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Jim Bob said:
I absolutely believe that Kevyn Adams manages his relationship with ownership waaaaaay better than he manages the NHL roster.

And that is why I expect him to retain his job.

Managing up is an underrated skill to remaining employed as a pro sports GM.
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Yep. Every person alive has at some point worked with someone who has sucked out loud at their job, but has been great at brown nosing the boss.
 
Beerz said:
If that is your top criteria ...you will fail more than you succeed
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Your comment I responded to has absolutely nothing of substance to back it up. There have been plenty of very successful organizations in professional sports where good people are running the show and have the trust of the owner.
 
Kevyn Adams might be a good person, but what he is doing to build a hockey team in Buffalo is NOT working. You can only stay the course for so long, but if the result is giving you a chance at the number one pick year after year, then you have to take a hard look of what your approach is on building a team.
 
**Kevin Adams will make appearance on the wgr tonight coming up at 5:30ET**

Perhaps he will give his Power Point on Self Improvement 2.0 ? ;)
 
ValJamesDuex said:
**Kevin Adams will make appearance on the wgr tonight coming up at 5:30ET**

Perhaps he will give his Power Point on Self Improvement 2.0 ? ;)
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After the TDL he said he screwed up and put a team that wasn't good enough on the ice. But then he said that when he looks at the team, he sees them in the playoffs with this roster.

Maybe I misunderstood because of the translation, but this is some kind of mutually exclusive nonsense. :huh:
 
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Fjordsen said:
After the TDL he said he screwed up and put a team that wasn't good enough on the ice. But then he said that when he looks at the team, he sees them in the playoffs with this roster.

Maybe I misunderstood because of the translation, but this is some kind of mutually exclusive nonsense. :huh:
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If he says the answer is in the room but the team is in 3rd last its a very good answer to how garbage Kevyn Adams is at his job.

Kevyn constantly says things like this because he has no plan and had no plan for 5 years. He has no clue what he is doing.
 
toddkaz said:
If he says the answer is in the room but the team is in 3rd last its a very good answer to how garbage Kevyn Adams is at his job.

Kevyn constantly says things like this because he has no plan and had no plan for 5 years. He has no clue what he is doing.
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Oh Kevyn had a plan. The results just didn’t pan out, but he’s so confident in his original plan, he’s been spending the last 3 years trying to massage the roster in keeping said plan intact, and trying to pivot to solutions to fix what he thinks are the problems.
 
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OkimLom said:
Oh Kevyn had a plan. The results just didn’t pan out, but he’s so confident in his original plan, he’s been spending the last 3 years trying to massage the roster in keeping said plan intact, and trying to pivot to solutions to fix what he thinks are the problems.
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Yup. For better or worse (spoiler: it's worse), Adams had a well-defined plan. Let the kids play and develop and it'll all work out.

Of course, we all can see the result of said plan.
 
Zman5778 said:
Yup. For better or worse (spoiler: it's worse), Adams had a well-defined plan. Let the kids play and develop and it'll all work out.

Of course, we all can see the result of said plan.
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The biggest problem here is that the only reason its gotten even close to working is Tage Thompson coming off the scrap heap to be a top line player.

If that doesn't happen, this is 5 straight years of bottom 5 finishes. Adams had problably one of the greatest 'found money' luck of any GM in, after trading away two high draft pick top line forwards, a player on the scrap heap (who you tried to trade), would could pass through waivers, becomes a top line player.

Without Thompsons sudden late development, this team is in absolute disarray from Kevyn's "plan".

The other issue is....the "plan" was really to operate a cheap team. And for that plan to work, you need a lot of good players on ELCs. So the "plan" to let the kids play was also a plan to keep costs down.

It's part of this reason this has backfired so badly. To use the NHL as a developmental league doesn't work. Don't get me wrong, players don't come from the AHL finished products that stop growing. The problem has been....the lack of on ice success BECAUSE of the volume of youth in detrimental to development. Sure, you can plug in young kids and get production out of them....but if they aren't ready to do what it takes to WIN at the NHL level, no amount of friendship or brotherhood is going to fix that.

You need to build a team that can win first, and in that winning you will be able to develop and bring along players. But to try to do that without winning is a fool errand.
 
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TehDoak said:
The biggest problem here is that the only reason its gotten even close to working is Tage Thompson coming off the scrap heap to be a top line player.

If that doesn't happen, this is 5 straight years of bottom 5 finishes.
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You're assuming that if Tage doesn't develop, Kevyn does the exact same thing that he has done.

Can't re-write history and assume nothing changes. Maybe he goes and makes a deal and gets a legit 1C that changes the trajectory of things. Maybe he makes a disastrous trade that gets him fired.
 
Zman5778 said:
You're assuming that if Tage doesn't develop, Kevyn does the exact same thing that he has done.

Can't re-write history and assume nothing changes. Maybe he goes and makes a deal and gets a legit 1C that changes the trajectory of things. Maybe he makes a disastrous trade that gets him fired.
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You aren't wrong. One significant change changes to calculus. On the other hand, if he's not fired for finishing well out of the playoffs in a self described 'win now' year....I'm very curious how bad it'd have to get for him to get fired.
 
Zman5778 said:
You're assuming that if Tage doesn't develop, Kevyn does the exact same thing that he has done.

Can't re-write history and assume nothing changes. Maybe he goes and makes a deal and gets a legit 1C that changes the trajectory of things. Maybe he makes a disastrous trade that gets him fired.
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We would have drafted top 5 for the last 5 years and likely won another #1 or #2 pick. He would drafted the new #1C somewhere in the top 5 and immediately plugged them into the lineup. That's what would have changed.
 
I think there's a far better chance he's promoted to President of Hockey Operations, than fired. I'd actually like to see that.

The Pegula's actually had it right when they hired LaFontaine. But they chose wrong when they chose Murray over LaFontaine. Murray needs someone to oversee him, not run wild. There's zero chance a PHO allowed the Kane/Bogosian deal. Or the McNabb deal to LA. Or taking Nylander.

If Adams is in that role, and they hire a real GM, I think it could work. Pegula's get their sense of trust in Adams, who can keep the GM from doing some dumb things.

And the Sabres should look for an experienced hand who isn't old school. Tough to do but it's what the job requires at this point.
 
Der Jaeger said:
I think there's a far better chance he's promoted to President of Hockey Operations, than fired. I'd actually like to see that.

The Pegula's actually had it right when they hired LaFontaine. But they chose wrong when they chose Murray over LaFontaine. Murray needs someone to oversee him, not run wild. There's zero chance a PHO allowed the Kane/Bogosian deal. Or the McNabb deal to LA. Or taking Nylander.

If Adams is in that role, and they hire a real GM, I think it could work. Pegula's get their sense of trust in Adams, who can keep the GM from doing some dumb things.

And the Sabres should look for an experienced hand who isn't old school. Tough to do but it's what the job requires at this point.
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Based on Adams management, what makes you think he's cut out to be POHO when he seems to be flailing at accomplishing building any sort of contender.

This organization needs a Management/Scouting Staff overhaul. This team needs new blood and new eyes with experience overseeing this organization.
 
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