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With Ralph Krueger being dismissed on Wednesday, Sabres general manager Kevyn Adams is now the guy in charge.

I’ve confirmed that in a meeting with Terry and Kim Pegula, Adams outlined his vision for this organization, and the Pegulas put the team in his hands. Originally they gave Krueger the same type of power they gave Sean McDermott, and they found out quickly that it was an utter failure.........


Adams confirmed that he’s close to hiring an assistant general manager, and Sportsnet reports that it’s former Pittsburgh Penguins and Carolina Hurricanes assistant GM Jason Karmonos. Karmonos was with the Canes when Adams was a player there, and they won a Stanley Cup together.



 
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joshjull said:



With Ralph Krueger being dismissed on Wednesday, Sabres general manager Kevyn Adams is now the guy in charge.

I’ve confirmed that in a meeting with Terry and Kim Pegula, Adams outlined his vision for this organization, and the Pegulas put the team in his hands. Originally they gave Krueger the same type of power they gave Sean McDermott, and they found out quickly that it was an utter failure.........


Adams confirmed that he’s close to hiring an assistant general manager, and Sportsnet reports that it’s former Pittsburgh Penguins and Carolina Hurricanes assistant GM Jason Karmonos. Karmonos was with the Canes when Adams was a player there, and they won a Stanley Cup together.
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Adams is going to be addressing the team on Thursday, and his message is going to be crystal clear.

Adams said it will be a very honest conversation about having some pride in the jersey, having some pride in the fact that you’re an NHL player, and having some pride in the history of the team and city you play for.
 
May Day 10 said:
maybe someone with experience would be better to take the steering wheel. The entire reason this guy was chosen was for a flat management structure.
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He was chosen because the Pegulas knew him and trusted him. The flat management idea was the Pegulas/Krueger.

Adams just eliminated the flat management concept and now has control of the team.
 
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He was chosen because the Pegulas knew him and trusted him. The flat management idea was Krueger.

Adams just eliminated the flat management concept and now has control of the team.
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Trust is absolutely the reason Adams was hired. The Pegula's have been misguided by the NHL and people around the league for years. Without getting into details, they got tired of being abused by the old boys club.
 
Team Cozens said:
Trust is absolutely the reason Adams was hired. The Pegula's have been misguided by the NHL and people around the league for years. Without getting into details, they got tired of being abused by the old boys club.
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Yes. What the Sabres need is a vet hockey guy that consults Adams on hockey matters but doesn’t interact with the Pegulas. Let Adams have that role and let the vet hockey mind focus on supporting Adams in all hockey matters.
 
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The Pegulas' trust is worth as much as magic beans in terms of hockey results.

The NHL people havent caused the Pegulas to destroy this franchise and make terrible decisions at every turn. Did the 'old boys club' force them to fund Karin Housley's Senate campaign, making it awkward and difficult for them/Botterill ever to move on from a failing/failed coach?
 
Karmanos would be a good hire. He has real GM tendencies. He's quite a bit more qualified than Adams. It would also end any possibility of Rutherford being involved with the Sabres. From what I understand, Rutherford fired Karmanos in a fit of anger. Then when Rutherford was fired, Karmanos interviewed for the Pens GM position. That kind of drama belongs in Buffalo. Karmanos also interviewed for the Coyotes GM position.

Jason Karmanos fired in Oct, officially interviews for Pens GM opening
The twist in the story here is that it wasn’t the Penguins after all that forced Rutherford to fire Karmanos in late October, which was assumed by many due to how close Rutherford and Karmanos had been for years.
Multiple sources close to the situation confirm the Karmanos firing was Rutherford 100% driven due to a blow up
 
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Also from the article


Adams is going to be addressing the team on Thursday, and his message is going to be crystal clear.

Adams said it will be a very honest conversation about having some pride in the jersey, having some pride in the fact that you’re an NHL player, and having some pride in the history of the team and city you play for.
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Maybe I'm crazy.......but it strikes me that Adams is saying (and apparently doing?) all the right things. And it does appear that he has the Pegulas' trust.......so maybe that helps keep them out of things?

Maybe Adams will truly have the final say in hockey matters? If he hires Karmanos as AGM, that goes a LONG way to mitigating Adams' lack of experience.
 
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Buffaloed said:
Karmanos would be a good hire. He has real GM tendencies. He's quite a bit more qualified than Adams. It would also end any possibility of Rutherford being involved with the Sabres. From what I understand, Rutherford fired Karmanos in a fit of anger. Then when Rutherford was fired, Karmanos interviewed for the Pens GM position. That kind of drama belongs in Buffalo. Karmanos also interviewed for the Coyotes GM position.

Jason Karmanos fired in Oct, officially interviews for Pens GM opening
The twist in the story here is that it wasn’t the Penguins after all that forced Rutherford to fire Karmanos in late October, which was assumed by many due to how close Rutherford and Karmanos had been for years.
Multiple sources close to the situation confirm the Karmanos firing was Rutherford 100% driven due to a blow up
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Perhaps Rutherford has just gone crazy, then of course it's better to involve Karmanos as AGM Adams than to try to hire Rutherford for the role of POHO.
 
joshjull said:



With Ralph Krueger being dismissed on Wednesday, Sabres general manager Kevyn Adams is now the guy in charge.

I’ve confirmed that in a meeting with Terry and Kim Pegula, Adams outlined his vision for this organization, and the Pegulas put the team in his hands. Originally they gave Krueger the same type of power they gave Sean McDermott, and they found out quickly that it was an utter failure.........


