Kevyn Adams GM thread

[Archie Lee]

This is total bullshit. There is no way that there is no one on earth that can be a qualified and capable GM for the Sabres.

For clarity, though I thought it was clear, what I mean by there are no available high-quality NHL GMs is that there are none who are experienced. There are, no question, people out there who can do the job. What there isn’t, is a bank of veteran and established high quality GMs who are looking for work. You are almost certainly hiring a 1st time GM or a veteran with a less than stellar track record. We aren’t getting a Jim Nill or Julien Brisebois level GM, unless we find one of our own.

 

[Ace]

Here's the difference: Golisano said the bottom line was to lose as little money as possible.....which means get into the playoffs by any means to get the at least 2 home games of revenue. So the handcuff there was purely financial

Pegula, by and large, will spend on the roster.....as long as he is "heard" in the GM's room. He was the driving force behind Ehrhoff and Leino. And I think he was the co-driving force of Hall (with Snake Oil Ralph).

HOWEVER, Darcy did tend to fall in love with his own draftees occasionally. So I think while Darcy would be a bit more active on the waiver wire and maybe via trades that didn't involve prospects. But I don't think much would change in the forward corps at all.

The days of Pegula spending if he’s heard ended with Hall and Covid. Since then the only thing he’s been heard saying is don’t spend. They’re at or near the bottom of spending in the league every year…in a period they’re supposed to be trying and going for it. When a dozen obvious moves happen they could make that would help them…they stay young and cheap and fail. You can’t rectify the two thoughts. You can’t say he will spend when he doesn’t. You can’t say he wants to win when he doesn’t make changes.

They don’t retain salaries when selling since Hall. They don’t use cap space to buy assets or get players. They don’t fill out their embarrassing scouting departments or hockey departments. They don’t spend on assistant coaches when guys have contracts. They brought in Lindy hoping to sell tickets because Jersey pays him more than they do. They don’t spend.

You can’t compete if you don’t spend. Starting with the front office. The one he hired an unqualified yes man to gut upon arrival

 

[sabremike]

The days of Pegula spending if he’s heard ended with Hall and Covid. Since then the only thing he’s been heard saying is don’t spend. They’re at or near the bottom of spending in the league every year…in a period they’re supposed to be trying and going for it. When a dozen obvious moves happen they could make that would help them…they stay young and cheap and fail. You can’t rectify the two thoughts. You can’t say he will spend when he doesn’t. You can’t say he wants to win when he doesn’t make changes.

They don’t retain salaries when selling since Hall. They don’t use cap space to buy assets or get players. They don’t fill out their embarrassing scouting departments or hockey departments. They don’t spend on assistant coaches when guys have contracts. They brought in Lindy hoping to sell tickets because Jersey pays him more than they do. They don’t spend.

You can’t compete if you don’t spend. Starting with the front office. The one he hired an unqualified yes man to gut upon arrival

The post COVID Sabres feel an awful lot like the Post Madoff Mets under the Wilponzis.

Really make you think doesn't it?

 

[truthbluth]

If I’m the Sabres GM, I plan for a roster overhaul this offseason with a pretty incredible UFA class. I trade out every big contract but (OP, TT, DC, MS), targeting NHL ready or nearly prospects and future draft picks (ie not in 2025). Spend heavily in UFA looking for players that are smart, tough, skilled, fast, big in that order of priority. Using the acquired picks to bolster the roster next year in-season when slumping guys can be had. This team isn’t “a couple” of pieces from being a contender unless those pieces are a #1 C and a shutdown RHD, two positions that are nearly impossible to acquire.

 

[joshjull]

Building a quality AHL team and building a quality NHL team are two completely different challenges.

And didn't the genius AGM hire Appert?

No. Appert was hired when Krueger had his tentacles all over the organization. He’s the one that got Taylor fired. Appert’s hiring was part of the 2020 summer of flat management excellence.

Karmanos came on board in 2021.

 

[slip]

The post COVID Sabres feel an awful lot like the Post Madoff Mets under the Wilponzis.

Really make you think doesn't it?

The post Covid Sabres look and feel a lot like the pre-Covid Sabres — complete and total ass.

