from?

If it’s apart of the leagues approved vendors? No? It’s not something you’d think about. Especially if it’s not something you’re aware of.

 

[DrunkTurtle]

Armenian night, seriously?

 

[tarheelhockey]

Try? Like, just a little bit?

Is it a wild ask for people to bother to figure out where they source their products from?

Yeah, it actually is a strange ask in the context of ordering supplies at work.

 

[Quinning]

I remembering being a kid and doing the "Chinese, Japanese" joke with my eyes in class. So the teacher told us about Nanjing (at a very high level). That was a sobering experience.

Some things are never forgotten between cultures.

 

[Bear of Bad News]

Armenian night, seriously?

Yes, seriously. Per the original post, "the Los Angeles area is home to the largest Armenian community outside of Armenia."

Anyhow, the night clearly wasn't intended for you, so I wouldn't worry about it.

But yes, seriously.