Kevyn Adams - New GM
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They don't like the hockey president idea because the role of that person would be to have the final say in hockey decisions, and Terry and Kim want to hold onto that. They can give Kevyn whatever title they want, the problem is the decisions are still going to be coming from the Pegulas. As long as that's the case, the only chance the franchise has is to get lucky.
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| 2014-15 | Rochester Americans | AHL | North | 76 | 29 | 41 | 0 | 5 | 1 | 64 | 0.421 | 209 | 251 | 1189 | 6165 | Chadd Cassidy | Out of Playoffs |
| 2015-16 | Rochester Americans | AHL | North | 76 | 34 | 38 | 0 | 3 | 1 | 72 | 0.474 | 199 | 249 | 971 | 6067 | Randy Cunneyworth | Out of Playoffs |
| 2016-17 | Rochester Americans | AHL | North | 76 | 32 | 41 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 67 | 0.441 | 205 | 240 | 858 | 5328 | Dan Lambert | Out of Playoffs |
| 2017-18 | Rochester Americans | AHL | North | 76 | 37 | 22 | 0 | 11 | 6 | 91 | 0.599 | 234 | 221 | 828 | 5195 | Chris Taylor | Lost in round 1 |
| 2018-19 | Rochester Americans | AHL | North | 76 | 46 | 23 | 0 | 5 | 2 | 99 | 0.651 | 254 | 218 | 870 | 5263 | Chris Taylor | Lost in round 1 |
Sure, it's easy to be shitty about 2 round 1 sweeps, but they did actually make the playoffs every season under Taylor (and were on track to this year), so I would call that a success, especially in comparison to the Murray era.
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What they do with Risto will tell me without doubt whether this analytics talk is real or lip-service. Analytics say get him off your team regardless of the return. If he’s here on opening night, it was all bullshit.
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AustonsNostrils
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Listened to Adams interviews this morning on Howard Simon and The Instigators - we are SCREWWWWWWWWWWED. The two dolts who own this team want to sit in the cockpit and play with the controls and do the navigating, right into the side of a mountain because they have no idea what they are doing.
They are a nightmare and it is only a matter of time until they cause drama with the Bills. She is a world class *****, there was zero need to fire everybody in Rochester other than she is vindictive and wants anybody associated with Botterill out of her sight and off her payroll. Botterill obviously told them their opinions sucked and that's why 3 weeks after announcing he was remaining as the GM they did a 360 and fired him - for telling them what they didn't want to hear. Adams who is more impressive to listen to than Botterill is already trained and at every opportunity he is including Kim and Terry as part of the management team.
They are a nightmare and it is only a matter of time until they cause drama with the Bills. She is a world class *****, there was zero need to fire everybody in Rochester other than she is vindictive and wants anybody associated with Botterill out of her sight and off her payroll. Botterill obviously told them their opinions sucked and that's why 3 weeks after announcing he was remaining as the GM they did a 360 and fired him - for telling them what they didn't want to hear. Adams who is more impressive to listen to than Botterill is already trained and at every opportunity he is including Kim and Terry as part of the management team.
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Adams will get whatever he wants. He'll make the decisions and the Pegulas will approve. They trust him because he talks to them all the time and he's able to explain things to them in a way they understand. It's similar to the Marv Levy, Ralph Wilson relationship. If Adams is competent as a GM we're going to be set for the next 20+ years. If not, it's best not to think about it.
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K.P. still hockey president in 2029: We've had 7 GM's and 9 coaches during my tenure so far. Who knew there were that many bad ones?
the bar for success shouldn’t be relative to Tim Murray. They made the playoffs two years and weren’t remotely competitive in those series, and this year were atrocious for the last few months.
I’m not saying they were awful or Taylor is a bad ahl coach. But people overrate his success a bit much. Not developing prospects or winning any playoff games is no way to go through life!
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I recall a book I once read where the main character becomes an advisor to the Swedish Prime Minister. He quickly figures out that the PM has too big an ego to actually take good advice, so his strategy becomes to offer up to options; one good and one obviously bad, and then lean on the bad one himself. That way, the PM can come to the conclusion that he wants to go with the better option, and believe he came up with it himself. I think Adams may need to take a similar approach.Adams will get whatever he wants. He'll make the decisions and the Pegulas will approve. They trust him because he talks to them all the time and he's able to explain things to them in a way they understand. It's similar to the Marv Levy, Ralph Wilson relationship. If Adams is competent as a GM we're going to be set for the next 20+ years. If not, it's best not to think about it.
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Maybe, but I would argue that the Swedes aren't the problem with this organization.
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I am still taking in this story; it's news to me. It sounds to me like Botterill was going to be a fine GM for the Pegulas until they told him to slash and burn the organization in the name of saving money.
