I will be a bit of a contrarian. I will not trash Adams for trades not made-no evidence better trades were available-but I have no issues with the acquisitions or trades he has made. Cozens has regressed for 2 years. Jokiharu was not coming back-to the team or on the ice! . McLeod fits in well and so far trading Savoie seems ok. Byram trade for Mittelstadt is a plus. Zucker and Greenway are good pickups. Lack of veteran leadership with accompanying lack of experience and confidence (tho some are overconfident) results in lack of cohesion and multiple brain farts. I would like a tough second pair RD and for the goalies to steal some games. Ruff has been given a a playoff team in my opinion and has to accomplish just that. Too bad not this year (sob).
Kevyn Adams GM thread
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toddkaz
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What does accountability look like? Just meaningless words if there is no actions.
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If I'm an owner I'm gonna keep my GM as calm and confident as possible heading into this trade deadline to make sure he doesn't panic trade and screw up the roster.
And then I shit can him in the off season because it's been 5 years and there has been zero progress in the standings.
And then I shit can him in the off season because it's been 5 years and there has been zero progress in the standings.
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While I skipped his presser I am watching the Baker/Fairburn show and I guess I’m happy he circled back to mentioning a partner for Power? It is ludicrous he hasn’t done it. It is ludicrous he got away from talking about it. It is, however, hilarious that Byram played in that spot for a game and a half and Adams realized he needed to upgrade Power’s partner overnight. But then it’s sad to realize he said it because he traded Joker…who was his only plan for Power’s entire career.
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TheDawnOfANewTage
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I’ve never agreed with a post more. I’ve hated the Ruff hire from day 1, I think you can see a clear lack of coaching behind at least 5 losses this year, and I think Adams is in a bit of a position with a cheap-ass terrible owner, a team with a rep, expectations of playoffs now..and yet he’s won individual trades, identified players we all like, just gave those guys extensions..
After rumination, f*** it. I actually like this deadline. Zig when they zag, or somethin. We needed rid of Cozens, a depreciating asset, and we get 60% of a really good player. We re-signed two dudes who kinda fit the pieces we were missing. Would still like to sell some picks to upgrade where needed, but this should be a playoff team. It isn’t, because Ruff was out of the league were it not for Terry, and Adams seems to be keeping the ship afloat.
Please don’t quote me, I know y’all don’t like Adams.
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They could have traded Cozens for a lot less than Norris and I wouldn’t have buried the move.
Just like I was one of the few who was on board immediately with Savoie for McLeod. And didn’t give a solitary crap about the second for Malenstyn.
I hate Kevyn Adams. I think he’s an unqualified yes man and has done irreparable damage to the organization by enacting the terrorist measures of his owner.
But I don’t bury him for making moves. Because the lack of effort is a much greater issue. Trades work and don’t. Doing nothing with where they are and what they have never has and never will work
Plus…it leaves a resume to judge him by.
He won the Mittelstadt trade
The McLeod trade has worked out with even more production than you’d have expected
Malenstyn is an NHL player who plays in the league instead of a 2029 at the earliest prospect
Greenway was not acquired with an overpayment and earned a new deal
Cozens was never turning it around on this team. He was showing signs of getting even weaker and worse…not flashing hope for a higher value down the road.
Making moves hasn’t been Adams downfall with this roster. Not making them has.
Just like I was one of the few who was on board immediately with Savoie for McLeod. And didn’t give a solitary crap about the second for Malenstyn.
I hate Kevyn Adams. I think he’s an unqualified yes man and has done irreparable damage to the organization by enacting the terrorist measures of his owner.
But I don’t bury him for making moves. Because the lack of effort is a much greater issue. Trades work and don’t. Doing nothing with where they are and what they have never has and never will work
Plus…it leaves a resume to judge him by.
He won the Mittelstadt trade
The McLeod trade has worked out with even more production than you’d have expected
Malenstyn is an NHL player who plays in the league instead of a 2029 at the earliest prospect
Greenway was not acquired with an overpayment and earned a new deal
Cozens was never turning it around on this team. He was showing signs of getting even weaker and worse…not flashing hope for a higher value down the road.
Making moves hasn’t been Adams downfall with this roster. Not making them has.
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I'm giving him a passing grade (C) for the deadline in a vacuum. Overall he's still at F. He's still years behind and his passive approach has destroyed 20-30% of the value of our roster.
Combine that with our sub-optimal approach to cap and spending and you have a team that will improve too slowly.
Bruins will be back as a playoff team before us.
Combine that with our sub-optimal approach to cap and spending and you have a team that will improve too slowly.
Bruins will be back as a playoff team before us.
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Staying idle while they were plunging in the standings and their response to his "guys in the room" terrible presser after the Colorado collapse are where his comments ring hollow. He's built a team that doesn't play for one another and keeps trying to import someone who will but at a dribbling pace.
