KHL Rosters this season. 3 nations went down and 2 nations went up.

[Exarz]

Liiga is an independent professional league without promotion/demotion though.

Well yes, but Liiga themselves stated that the same rules apply to Jokerit as for other teams wishing to join Liiga. The way to join Liiga goes through Mestis, any potential free pass that was discussed earlier is no longer valid. So unless they take Kiekko-Vantaa's license, Jokerit must relaunch the team in the lower divisions.

Jääkiekon SM-liiga – Liiga.fi

Reaaliaikainen otteluseuranta, tilastot, tulokset, otteluohjelma, uutiset - löydät parhaat jääkiekkosisällöt Liiga.fi -sivustolta!

liiga.fi

 

[Caser]

It will be interesting to see how many foreign players are still there after a few months? Just for example aviation is in trouble; no new parts for western planes, very few international connections. Want to buy a new car made in Germany: good luck. Bank transfers or credit cards?

It depends on how much money are they willing to leave on the table. No idea what is the plan about the plane parts, but international flights are usually done via Turkey now. If they specifically want a new German car and not fine with a Korean one, they can pay someone to bring it from Kazakhstan. As for the bank transfers, not all Russian banks are under the sanctions, but in terms of the cards a separate one from the Russian bank will have to be used.

 

[Lartsaman]

Liiga is an independent professional league without promotion/demotion though.

Mostly right. Demotion is possible via bankruptcy.

 

[Albatros]

Well yes, but Liiga themselves stated that the same rules apply to Jokerit as for other teams wishing to join Liiga. The way to join Liiga goes through Mestis, any potential free pass that was discussed earlier is no longer valid. So unless they take Kiekko-Vantaa's license, Jokerit must relaunch the team in the lower divisions.

Jääkiekon SM-liiga – Liiga.fi

Reaaliaikainen otteluseuranta, tilastot, tulokset, otteluohjelma, uutiset - löydät parhaat jääkiekkosisällöt Liiga.fi -sivustolta!

liiga.fi

When Jokerit announced their intention to apply the rules stated that applicants would need to have been competitive either in Mestis or in a foreign league. Then the Selänne-led bid to take over Jokerit was rejected and he came out essentially launching a defamation campaign in media against the club and Liiga subsequently cut the foreign league part out in order to exclude themselves from the mess. Mestis teams that have been chosen in the past include Sport in 2014 after finishing 5th, KooKoo in 2015 after finishing 2nd, and Jukurit in 2016 after finishing 1st.

 

[ES]

When Jokerit announced their intention to apply the rules stated that applicants would need to have been competitive either in Mestis or in a foreign league. Then the Selänne-led bid to take over Jokerit was rejected and he came out essentially launching a defamation campaign in media against the club and Liiga subsequently cut the foreign league part out in order to exclude themselves from the mess. Mestis teams that have been chosen in the past include Sport in 2014 after finishing 5th, KooKoo in 2015 after finishing 2nd, and Jukurit in 2016 after finishing 1st.

The latter two were actually selected by winning the title a year before (KooKoo 2014 and Jukurit 2015). Sport had three titles in five years at the time of selection which was made before 2014 playoffs (2009, 2011, 2012).

 

[AintLifeGrand]

It will be interesting to see how many foreign players are still there after a few months? Just for example aviation is in trouble; no new parts for western planes, very few international connections. Want to buy a new car made in Germany: good luck. Bank transfers or credit cards?

The Iranians have kept their F14s and 747's flying with sanctions for the better part of 40 years so not that concerned. There are of ways for them to be supported via Middle Eastern or Chinese MROs.

 

[Albatros]

The Iranians have kept their F14s and 747's flying with sanctions for the better part of 40 years so not that concerned. There are of ways for them to be supported via Middle Eastern or Chinese MROs.

All credit to the Iranians, but they were dealing with a small number of antiquated planes that didn't even have fly-by-wire. I'm sure they would do a stellar job safely maintaining the electronics of hundreds of modern airliners of various types like the Russians now have to do.

 

[Zine]

Any idea if this is true or just social media doing social media things?

To be clear the message on black from the employee.

This Tishkin dude now writes that his account was hacked.

Of course the current situation is messed up, but what he supposedly wrote just didnt sound right. It drew on every propaganda talking point there is.
In reality if KHLers (or even Avangard doctor) were receiving summons to the military the news would be all over it. Especially a more liberal outlet like sports.ru, and certainly local outlets.

 

[Czechboy]

This Tishkin dude now writes that his account was hacked

Link?

 

[Czechboy]

Sports News – NHL, NBA, MLB, MLS, NFL – CTV News

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Canadian media picking up on the topic:

 

[chauron]

Some athletes called now

 

[Czechboy]

 

[Caser]

This Tishkin dude now writes that his account was hacked.

