KHL Trades, Rumors and Free Agent Talk Part 6

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I personally just don't think it is a good idea to oversimplify it that way, because money and influence/connections don't always go hand in hand here in a classical way at least.

As I've mentioned, both SKA and Avangard are Gazprom's teams, but that doesn't mean they're affiliated. On the other hand, Sochi/SKA unofficial affiliation is more connection based, which makes some sense, as Sochi benefits from it much more even without the Gazprom money. Different case is Vityaz though, as iirc, indeed a Gazprom's subsidiary was among their sponsors.

As you say it is not as simple as that. Therefore I am asking the poster to support/clarify his statement with facts.

If you are speaking about influence, we can not say that "Gazprom" in SKA, Avangard or Vityaz is the same entity/group. We need to differ among them. I know that it is a bit complicated/confusing for people not following the league too closely, as it is a bit complicated or confusing for them to "read the expansion talks." Not that easy, not that easy.
 
I personally just don't think it is a good idea to oversimplify it that way, because money and influence/connections don't always go hand in hand here in a classical way at least.
I would agree with you if this conversation was in proper thread/setting. In this case, it was beside the point and mentioned barely as an example. And yet it turns into this meaningless big brain discussion which is largely irrelevant to anything, and definitely to the KHL transfer talk.

Does Gazprom spend a huge amount of money to sponsor various sport projects? Yes. Does Gazprom exert a huge amount of influence over numerous KHL teams? Yes. Is Sochi among those? Likely yes. Will vorky and numerous other posters ever reach common ground? Likely not. Does who REALLY owns Sochi of any importance than talking about KHL transfers? Evidently, no, due to the other connection networks you have mentioned. So why does every thread has to be flooded with this pointless drivel?
 
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SKA - Vityaz - Amur. Nail Yakupov seems to be a like a hot potato bouncing from team to team - according to Edmonton Journal he is is the most disappointing 1st overall pick in NHL history
 
SKA - Vityaz - Amur. Nail Yakupov seems to be a like a hot potato bouncing from team to team - according to Edmonton Journal he is is the most disappointing 1st overall pick in NHL history

Still young. He will kick Oilers a...s playing for some other team. :naughty:
 
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So Nikita Filatov is officially retired. At the age of 30. Good job Filly, what a wasted career. He'll work as a hockey agent right now.

Goldobin signs with CSKA and he's a nice addition. 50 points in 51 games with Utica this year, respectable 27 points in 63 games with Canucks in 18/19. I wouldn't call him a total bust
 
Reid Boucher (Vancouver Canucks/Utica Comets) signs with Avangard Omsk.

Ben Kuzma, The Province (Vancouver):

"After finishing second in AHL scoring with the Utica Comets this season, and not recalled by the parent Vancouver Canucks, the restricted free agent with arbitration rights could see the writing on the wall. The Canucks are loaded at left wing and with Boucher being again mired in the minors, his agent Gerry Johansson reached out two weeks ago with a career option. He sold his client on a KHL adventure with the well-financed Avangard Omsk. Omsk is located in southwest Siberia and has a population of 1.1 million. The city is renovating its arena and the club will play out of Moscow next season.
With Boucher granted permission from the Canucks on Thursday to pursue a deal, details of a contract were being finalized Friday. The Canucks retain Boucher’s negotiation rights, but becoming an unrestricted free agent after next season is going to afford the winger with options at the KHL and NHL levels.
“When my agent first brought it up, we were kind of like: ‘No way,’” said the 26-year-old Boucher from his home in Lansing, Mich. “It just seemed so foreign. I never pictured myself going over there and playing. I have no idea how everything plays out over there. But as you start to think about it and things started to settle in, it sounded better and better. It’s the place I’m at in my career, to go over and a chance to make some money and to experience the world a bit would be a good experience for everyone in my family.”
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“Guys like Reid are in pretty high demand by European clubs, guys who have performed like him and been in the minors all year,” added Johansson. “We were getting calls from Switzerland and the KHL will leave Reid with leverage if an NHL team wants to bring him back and assuming things get back to normal. Omsk is first class and the guys have a good setup over there and are treated well. It’s not like the old days, like 15 years ago when going to Russia was a real adventure."

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Sad to see SKA will not sign a contract with Nigel Dawes, always came across as a really nice guy. What is the future for him? Back to Barys? Or the end of a career?
 
Sad to see SKA will not sign a contract with Nigel Dawes, always came across as a really nice guy. What is the future for him? Back to Barys? Or the end of a career?

What do you mean what is the future for him? He was Top 5 in points in the league last year. He will find a place to play in the KHL. SKA clearly couldn't fit his salary demands under the cap, which is good now that everyone in the league is now playing by the same rules. Gone are the days where Gazprom's wallet and charity was the determining factor of their team salary.
 
What do you mean what is the future for him? He was Top 5 in points in the league last year. He will find a place to play in the KHL. SKA clearly couldn't fit his salary demands under the cap, which is good now that everyone in the league is now playing by the same rules. Gone are the days where Gazprom's wallet and charity was the determining factor of their team salary.

