Kingdom Come; Deliverance
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Unholy Diver
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I didn't really grasp the combat of the first one too well and threw in the towel not terribly far in, it just didn't click for me. The Witcher on the other hand I thought was extremely straight forward and put in 100+ hours into it twice, I guess it depends how patient your friend wants to be, as there is less hand holding in the Kingdom Come games than the Witchers and Skyrims of the world
Khelandros
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There is a learning curve, which can be pretty steep at times. Fights can take anywhere from a couple of hits to a few minutes depending on skill.
But luckily there are numerous places in game to go practice and get better. It doesn't hold your hand but it will help you get better with trainers that show you how to fight and how to get better at fighting.
The thing I loved about combat in the first one and this one is it's not just spam the attack button and land hits. You have to plan and strategize like you would in real life.
Rodgerwilco
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I sooooo wanted to get into this game, but for some reason I just couldn't... Taking on a new open world RPG just feels like such an undertaking these days, I just end up back on Runescape and/or Red Dead lol.
Unholy Diver
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Is it pretty much the same combat system as the first one? Looking at the walkthrough, it looks like I probably cashed out a quest or two after the one where you do your sword training, which I just squeaked by
Mr Fahrenheit
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I remember a sword you could get in an ancient map in KCD that had the highest stab in the game, so you can get it pretty early and its a shortsword. With how quick you can get stabs off, combat was super easy. Just had to do some blocks then counter with a fast stab and with how high the damage was it only took a few stabs to kill, if that many
Khelandros
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Pretty much, but smoother.
Thing to remember is that Henry is terrible with a sword, even after doing the training. You need to improve your skill with weapons to get good at it. Like you could ace the training but then your skill level will be too low and things will still kill you in three or four shots.
Blender
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KCD has a very steep learning curve. KCD2 is not as steep though there still is one.
In KCD you are the son of a blacksmith and are an illiterate lump of meat who can't really do anything. If you want to be skilled at something, you need to work at it. In KCD2 you start with a baseline level of skill and can jump into things much smoother because of that.
For both though, it's very important to note that in KCD you are not a saviour or the chosen one, you're not the lone hero character. If you try and play the game that way like most open world RPGs, you'll be punished severely for it.
Andrei79
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I wouldn't say dumb. Those kinds of games aren't for everyone. But, Witcher 3 is a very casual experience compared to KCD. KCD is a medieval life simulator. The first few hours a lot of people just end up dying of starvation or from bandits. Or from the guards. Its unforgiving and the save system is terrible if you don't mod the game.
Bocephus86
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My first playthrough of KCD I was still getting kill by random ambushes late game. Granted I learned later that I wasn't using alchemy right, traveling at night was scary, and I did not take advantage of training enough. Plus I used a helmet with a face guard and I'd lose track of guys with my periphery cut off.
You can get over powered, to those that haven't played, but that might give you some insight to the game.
It was one of the best gaming experiences I've ever had.
Bocephus86
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Finally started playing middle of last week. I'm on a sabbatical so I have a lot of free time. I have like 30 hours in so far, absolutely love it. It is a more polished KCD1 cranked up to 11. There are small tweaks, but they didn't remove anything from the first game, and just added in more great stuff along the same lines (Blacksmithing is a guilty pleasure of mine).
If you liked KCD1, you probably already own this, but if you don't, buy it and play it immediately.
To anyone else, I strongly suggest it. The character progression is off the charts so just prepare yourself that you will be weak and vulnerable for much of the early game, and will never be so over powered you can breeze through late game like a Skyrim. I'm a sucker for RPG (light) open world games, and this one hits like crack. It's the best one I've played since The Witcher 3.
Edit: Also, be careful with thievery. I was in for a surprise when someone saw me being shady around a locked door. I left the area then went back shortly after and robbed it. As I snuck out I heard the NPC notice that their stuff was missing but I was gone. Next time I came to town they recognized me as the creeper and I still had the loot on me. Whoops! Off to the stockade.
If you liked KCD1, you probably already own this, but if you don't, buy it and play it immediately.
To anyone else, I strongly suggest it. The character progression is off the charts so just prepare yourself that you will be weak and vulnerable for much of the early game, and will never be so over powered you can breeze through late game like a Skyrim. I'm a sucker for RPG (light) open world games, and this one hits like crack. It's the best one I've played since The Witcher 3.
Edit: Also, be careful with thievery. I was in for a surprise when someone saw me being shady around a locked door. I left the area then went back shortly after and robbed it. As I snuck out I heard the NPC notice that their stuff was missing but I was gone. Next time I came to town they recognized me as the creeper and I still had the loot on me. Whoops! Off to the stockade.
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flyersnorth
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Depends on what you want out of a gaming experience.
I absolutely love KCD1 so far (about 20 hours in). I don't enjoy games with lots of hand holding, save scumming, maps littered with icons. I can't believe I waited this long to play it.
The Witcher 3, I did not enjoy. I love the books, the lore, and really enjoyed the first few seasons of the show, but the game never really clicked with me. I restarted multiple times over the years, and just don't enjoy the combat and general mechanics of the game.
So it really comes down to what clicks with you and what doesn't. If you enjoy the idea behind KCD1, and like games that challenge you, games that you need to put in a decent amount of time to understand and figure out, you'd probably enjoy KCD.
Andrei79
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I've just started the second map and my god it's even more brilliant than the first one. What a tour de force by Warhorse. I feel spoiled having BG3 and KCD2.
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Dubi Doo
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Seems so interesting, but not sure it's the type of game for me. I lose interest in open world games. Cyber Punk is starting to bore me, and I'm only 10 hours in. May have to wait until it goes down in price, which probably won't be for a long time.
pistolpete11
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I'm in the same boat. I like the idea of it more than I'd actually like playing it.
But FYI, the first game is currently $7.49 on the PS store. Even full price it's only $30. From what I've read, the second one improves it, but it still plays the same more or less.
PeteWorrell
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I have lost interest in open world games that use the Ubisoft model of maps that are too big filled with generic missions and climbable towers.
I very much still like open world games like Kingdom Come: Deliverance because of the immersion and the RPG elements. You can actually influence the world and it's characters instead of just being a passenger.
I very much still like open world games like Kingdom Come: Deliverance because of the immersion and the RPG elements. You can actually influence the world and it's characters instead of just being a passenger.
Takeahnase
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Really digging the sequel. Here is a fun mission I captured featuring combat if that’s what yer on the fence about.
