toddkaz
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How many points did he have during the 13 game losing streak? Its great for guys to show up after we are out of the playoffs so we can get the 8th pick again.
Kevyn Adams GM thread
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Fjordy
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How many points did the others have? What did Byram, Tuch, Power and the rest of the players do during this 13-loss stretch? How many points did Peterka have while Thompson was gone? It seems like zero. You're only looking at points, but that's wrong, he's a 3C, he had a surge at the beginning of the season, then a decline, like the rest of the team, but he's still going at a good pace in terms of points and is very useful even without it.
truthbluth
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Read my response to TageGod above. It’s more about the long stretches if subpar production that don’t usually project into the top 6 at the NHL level and the general narrative that Buffalo got rolled. It was a good hockey trade. I’m not a believer in Savoie as a big time NHL producer, although I do think he’ll be a good 3rd liner with his pace and tenacity. I just don’t think he’s creative enough to play a big part on a real scoring line at the top level. My issue with Kyvyn has never been the trades he makes. It’s the ones he doesn’t that make him ineffective.
He was scratched in the playoffs. He was replaced by Henrique at 2m. Dude is shooting over 22% this year. He should probably have like 6-8 this year. His defense is great to have. His goal scoring won't continue long term.
Fjordy
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Well it's the playoffs, I'm worried about the regular season. He's a 3C and he's doing a good job, he's got some interesting skills outside of his defensive skills, his skating and speed, that helps create some chances. Even if his shooting drops, he'll still get his points and be a good 3C. He was good at the start of the season, then he was quiet in terms of points, now he has 9 points in his last 10 games.
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Don't need him to be a big goal scorer. I like all the other things he brings to the team.
Ace
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Can’t believe I have to dig this back up in February while the player is having a good season…
McLeod was, again, scratched exactly one time in the playoffs. A game they lost. He scored the next game and helped them shut down the Stars the rest of the way. That was the *checks notes* conference finals. He then played all seven games of the *checks notes* Stanley Cup finals, scoring three goals.
McLeod was, again, scratched exactly one time in the playoffs. A game they lost. He scored the next game and helped them shut down the Stars the rest of the way. That was the *checks notes* conference finals. He then played all seven games of the *checks notes* Stanley Cup finals, scoring three goals.
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Ace
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Yes but good players don’t get scratched ever
It’s like this massive black mark that a 24 year old took a seat for one day in the f***ing conference finals before being one of their best players the rest of the way through a seven game cup series.
Insanity.
Fjordy
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WiHockeyGuy
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The byproduct of being a shitty team year in and year out is our fanbase can't even enjoy the good players. McLeod is a good player and would be valuable on any team.
How close are the Sabres to trading Dylan Cozens?
Dylan Cozens is generating interest, but the Sabres aren’t prepared to move him for just anything.
www.dailyfaceoff.com
(the rest of the article talks about Adams wanting a centerman back for Cozens and is 'gun shy' about moving him.)
But the fact that any 'evaluator of talent' would consider Samuelsson untouchable, especially with Byram, Power, and Dahlin on the team....just absolutely has to go.
Jacob582
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I would bet the 'evaluator' has changed their mind on Sammy after this season he has had, just like many of us have.How close are the Sabres to trading Dylan Cozens?
Dylan Cozens is generating interest, but the Sabres aren’t prepared to move him for just anything.
(the rest of the article talks about Adams wanting a centerman back for Cozens and is 'gun shy' about moving him.)
But the fact that any 'evaluator of talent' would consider Samuelsson untouchable, especially with Byram, Power, and Dahlin on the team....just absolutely has to go.
The article also states that most interested teams don't have what Adams is looking for for Cozens (a center in return). One teams does. The Wild (Rossi).
K8fool
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if trade players for draft picks other than firsts and even that is idiotic other than a Benson
burn Adams at the stake
burn Adams at the stake
McLeod was a good trade. A rare time when KA seemed (only seemed) to realize that the organization has to decide on some of their prospects and cash them in for a legit NHLer. In the middle of last season I hoped for a Krebs/McLeod trade. The problem is that KA has been clueless about his top-six Cs, thinking TT and Cozens were the guys to roll with, trading good top-six C depth away instead of adding it. That's why adding McLeod was necessary, when it should have been just a good add for a 4C/3C. Instead McLeod has had to fill in top-six duty when obviously the team needs more, and Krebs is filling in above his ability also. Just pathetic roster assessment.
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Yeah, bring in a new GM so that the owner and his cabal of hockey whizzes can tell the new guy to make Samuelsson untouchable too.How close are the Sabres to trading Dylan Cozens?
Dylan Cozens is generating interest, but the Sabres aren’t prepared to move him for just anything.