Is there a club that will pay him as much as he wants?
 
Igor Polygalov to Traktor, according to EP.
Lots of chatter I'm hearing about more AHL-level players moving to the KHL if the league starts early. I can understand that, considering the KHL is aiming for a start on Sep. 2nd, and the AHL probably won't start up until next season (which could be late December to early January). According to an article, Andrei Chibisov (Jets) potentially could return to Magnitogorsk. Alexander Khovanov (Wild) is said to be negotiating with AK Bars for a temporary move to the KHL, Wild seem to have no opposition to such a move. Same with Dmitry Samorukov (Oilers), who is still talking with CSKA. Rubstov is a big name as well who could sign with Sochi (?). Apparently they acquired his rights, but EP only lists a deal of his rights from Vityaz to SKA.
It's speculation so take it with a grain of salt, but it will be fascinating to see how this shapes up and changes the dynamic of the KHL for the upcoming season.
 
Igor Polygalov to Traktor, according to EP.
Lots of chatter I'm hearing about more AHL-level players moving to the KHL if the league starts early. I can understand that, considering the KHL is aiming for a start on Sep. 2nd, and the AHL probably won't start up until next season (which could be late December to early January). According to an article, Andrei Chibisov (Jets) potentially could return to Magnitogorsk. Alexander Khovanov (Wild) is said to be negotiating with AK Bars for a temporary move to the KHL, Wild seem to have no opposition to such a move. Same with Dmitry Samorukov (Oilers), who is still talking with CSKA. Rubstov is a big name as well who could sign with Sochi (?). Apparently they acquired his rights, but EP only lists a deal of his rights from Vityaz to SKA.
It's speculation so take it with a grain of salt, but it will be fascinating to see how this shapes up and changes the dynamic of the KHL for the upcoming season.
The NHL isn't helping itself by the way they deal with the current and next season. Many, many prospects face the reality of not playing a competitive game until 2021 if they stay in NA or go to NA.
 
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The NHL sin't helping itself by te way they deal with the current and next season. Many, many prospects face the reality of not playing a competitive game until 2021 if they stay in NA or go to NA.
Yeah, one virus & the AHL & the major juniors are shut-down for a season.
 
Yeah, one virus & the AHL & the major juniors are shut-down for a season.
AHL and juniors depend largely on ticket revenue, not TV deals. KHL can get through it because they're typically backed by large enough companies or will have enough revenue via TV deals to survive. If they operate they'll have to do so with no fans whatsoever attending, so from what I assume, the cost of continuing the league outweighs the revenue they would receive with no fans. That's why the AHL cancelled it's league so early on. City/state governments aren't going to change their measures either, so I can with a degree of certainty say that we will have limited attendance in all sports for the rest of the year, and into next.
The only way they could continue is if they have parachute payments via the NHL, and I highly doubt that will happen.

The NHL isn't helping itself by the way they deal with the current and next season. Many, many prospects face the reality of not playing a competitive game until 2021 if they stay in NA or go to NA.
True, it's a complex situation, but it's difficult to figure out a firm plan of action.
 
AHL and juniors depend largely on ticket revenue, not TV deals. KHL can get through it because they're typically backed by large enough companies or will have enough revenue via TV deals to survive. If they operate they'll have to do so with no fans whatsoever attending, so from what I assume, the cost of continuing the league outweighs the revenue they would receive with no fans. That's why the AHL cancelled it's league so early on. City/state governments aren't going to change their measures either, so I can with a degree of certainty say that we will have limited attendance in all sports for the rest of the year, and into next.
The only way they could continue is if they have parachute payments via the NHL, and I highly doubt that will happen.


True, it's a complex situation, but it's difficult to figure out a firm plan of action.
Yeah, it is just fine what you are saying. And I get it, the clubs/owners are not wealthy enough to afford to play the game of hockey. Or they are just not willing to do so.
 
2020 NHL Draft Eligible Prospect Ilya Solovyov (Saginaw, D) signs with Dinamo Minsk


I think we're starting to see the CHL trickle, it's be interesting to see how many other players start exiting in the coming weeks/months.
 
2020 NHL Draft Eligible Prospect Ilya Solovyov (Saginaw, D) signs with Dinamo Minsk


I think we're starting to see the CHL trickle, it's be interesting to see how many other players start exiting in the coming weeks/months.


Dont know how much you can read into this signing, to be fair. He is about to turn 20 this month and I dont know if he would have been necessarily been on any ones draft radar. He would have also been eligible last year based on his birthday, no?
Plus, I mean he is from Belarus. As a foreigner with little chance of being drafted, and no chance of going the NCAA route, I wouldnt be surprised if the more lucrative option is to go home and get a propoer salary in a professional league, rather than playing for a stipend until the end of your overage year in the CHL. Careers are short and he will certainly make a nice chunk of change at a young age.
 
Glad to see that three KHL clubs are apparently showing interest in Nigel Dawes, he's always come across as a super nice guy
 

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