Of course the current situation is messed up, but what he supposedly wrote just didnt sound right. It drew on every propaganda talking point there is.
In reality if KHLers (or even Avangard doctor) were receiving summons to the military the news would be all over it. Especially a more liberal outlet like sports.ru, and certainly local outlets.

ArenaBreda is reporting that some players received those, but the KHL will get the papers done to fix that.

Is this alert different from the one that was back in February?

 

[Zine]

Link?

 

[Zine]

Some athletes called now

Just because one receives a notice doesn't mean he's drafted. You're drafted when you're actually drafted. Which hockey players won't be.

Just like everything else in the conflict, the mobilization process is a total ****show. Many military enlistment centers don't have proper info; and that's if they're using any info at all.
Shamefully it's incumbent on the recipient to prove he's not eligible. It's not difficult to do, certainly for someone like Bilyaletdinov or whoever; but it just brings the war to a more personal level than ever before.

 

[MeHateHe]

Sports News – NHL, NBA, MLB, MLS, NFL – CTV News

Canadian sports news from CTV News, including scores, highlights and the latest updates on the NHL, NBA, MLB, MLS and more.

www.ctvnews.ca

Canadian media picking up on the topic:

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Dude, CTV read your posts.

It's really fascinating to me, that embassies are telling players that maybe Russia isn't the safest place to be right now, and hey, remember that American basketball player who was imprisoned on (likely trumped up) cannabis charges, but more Canadians went trooping over there anyway. I get that you're looking for work, and I guess Russian money spends too, but at some point you have to ask yourself if it's worth the risk. My family has been talking about taking a Christmas holiday (haven't been anywhere since Prague at the end of 2019) and my spouse is really reluctant about going anywhere in continental Europe right now. Just too much uncertainty. I'm probably less worried than she is, but I also know that a lot of fellow Canadians are in the same boat, even as tourists. I couldn't fathom going to Russia to work, unless it was literally the last place left on the planet.

(And for the few Russians who might read this: sorry. I would love to see St. Petersburg and Moscow especially. Maybe when the world gets a little more sane.)

 

[BobColesNasalCavity]

Dude, CTV read your posts.

It's really fascinating to me, that embassies are telling players that maybe Russia isn't the safest place to be right now, and hey, remember that American basketball player who was imprisoned on (likely trumped up) cannabis charges, but more Canadians went trooping over there anyway. I get that you're looking for work, and I guess Russian money spends too, but at some point you have to ask yourself if it's worth the risk. My family has been talking about taking a Christmas holiday (haven't been anywhere since Prague at the end of 2019) and my spouse is really reluctant about going anywhere in continental Europe right now. Just too much uncertainty. I'm probably less worried than she is, but I also know that a lot of fellow Canadians are in the same boat, even as tourists. I couldn't fathom going to Russia to work, unless it was literally the last place left on the planet.

(And for the few Russians who might read this: sorry. I would love to see St. Petersburg and Moscow especially. Maybe when the world gets a little more sane.)

I went to Europe in early summer and it was great. Not sure going to Europe in the winter is the smartest thing to do though when they’re anticipating gas shortages.

 

[Faterson]

Don't be ridiculous, guys. We are right here, with the war raging in the neighboring country. So what? If there's nuclear fallout, I'm sure it's going to reach Canada and America, too.

Perhaps, then, the high-and-mighty NHL will finally notice that something unacceptable is happening. Right now, they pretend it's happening on a different planet or that it's a war movie that you can switch off and ignore at will, because business is business, and we're not going to let any stupid war interfere with it. (I heard that that was the prevailing sentiment prior to Pearl Harbor, too.)

 

[Zine]

Dude, CTV read your posts.

It's really fascinating to me, that embassies are telling players that maybe Russia isn't the safest place to be right now, and hey, remember that American basketball player who was imprisoned on (likely trumped up) cannabis charges, but more Canadians went trooping over there anyway. I get that you're looking for work, and I guess Russian money spends too, but at some point you have to ask yourself if it's worth the risk. My family has been talking about taking a Christmas holiday (haven't been anywhere since Prague at the end of 2019) and my spouse is really reluctant about going anywhere in continental Europe right now. Just too much uncertainty. I'm probably less worried than she is, but I also know that a lot of fellow Canadians are in the same boat, even as tourists. I couldn't fathom going to Russia to work, unless it was literally the last place left on the planet.

(And for the few Russians who might read this: sorry. I would love to see St. Petersburg and Moscow especially. Maybe when the world gets a little more sane.)

