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Speculation: Mikael Granlund looking for next team as an UFA

Djp said:
Hes not a 60pt player onmost teams. Those teams aren't giving him more than 5. He goes t o chicago% san jose then t hey might give him that opportunity.
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This feels like a really weird thing to argue. If the man can manage 60 points on the worse team in the league, he can manage that with any team. 66 last season. 60 in 2023-24. 64 in 2021-22 with Nashville. If he signs with a stacked team and isn't getting top minutes, sure his production might fall. So he'd be wise to sign with a team that has an opening in the top 6.

If those are teams you are talking about, if those are the teams that are low-balling him, I see no reason why he'd want to entertain those offers just to place reduced minutes. He'll get a decent offer. The other things you are leaving out is your expected term. At 33, he's not getting a 7 year contract unless it is to defer cap. Which then sure, I can see him get a 7x 5 contract. But that's effectively like $10M for the next 3 years. Unless he can harness the powers of Jagr and be effective till he's 40. But then, why would you want him on the books for that long just to get a smallish discount?
 
I think he’ll sign for 7 x 3. I don’t think theres a 4th year out there, or anyone willing to go higher. Maybe 7.5 x 2 but I don’t know why he would sign that.

Pavelski was 34 and signed for 7 x 3 back in 2019 coming off of a 38 goal season. Dallas was the only team willing to go three years IIRC. Factor in inflation and cap ceiling rising and I think thats a good number.
 
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BKarchitect said:
No way I’m settling for 2 years if I’m Granlund. He’s 33. This is his last big deal. I’m getting 4 years minimum from my retirement pre-35 deal, especially considering a lot of the other options like Duchene, Tavares and Nelson are older.

Zero chance he takes 2 years IMO. Not in this situation environment with an escalating cap and lack of centers.

Take that AAV you are hoping for and tack on 2 years if you are serious. Folks are sorely misunderstanding what the market is going to dictate this summer if you want to play in free agency for a top six center.
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Would love him on Vancouver.
Provides what we need and would be a great mentor for Raty and Chytil
4 years seems like exactly what he's gonna want @ 7+ is what I think he gets.
 
Of the older cohort of UFA centers - Tavares, Duchene, Nelson and Granlund…I actually think Granlund will age the best. So if the market dictates 3-4 year type deals for them, I think it’s worth considering. At some point the other 3 are going to be complete liabilities when not in heavy offensive zone situations…you could argue they already are. So when the wheels start to fall off on production, it’s not going to be pretty. I think Granlund with his versatility and two-way play will gear down slowly into more of a Backlund-style player (maybe not that level of defensive warrior - but you get the idea) who can dish the puck and connect a more defensive line.
 
Benstheman said:
Habs will absolutely be interested and can afford to give him the 4 years he will ask.

He fits exactly the timeline for a stopgap until Hage can take the 2C spot. And we have the cap space to pay what he is worth.
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Any team can offer four years with where the cap will be.
I think the Habs are gonna be in tough to attract UFA's that weren't hab fans growing up, Canada is already a fish bowl many find unappealing but Montreal is a whole other level.
Maybe Duchene?
 
bringbacktheskate604 said:
Any team can offer four years with where the cap will be.
I think the Habs are gonna be in tough to attract UFA's that weren't hab fans growing up, Canada is already a fish bowl many find unappealing but Montreal is a whole other level.
Maybe Duchene?
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I think the odds are better we sign Granlund than Duchene but why not.
 
bringbacktheskate604 said:
Any team can offer four years with where the cap will be.
I think the Habs are gonna be in tough to attract UFA's that weren't hab fans growing up, Canada is already a fish bowl many find unappealing but Montreal is a whole other level.
Maybe Duchene?
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European players tend to like Montreal. The culture and vive of the city is closer to EU.
 
I think he will age well, similar to Zuccarello. Hope he gets paid. Never gets enough credit. The weird stint in Nashville and unfair hype pre-NHL have obscured what has been a solid career, especially when he plays for Finland.
 
I feel like a contender would fit him in at 5y $5m AAV, while some bad teams might go as high as 3 or 4y at $8m AAV. All depends if he wants money or to win. But he's probably not a guy that'll be offered both from one team
 
I think this is one of the guys the Leafs go hard after because there have been Rumours of the Leafs being interested in him for 3 years.

We know that Dubas tried to bring him in at least twice.

And I seem to recall reports either last year or maybe the year before that Treliving was in on him too.

Whoever lands him is getting a good smart player.
 
It's funny teams like MIN/SJS/DAL fans all love him when we put him in a place to succeed.

It's really just that stint in PIT/NSH where he was going through personal stuff/placed further down the lineup he wasn't a legit top-6 scoring threat.

Whoever signs and places him in their top-6 and some PP time is going to be very happy,
 
n8 said:
This feels like a really weird thing to argue. If the man can manage 60 points on the worse team in the league, he can manage that with any team. 66 last season. 60 in 2023-24. 64 in 2021-22 with Nashville. If he signs with a stacked team and isn't getting top minutes, sure his production might fall. So he'd be wise to sign with a team that has an opening in the top 6.

If those are teams you are talking about, if those are the teams that are low-balling him, I see no reason why he'd want to entertain those offers just to place reduced minutes. He'll get a decent offer. The other things you are leaving out is your expected term. At 33, he's not getting a 7 year contract unless it is to defer cap. Which then sure, I can see him get a 7x 5 contract. But that's effectively like $10M for the next 3 years. Unless he can harness the powers of Jagr and be effective till he's 40. But then, why would you want him on the books for that long just to get a smallish discount?
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The point he was making was that other teams might sign Granlund and play him in other situations than those bad teams did but like you said, a top 6 spot would be better for him on a team that needs it.
 
NYRnine94 said:
The point he was making was that other teams might sign Granlund and play him in other situations than those bad teams did but like you said, a top 6 spot would be better for him on a team that needs it.
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So is the argument that a team that doesn't "need" him is just going to low-ball him and try to play some weird social alpha-franchise prom queen move?

Sure, I guess that's fine for them to try but under $5M is insulting. I don't think any of those teams has a chance at such a low number. They are just wasting their and his people's time drafting up such contracts. I buy that those teams might come in under market rate. I don't buy that that market rate is under $5M unless he's given 7 years (I could see Vegas doing that but not sure why any other franchise would want 7 years on the books for a 33yo). His AAV is closer to $6.5M
 
Has been my choice for the 2C spot in Detroit for at least 3 years and wanted to get him the most at his lowest value but I think Kasper and Danielson will fill that spot soon so it's probably too late now.
 
Stewie Griffin said:
It's funny teams like MIN/SJS/DAL fans all love him when we put him in a place to succeed.

It's really just that stint in PIT/NSH where he was going through personal stuff/placed further down the lineup he wasn't a legit top-6 scoring threat.

Whoever signs and places him in their top-6 and some PP time is going to be very happy,
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He was definitely going through some stuff in Nashville, its also pretty clear he had no real desire to be here to begin with. The only reason he came back after his contract expired is because Covid hit when he hit the market and we basically offered him the same money he was making and it was the best offer he had at the time.

It definitely wasn't from being placed further down the line up here though. He had more minutes than any forward on the team when Hynes was coaching. It's one reason Preds fans are kind of meh on him. Yeah he hit 60+ points, but when you consider the ice time he was getting that wasn't exactly that great.
 
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For any team in the bottom half of the league, Granlund could end up costing a lot of ping-pong balls....
 
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