Adams confirmed that he’s close to hiring an assistant general manager, and Sportsnet reports that it’s former Pittsburgh Penguins and Carolina Hurricanes assistant GM Jason Karmonos. Karmonos was with the Canes when Adams was a player there, and they won a Stanley Cup together.
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For everyone that wanted a President, this should make them happy.

Adams has complete control, isn't that what everyone wanted? There has never been cost restrains, so Adams can do whatever he thinks is correct.
 
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When Krueger wanted Chris Taylor gone, he brought in a college coach in Seth Appert, who had four winning seasons in 11 years at RPI. His record with the Engineers was 152-221-48, and he was fired after the 2016-17 season, when he posted a record of 8-28-1. He was hired for the Amerks because he came cheap and was no threat to Krueger.
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Admittedly, I haven't been paying as close attention as some of you with what took place behind the scenes but if a coach like Krueger and his lack of pedigree and being in his first season with the team gave the order to fire Chris Taylor like Hamilton states in the article due to Taylor being a threat to his job then I am so glad Krueger is gone. What kind of toxic work place environment does that sort of action create. By all means it seemed like Taylor was having success down in Rochester and creating a winning culture with the farm team. Even worse is Adams had to do Krueger's dirty work and let Taylor know of the firing. I am so glad Krueger is gone. Reading something like this does not give me remorse in the guy being fired regardless of how nice his perception may have been from the outside. By all means it shows what a shallow, condescending and control freak sort of character Krueger actually was.
 
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For everyone that wanted a President, this should make them happy.

Adams has complete control, isn't that what everyone wanted? There has never been cost restrains, so Adams can do whatever he thinks is correct.
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No, most people that wanted a Pres of Hockey Ops wanted someone with more of a track record between Adams and the Pegulas to both insulate Adams from the Pegulas meddling and give the rookie GM some sage advice.

IF this really means that the Pegulas will stop meddling, this is good news. Adams looking to add an AGM is good news. But, this is far from the same thing as hiring a solid PoHO.
 
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joshjull said:
With Ralph Krueger being dismissed on Wednesday, Sabres general manager Kevyn Adams is now the guy in charge.

I’ve confirmed that in a meeting with Terry and Kim Pegula, Adams outlined his vision for this organization, and the Pegulas put the team in his hands. Originally they gave Krueger the same type of power they gave Sean McDermott, and they found out quickly that it was an utter failure.........
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When did this meeting happen? Adams indicated 2 weeks ago in his presser he had the authority to fire Krueger.
 
slip said:
Bottom line the Pegulas are handing the keys of the franchise over to another rookie GM and expecting a different result.

Good luck with that.
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Not even just that, but stripped down to a skeleton crew of a hockey department at different areas in the organization. IMO they have put the organization back at least 2 years.
 
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Trust is absolutely the reason Adams was hired. The Pegula's have been misguided by the NHL and people around the league for years. Without getting into details, they got tired of being abused by the old boys club.
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I guess it’s because they were advised by people in the league at some point(s) that people say this? Because their actions and track record suggests they are about as far removed from the old boys club as a team could be. They have never hired anyone with experience to management, and only hired two coach that had ever coached in the NHL (and they had only coached a few seasons, and half a season, respectively).

I get being tired of the way some people in the old boys club tend to be recycled throughout the league, but this is way too far in the opposite direction. You’d think that inexperienced colossal failure after inexperienced colossal failure after inexperienced colossal failure would hit them like smelling salts at some point. But they keep doubling down. Maybe they’re tightening the purse strings because someone in the family has a bad gambling problem.
 
slip said:
Bottom line the Pegulas are handing the keys of the franchise over to another rookie GM and expecting a different result.

Good luck with that.
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It's a little different this time. There's a show me you can do the job before we hand you the money element to it now. Murray and Botterill were given blank checks. Adams is going to have to at least show he can build a team that makes an effort to loosen the purse strings. Krueger took them on a European Vacation. You don't need a $5 million coach to get players to work hard.
 
Buffaloed said:
It's a little different this time..
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Many fortunes on Wall Street have been destroyed by that little sentence.

I guess we’re gonna find out one way or another. But I wouldn’t bet my stuff that way, not even close.
 
slip said:
Bottom line the Pegulas are handing the keys of the franchise over to another rookie GM and expecting a different result.

Good luck with that.
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That implies every rookie GM is the same.

Idk if adams will be good or not, but thinking it will be the "same result" because the one similarity is being a rookie is way oversimplifying.

When you look at Murray vs botts vs Adams so far, its hard to argue we are where we are because they have been rookies. Each have flaws (like experienced GMs), but they're far from the same.

I think looking for "types" is never a good idea. I don't want to eliminate a pool of GMs because I need previous experience, I don't want to eliminate coaches because I need a tough coach, I don't want to rule out players because we need fast skaters. I think whenever you start reaching for types instead of just good at what they do, it's not a good process.

I'd like Adams to work with someone experienced for guidance but "same result because they're all rookies" just lacks substance
 
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joshjull said:
He was chosen because the Pegulas knew him and trusted him. The flat management idea was the Pegulas/Krueger.

Adams just eliminated the flat management concept and now has control of the team.
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Bingo!

I suspect the person who has been running the franchise (at least in name and under the title of CEO) is no longer having any fun doing that and has finally decided to put a bit of distance between herself and the GM.

Who likely now has the power of a President of Hockey Operations if not the actual title.

We shall see how this turns out. I'm hopeful at this particular moment if it means that Kim Pegula is less involved.
 
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