Griner is just an idiot. Even American law prof. has to admit she's being treated no differently than anyone else. See link below.
The US is making a bigger deal out of it than anything,
Her situation has no bearing on the KHL imports, unless they smuggle hashish oil into the country too.


Brittney Griner's sentence is in line with Russia's strict drug penalties – but how long she serves will be decided outside the courtroom

 

[Czechboy]

Czechs are allowing the Russians on san Jose and Nashville to have visas for those games.

 

[Faterson]

Czechs are allowing the Russians on san Jose and Nashville to have visas for those games.

That would be a misleading summary. It's more like they will not push to cancel the visas that already exist. Hopefully Dominik Hašek has a counter-measure in place.

 

[Czechboy]

Extensions of existing residence permits haven't been affected so he should be able to remain.

Ščerbak opouští Hradec Králové a míří do Kanady. Ruskému hráči vypršelo vízum

Hradec Králové přišel o nejproduktivnějšího hráče. Ruskému útočníkovi Nikitovi Ščerbakovi vypršelo vízum a vzhledem k ruské válce na Ukrajině se rozhodl odcestovat do Kanady. V extralize už tak není jediný ruský zástupce.

sport.ceskatelevize.cz

And he's gone

 

[Zine]

That would be a misleading summary. It's more like they will not push to cancel the visas that already exist. Hopefully Dominik Hašek has a counter-measure in place.

Hasek is a lunatic, Did he not call for players to be jailed for playing in the KHL?

That said, what's been the Czech response to Hertl and Simek sticking up for Russian teammate? Are they getting assaulted in the press and social media?


I understand the reasons for it, but Europe is really starting to resemble 1950s American McCarthyism in certain dreadful aspects. We're seeing it on the hockey level already. Social media only serves to exacerbate this nowadays.

 

[Faterson]

Hasek is a lunatic

On the contrary, I find his approach the only correct one in the current situation.

Just like under apartheid, there were no exceptions for people from South Africa (athletes, artists, businessmen – no one!) to get around the sanctions and engage in any activity in the civilized world (let alone a glamorous event like an NHL game in Europe), the same approach needs to be taken now. Before it's too late and the world slides into World War III.

Did he not call for players to be jailed for playing in the KHL?

Not to my knowledge.

That said, what's been the Czech response to Hertl and Simek sticking up for Russian teammate? Are they getting assaulted in the press and social media?

Not to my knowledge. Hertl and Šimek are free to defend whomever they choose (after all, this is the free world, unlike in the east), and the Czech authorities are free to insists on their visa regulations.

(Just like Australian and US authorities prevented Djokovic from defending his titles at the Australian and US Open; I did not hear Mike Grier speak up against that at all.)

Europe is really starting to resemble 1950s American McCarthyism in certain dreadful ways.

Yeah, right! "A speckle in your eye, and a woodbeam in mine", eh? So if there is "McCarthyism" in free Europe today, what epithet would you invent for what's currently happening in Europe's eastern-most country? Good luck with that! I fear that even a Stalin or Mao Zedong comparison might be too mild, given that those guys at least weren't trying to launch another world war...

 

[Zine]

On the contrary, I find his approach the only correct one in the current situation.

Just like under apartheid, there were no exceptions for people from South Africa (athletes, artists, businessmen – no one!) to get around the sanctions and engage in any activity in the civilized world (let alone a glamorous event like an NHL game in Europe), the same approach needs to be taken now. Before it's too late and the world slides into World War III.



Not to my knowledge.



Not to my knowledge. Hertl and Šimek are free to defend whomever they choose (after all, this is the free world, unlike in the east), and the Czech authorities are free to insists on their visa regulations.

(Just like Australian and US authorities prevented Djokovic from defending his titles at the Australian and US Open; I did not hear Mike Grier speak up against that at all.)



Yeah, right! "A speckle in your eye, and a woodbeam in mine", eh? So if there is "McCarthyism" in free Europe today, what epithet would you invent for what's currently happening in Europe's eastern-most country? Good luck with that! I fear that even a Stalin or Mao tse-tung comparison might be too mild, given that those guys at least weren't trying to launch another world war...

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here? What is occuring under Putin is complete garbage. I hate it.

But it doesnt nullify some very worrysome things occuring in Europe.......particularly as it relates to hockey players, their right to make a living, their right to not be harassed, free of subversion.
As I said, we're witnessing elements of McCarthyism in front of our faces. It's not good.


And yes, I just googled it. Hasek the lunatic called for players to be imprisoned. 15 years.
See, this is exactly what I'm talking about here.
Hockey icon wants jail time to deter stars from playing in Russia – Nord News


But it's good that Hertl and Simek are not being targeted.