Kingdom Come; Deliverance
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What's the link with New Vegas. Played it for the first time last year and have been looking for a similar game ever since :p
Mikeaveli
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Basically online grifters are attempting to convince people this game is bad because there is an option to have your character engage in a gay romance. Meanwhile New Vegas had the same options 15 years ago and not a single person thought it was a bad thing
. Thankfully they seem to have failed miserably.If you like New Vegas you will probably like this series, lots of choice in how you play which is rare these days.
Romang67
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Might get it as a relaxation game. Never did get much past the part of the first game where I made a fairly lucrative business out of leaving early in the morning to go hunting and then sell the skins. I hear you can do blacksmithing and alchemy in this game too.
PeteWorrell
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The internet was a very different place when they released New Vegas. There is too much brain rot now from too many people looking for reasons to be angry and outraged.Basically online grifters are attempting to convince people this game is bad because there is an option to have your character engage in a gay romance. Meanwhile New Vegas had the same options 15 years ago and not a single person thought it was a bad thing
If you like New Vegas you will probably like this series, lots of choice in how you play which is rare these days.
Osprey
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I just read through the negative reviews on Steam and it sounds like the complaints aren't as simple as that. They don't like that Henry and Hans seem to have sexual tension and can have a gay romance even though both were straight in the first game (and, in fact, one of the DLCs was all about Henry helping Hans pursue a girl). Changing the sexual preference of existing characters that players have spent of lot of time with is a little different than making all new characters that can swing either way, like in New Vegas. They also feel that all of the references to homosexuality in just the first 10 hours don't really fit the historical time period, in which it wasn't talked about openly because it was strongly stigmatized and punished. Again, that's a little different than when the setting is futuristic, like in New Vegas. Anyways, less than 10% of the negative reviews bring those things up, and less than 10% of all of the reviews are negative, meaning less than 1% of reviewers care about them, so it doesn't seem like a big issue.Basically online grifters are attempting to convince people this game is bad because there is an option to have your character engage in a gay romance. Meanwhile New Vegas had the same options 15 years ago and not a single person thought it was a bad thing
Speaking of the game doing well...
Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 sells 1 million copies in its first 24 hours, and Metacritic clocks it as the highest-rated game of 2025 so far
A strong start for Warhorse Studios' RPG sequel
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Hans Capon is sleeping around in the first game. There is no implied homosexuality but i don't think it's out of character to find out that he is sexually adventurous to the point where he would like to try sleeping with a man.I just read through the negative reviews on Steam and it sounds like the complaints aren't as simple as that. They don't like that Henry and Hans seem to have sexual tension and can have a gay romance even though both were straight in the first game (and, in fact, one of the DLCs was all about Henry helping Hans pursue a girl). Changing the sexual preference of existing characters that players have spent of lot of time with is a little different than making all new characters that can swing either way, like in New Vegas. They also feel that all of the references to homosexuality in just the first 10 hours don't really fit the historical time period, in which it wasn't talked about openly because it was strongly stigmatized and punished. Again, that's a little different than when the setting is futuristic, like in New Vegas. Anyways, less than 10% of the negative reviews bring those things up, and less than 10% of all of the reviews are negative, meaning less than 1% of reviewers care about them, so it doesn't seem like a big issue.
Speaking of the game doing well...
Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 sells 1 million copies in its first 24 hours, and Metacritic clocks it as the highest-rated game of 2025 so far
A strong start for Warhorse Studios' RPG sequelwww.gamesradar.com
The first game also has plenty of moments that would be considered heretical and it's up to your Henry to decide how he deals with it. I mean, the local parish priest has a concubine living with him and he gets drunk at the local tavern without it being a secret. But i guess that wasn't a problem because there was no optional homosexuality.
Osprey
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Have you ever heard of guys who like to sleep around with women suddenly deciding to sleep with their guy friends, instead? I think that you don't because it'd be wildly out of character. Even if you can explain Hans being up for it, though, you'd have to explain Henry being up for it, as well.
Dragon Age: Origins, Fallout: New Vegas and, more recently, Baldur's Gate III, all having gay romance options and still being universally beloved games suggests that the issue here isn't optional homosexuality, but how it fits into the story and setting.
PeteWorrell
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Yes? Some people are either in denial or they realize that they swing both ways. Welcome to life.
There is obviously not going to be historical evidence or very little of it in an era where the clergy controlled the narrative. It obviously still happened and many got away with it because they had the means to buy the silence of certain people.
The Crypto Guy
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Nobody even cares aside from a super small majority. Wish we were actually talking about the game here.
Osprey
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If you didn't play the first game, the first 8 hours were sort of a tutorial in which you had to do what the story told you, and then it opened up and you got the freedom to do what you wanted. I believe that I read that only the first 3 hours of the sequel are like that.
For anyone wondering if you need to have played the first game, I've read that you don't.
I was worried about starting Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 without playing the first RPG, but the opening hour proved I didn't need to be
Now Playing | Worried about starting Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 without playing the first game? As a newbie, take it from me – you don't need to be
Osprey
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For PC users wondering exactly what kind of performance to expect with various GPUs:
He makes a good point that it doesn't have ray tracing or cutting edge graphics, but most people don't seem to care as long as the gameplay is good and it runs well.
He makes a good point that it doesn't have ray tracing or cutting edge graphics, but most people don't seem to care as long as the gameplay is good and it runs well.
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I see people attributing the outrage to a vocal minority but I couldn’t disagree more, it’s actually the mainstream that really dislikes this stuff and we can see in the news that game devs are phasing this out, if you doubt that the viral clips of Veilguards dialogue didn’t hurt its sales I don’t know what to tell you. They fired every single writer on the game. I think it’s just a testament of how longs games take to develop that all this stuff that is almost a death sentence to a game if not a very strong turnoff is still appearing in games, because this was set in stone in 2020 and 2021.
KCD2 seems to have okay sales but it ain’t doing numbers like it should with absolutely nothing else releasing right now.
KCD2 seems to have okay sales but it ain’t doing numbers like it should with absolutely nothing else releasing right now.
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It is a vocal minority generally speaking, though it's potentially larger for this game due to the fact that some prominent people at the studio actively courted those types of people for the first one, so it's difficult to have too much sympathy.
That said, it still appears to be outselling the first game in terms of pace and is already turning a profit.
That said, it still appears to be outselling the first game in terms of pace and is already turning a profit.
Mikeaveli
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People like myself were turned off from Veilguard because of the incredibly cringe dialogue (and also the fact that it is barely an RPG). I haven't seen a single clip from this game shared on social media that makes it look bad. Feel free to share it here if you've seen any.
The game currently has almost 2.5 times the peak concurrent player count of the first game on Steam, it has undeniably been a success especially considering it's a lower budget title.
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