(the rest of the article talks about Adams wanting a centerman back for Cozens and is 'gun shy' about moving him.)
But the fact that any 'evaluator of talent' would consider Samuelsson untouchable, especially with Byram, Power, and Dahlin on the team....just absolutely has to go.
Changing the GM accomplishes nothing for this team. They're rotten to the core with regards to philosophy and operating procedures.
Difference being, only one of these parties are paid millions per year to know these things before every 15 year old fan realizes it.
Doug Prishpreed
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Oiler fans hated him for the same reason we are frustrated with a lot of our players -- he can't win puck battles and doesn't stick up for teammates. He's a perfect fit for Buffalo.
The trade was fine, equal value assets, though neither player will be an impact player so I find it hard to celebrate.
I guess we can give Adams credit for not hitting a bird as he drives the plane into the mountain.
OkimLom
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That's comical that Sammy is considered untouchable if true. Only way that would make ANY sense from a Buffalo perspective, is if they don't intend to add any more physical players to roster and his physical play is the one thing they don't want to get rid of, because he doesn't bring much of anything else.How close are the Sabres to trading Dylan Cozens?
Dylan Cozens is generating interest, but the Sabres aren’t prepared to move him for just anything.
(the rest of the article talks about Adams wanting a centerman back for Cozens and is 'gun shy' about moving him.)
But the fact that any 'evaluator of talent' would consider Samuelsson untouchable, especially with Byram, Power, and Dahlin on the team....just absolutely has to go.
Mcleod is a quality middle 6 center. Give him better performing wingers and he can help drive a line for quality production in a 200 foot game.
debaser66
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Unless you play for Kevin & GranatoYes but good players don’t get scratched ever
MOGlLNY
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McLeod has been exactly what we thought we were getting.
We are being torpeoed by Cozens, Quinn, Power, Samuelsson all significantly going backwards or stagnating. We needed at least 2 of these 4 to make a huge leap this year. I want to keep OP and he hasn't been terrible but he hasn't impressed me this year, that's for sure.
We are being torpeoed by Cozens, Quinn, Power, Samuelsson all significantly going backwards or stagnating. We needed at least 2 of these 4 to make a huge leap this year. I want to keep OP and he hasn't been terrible but he hasn't impressed me this year, that's for sure.
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Personally, all 4 were guys I feel were the worst grossly mishandled prospects at the time, with their development path under Kevyn’s tenure.
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I do agree. Cozens probably needed at least half a season in the A, Quinn another season, Samuelsson possibly 2?
Power has desperately needed a stabilizing partner and we've left him to fend for himself.
The issue isn't with AHL time, it's with the lack of veteran support at the NHL level that they are just now starting to try to work around. Interesting how some of those guys have gone sideways by injuries if we look at Quinn and Samuelsson. Power has never had a good defenseman coach at this level. Cozens was botched at the NHL level - telling him to try to be a 40 goal scorer coming out of his 30 goal season instead of focusing on his transition and defensive game. Samuelsson certainly looked like the AHL had done all it could for him when he ended his time there. Quinn's rookie NHL season was fine but the expectation that he, his running mate Peterka, and a player a year older in Cozens could handle the 2nd line duties without support seemed dubious at the time and has proven to be daft in the long-term.
I've stated multiple times they need to either bring in an experienced GM who has carte blanche to remake the front office or bring in an outside consultant who has built a winning team help restructure the front office. Swapping in Adams for another 1st time GM who the owner can bully into getting what he wants is just asking for more of the same.
The cheapness and decision to go with unsupported kids over several seasons (and having a coach who told them to just play and not worry about defense) seems to caused long term damage that needs to be undone.
Veterans and leadership on a team with no real aspirations costs two things: money and a roster spot.
Opting for Vets like Hinostroza, Pysyk, Butcher, Eakin, Hayden, Bjork, Clague, Lybushkin, Jost, Anderson, etc vs getting vets that are respected and can still play a bit at a higher dollar cost was a mistake. In most of those cases, those players were simply cheap for their role.
Multiple opportunities there were to take on a veteran player with a higher dollar hit (and get paid to do so) were ignored. The only real example where they did was Will Butcher.
And it was the same with the coaches. After Granato's interim year, Adams make a big case about going to talk to all these coaches...and he just circled back and signed the cheapest one, which was Granato. And the staff was just as cheap. Matt Ellis isn't an assistant coach in this league...yet he's been kept around...because he's cheap. They've had the same assistant coaches the last 4 years, with the only change being swapping out Jason Christie with Seth Appert.
The cheapness on support, both in coaching and on the ice, has been the downfall of the team long term.