He didn't like that and knew it would not yield successful results. So he was fired, despite being decreed "The Man" a few weeks ago.
In goes a reliable Pegula soldier in Adams who has done about 10 million jobs within the greater Pegula Empire, none of which involve GM-ing an NHL team.
He's the corporate "Yes" man they are looking for and need.
The Sabres aren't going to be a good hockey team for a LONG, LONG TIME.
He didn't like that and knew it would not yield successful results. So he was fired, despite being decreed "The Man" a few weeks ago.
In goes a reliable Pegula soldier in Adams who has done about 10 million jobs within the greater Pegula Empire, none of which involve GM-ing an NHL team.
He's the corporate "Yes" man they are looking for and need.
The Sabres aren't going to be a good hockey team for a LONG, LONG TIME.
What gave you the slightest indication Botts was going to be a fine GM?
AustonsNostrils
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No he was never going to be a fine GM. Benoit Pouliot, Jimmy Vesey, Jordan Nolan, Michael Frolik, Jacob Josefson, Remi Elie, Vladimir Sobotka can all vouch for that.
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Botterill sucks. Not in Adams 'defense, but judging by his interview he has a lot of information on Sabers' hockey activity and is a more sociable person, I don’t see how he gets worse than the idiot Botts, only if Pegula does not decide to become the same as the owner of Ottawa.
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1. No first time GM blows up his entire NHL/AHL/hockey operations department willingly; this was a Pegula move. Adams gets a pass on this in my eyes.
2. His openness is refreshing, but incredibly disturbing. For example, his laundry list of things he needs to learn or address shows this wasn't well though out. He needed to project strength, thoughtfulness and candor and only nailed the candor part.
3. The fact he was made to do the firings is a really disturbing and show's a lack of leadership by the President (note-I haven't been a Kim hater previously). This is disturbing.
4. Along those lines, the fact that employees had to listen to the PC and then be fired thereafter is a really ugly look.
5. I'm willing to give Kevin (I hate his "y" lol) a shot and hope he brings on an experienced advisor, but Kim and Terry really handled the transition poorly.
2. His openness is refreshing, but incredibly disturbing. For example, his laundry list of things he needs to learn or address shows this wasn't well though out. He needed to project strength, thoughtfulness and candor and only nailed the candor part.
3. The fact he was made to do the firings is a really disturbing and show's a lack of leadership by the President (note-I haven't been a Kim hater previously). This is disturbing.
4. Along those lines, the fact that employees had to listen to the PC and then be fired thereafter is a really ugly look.
5. I'm willing to give Kevin (I hate his "y" lol) a shot and hope he brings on an experienced advisor, but Kim and Terry really handled the transition poorly.
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He mentions analytics in his Howard & Jeremy interview and says he’s a big believer. Says he will lean on on Jason Nightengale (sp?). Sounds like he wants to hire some scouts that know how to implement analytics too.
We will see I guess.
06-17 Sabres general manager Kevyn Adams
Kevyn Adams interview W/Howard & Jeremy.
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jc17
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I'm happy definitely happy he brought it up but I am in the wait and see category.
I feel like analytics gets brought up a lot, but can be easily cast aside at the first sign of disagreement. I hope they are open minded to take it seriously
I feel like analytics gets brought up a lot, but can be easily cast aside at the first sign of disagreement. I hope they are open minded to take it seriously
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He's not saying "fine GM" as in does a good job. He's saying the Pegulas were perfectly fine retaining him as a complete shit show until he told them he wouldn't fire everyone else. A fine GM FOR THE PEGULAS. On merit he was retained three weeks ago. He wouldn't call everyone and tell them they're fired so he was let go and they gave the job to someone who would.
I had zero confidence in Botts turning this around. He couldn’t make the simple depth additions that could actually help the team. I wanted the front office sanitized for a couple years. Years and years of awful drafting and player development. Their point about Rochester is true. They were not developing young players there. Success was coming from high paid vets. They need to draft better now and provide more quality young talent for Rochester to develop moving forwards.
I’m more then ready to give this a try. Adams sounds bright and a good communicator. He said some good things today but talk is cheap. Let’s see the actions. Who do they bring in to round out the FO positions. Who do He and Krueger identify as players to go after and help improve the roster. Sounds like the bottom 6 are going to have some more buzz saw type players moving forwards.
I’m more then ready to give this a try. Adams sounds bright and a good communicator. He said some good things today but talk is cheap. Let’s see the actions. Who do they bring in to round out the FO positions. Who do He and Krueger identify as players to go after and help improve the roster. Sounds like the bottom 6 are going to have some more buzz saw type players moving forwards.
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