 

[Sabresfansince1980]

Pegula must be involved or approving of the general management of the team. If he wasn't, the job and results that KA has provided are such a complete failure that there is no possible justification for why he's still employed. If Pegula wasn't pulling strings, why is KA still there? If it's not because of Pegula meddling, the only other reason is because nobody worth a damn will even return a phone call from Pegula's office. If nobody worth a damn wants the job, there's a pretty obvious reason for that. People around the league know what's up in Buffalo. It's a clown show. Nothing is happening until the team gets sold...NOTHING. KA won't make any significant moves, no other GMs really want to deal with him anyway, and TP is fine with that as long as he gets to offer his unqualified opinion about stuff in meetings.

 

[debaser66]

The issue remains that botterill and Murray were also viewed as legit GM candidates.

Sure, between the two go ahead and try something new, but I'm with Jim in that I wouldn't necessarily be jumping for joy with JK. You just never know what you're getting

yeah but also rookies, just dont go with a rookie next time, just a solid vet GM who knows how to build a NHL qualified roster and knows how thinks work, its an incredible low bar which all the idiots GMs Pegula hired didnt reach because he didnt hire one actual GM with experience.
But the little fracking Napoleon want to run his own show since he started.

 

[truthbluth]

No team in NHL history has needed an experienced POHO as bad as the Sabres do now.

 

[Beerz]

We should make Justin Kea our next GM ... then he can't f us over on the ice

 

[TehDoak]

Good freakin luck getting the 2 in bold with Pegula as the owner.

This is in some other ideal world, it's hard to believe.

I'm reasonably sure Beane enjoys all of those things I posted. I think part of his qualification is he came from a similar type owner in Carolina where he learned to make an older out of touch guy feel heard.

Pegula needs a comfort level which he hasn't had with Murray or Botterill.

He has it with Adams, but there simply isn't the baseline of competence.

Need to find someone who can do both.

I think the solution is bring in a consultant and work with the Pegulas about how to build a front office.

 

[Fjordy]

I'm reasonably sure Beane enjoys all of those things I posted. I think part of his qualification is he came from a similar type owner in Carolina where he learned to make an older out of touch guy feel heard.

Pegula needs a comfort level which he hasn't had with Murray or Botterill.

He has it with Adams, but there simply isn't the baseline of competence.

Need to find someone who can do both.

I think the solution is bring in a consultant and work with the Pegulas about how to build a front office.

Who's going to do it? Terry is fine with Adams, considering he hasn't fired him yet and there are no deals going on.

 

[Zman5778]

Pegula needs a comfort level which he hasn't had with Murray or Botterill.

He has it with Adams, but there simply isn't the baseline of competence.

We'll find out in the offseason if comfort means more to Terry than competence. I think it does.

We shall see though.

 

[toddkaz]

Will Adams even get fired? No GM has kept their job after missing the playoffs 4 years and Adams is on year 5.

We will be able to put the debate to bed at the end of the year if Adams still has a job. Who is the GM? Adams or Pegula?

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

Will Adams even get fired? No GM has kept their job after missing the playoffs 4 years and Adams is on year 5.

We will be able to put the debate to bed at the end of the year if Adams still has a job. Who is the GM? Adams or Pegula?

I’ll be surprised if he is fired.

 

[TehDoak]

Will Adams even get fired? No GM has kept their job after missing the playoffs 4 years and Adams is on year 5.

We will be able to put the debate to bed at the end of the year if Adams still has a job. Who is the GM? Adams or Pegula?

I think the anger from fans has to be there in a very public way. Especially now that the Bills season is over, I expect Terry to be at a lot more games.

A good old public shaming will probably get it done

 

[Zman5778]

I think the anger from fans has to be there in a very public way. Especially now that the Bills season is over, I expect Terry to be at a lot more games.

A good old public shaming will probably get it done

Who's going to publicly shame Terry at a game though? Empty seats can't speak.........and the legions of opposing teams fans aren't gonna say anything negative about Terry.

 

[Chainshot]

Who's going to publicly shame Terry at a game though? Empty seats can't speak.........and the legions of opposing teams fans aren't gonna say anything negative about Terry.

That implies Mr. I Live in South Florida gives a f*** about fans of his toy.