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I’m fine with the moves he made. I’ve been fine with most of Kyvyn’s moves. It’s the moves he won’t make that piss me off.
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It’s the same level of accountability that the players were begging to get after Granato was fired last season.
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KA was not going to be able to solve much at the TDL. It's the past couple years of having overconfidence in young players or being handcuffed by Pegula that has the team screwed. Re-signing Zucker and Greenway are good moves - getting and keeping solid vets. Trading Cozens is good, even if Norris doesn't move the needle much. That STILL leaves gaping holes on the roster that KA has failed to recognize as weaknesses, like a true 1C, a true 1st line W, a top-4 RHD, ANY amount of defensively responsible players at any spot on the ice. Further, until he addresses this stuff in a competent way, the Pegula factor will keep top level HCs far away, so the hill to climb is still too farking high.
toddkaz
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"Ok ok ok guys next year is our year! I know I said it two years ago and I know I said it last year but this time I really really really mean it next year will be our year and yes even though I haven't build anything for 5 years and the team is a mess and has no foundation I had really really good conversations with other teams and even though I failed every off season and every draft to improve the team I swear this next year is out year", Kevyn Adams.
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A fine TDL.
Now we need 3 moves (trades or UFAs) as big or bigger than the Cozens trade during the offseason to have a chance at next seasons playoffs. And Adams needs to hit a home run on Norris and the other 3 big moves.
Essentially he still needs to add more this off-season than he has added in the previous 5 seasons combined.
Now we need 3 moves (trades or UFAs) as big or bigger than the Cozens trade during the offseason to have a chance at next seasons playoffs. And Adams needs to hit a home run on Norris and the other 3 big moves.
Essentially he still needs to add more this off-season than he has added in the previous 5 seasons combined.
joshjull
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Our top 6 forwards/top 4 dmen heading into the last two seasons were poorly constructed and are the primary reason we’ve sucked. Thats 100% on the GM, not the coach.
I could care less if Ruff gets fired tomorrow. But a dose of reality of what Adams built would be nice
The top 6 forwards from last season that wasn’t good enough…
Skinner/Tage/Tuch
Peterka/Cozens/Quinn
The only changes for this season were; buying out Skinner, promoting Peterka to top line and putting a teenager in the top 6 (Benson). Thats not an improvement on a top 6 that was already not good enough. Both last year and this one, an effective 3rd line had to be broken up and spread among the top 6 guys to try to fix things.
The top 4 from last season that wasn’t good enough….
Sammy/Dahlin
Power/Joker
Dahlin is the only effective offensive and defensive dman in that group. They weren’t nearly good enough and the only change was adding Byram. Who was supposed to stabilize the Power pairing. They’ve spent the start of the season getting destroyed defensively. So they got broken up and Byram eventually got paired with Dahlin, since he got caved in with everyone else.
Our defense is marginally better but still needs a partner for Power. Since the first attempt at a major trade to get one failed. It also still only has one dman (Dahlin) who we can be relied on at both ends of the ice.
Coaching doesn’t get a pass, not by a long shot. But I also think its fair to say the task the coach has is complicated by the subpar nature of the groups above.
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Fjordsen
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I would also like to add that Quinn was out almost the entire season last season due to injury and Kevyn knew it and did nothing about it in the offseason. Dude is the worst GM for this team at this point, we need a guy who is proactive, creative, with a clear plan in building the team. We need to find another Zito, considering we have some problems with adding players to the team (UFA/NMC/NTC).
2024-25. In a nutshell.......
Last place in the Conference. Instead of playoffs.
How much more of a fail does it take to rid the Sabres of its inept and incapable management and coaching staff?
How many more dry wells does Pegula need to drill before he recognizes his geologists are ignoramuses?
And incompetent...
Apparently, we have not yet hit bottom...........
Last place in the Conference. Instead of playoffs.
How much more of a fail does it take to rid the Sabres of its inept and incapable management and coaching staff?
How many more dry wells does Pegula need to drill before he recognizes his geologists are ignoramuses?
And incompetent...
Apparently, we have not yet hit bottom...........
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They are worse now than when he started. That's an "accomplishment", sure. I'm sure glad there are a lot of conversations and honesty though. That's great. Love this team
Fjordsen
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Baker said Kevyn has one more season on his contract, Ruff has one more season and Terry supposedly won't want to pay them to fire. So we might have to endure this for at least one more season, I don't know if I can handle it or not.
I’m not one to give Adams a “win” in tne Mittelstadt/Byram trade.
Sure, Casey didn’t play well in Colorado but he was playing well for quite some time in Buffalo when that deal was made and I’ll argue he meant more to the Sabres than Byram has. I’d rather still have Mittelstadt here than Byram.
Sure, Casey didn’t play well in Colorado but he was playing well for quite some time in Buffalo when that deal was made and I’ll argue he meant more to the Sabres than Byram has. I’d rather still have Mittelstadt here than Byram.
