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Kevyn Adams GM thread

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Doug Prishpreed said:
Reminds me how Ruff said just today that he needs players whose main trait is that they hate to lose more than anything.

Is there anyone more comfortable with losing than Adams? Is there any team with less accountability?

It seems like Adams is always projecting - revealing to us his greatest weaknesses when he describes the team he wants to build. Saying he wants to shape the team in the image of his polar opposite.
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The same guy who said that you don't qualify for the playoffs December 7th or whatever (then they proceed to lose like the next 8 straight). Complete deflection loser talk that they have made an art form well before Adams. Seeps into the entire operation at all levels.

I don't blame them for not putting Adams in front of the fans. That isn't good for anybody. Although he couldn't wait to get his carcass out in front of any and everyone when things seemed to be going well, so it is annoying.

I am kind of surprised that Tuch didn't step in front of the grenade for the younger guys. Supposedly 'one of us'. Im sure he is counting down the days to UFA next year
 
May Day 10 said:
The same guy who said that you don't qualify for the playoffs December 7th or whatever (then they proceed to lose like the next 8 straight). Complete deflection loser talk that they have made an art form well before Adams. Seeps into the entire operation at all levels.

I don't blame them for not putting Adams in front of the fans. That isn't good for anybody. Although he couldn't wait to get his carcass out in front of any and everyone when things seemed to be going well, so it is annoying.

I am kind of surprised that Tuch didn't step in front of the grenade for the younger guys. Supposedly 'one of us'. Im sure he is counting down the days to UFA next year
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With how many post game interviews Tuch has done this season, I'm okay with him sitting this one out.

If I was Tuch I'd be pushing more for management to get out there and face the music.

You aren't making moves to bring in anyone via trade or even waivers, your last presser you made statements about how Buffalo is a hard sell and not a desired place to other players and the team has fallen to shit since then..

So yeah, KA you go get in front of the grenade.
 
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toddkaz said:
"No one hates losing more than me", Kevyn Adams.
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Can't be competitive unless we trade for better players.

Better players won't come to Buffalo until we're competitive.

Welcome to the Pegula Paradox.
 
slip said:
Can't be competitive unless we trade for better players.

Better players won't come to Buffalo until we're competitive.

Welcome to the Pegula Paradox.
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It’s almost as if not trying to make incremental improvements to the roster that are well within their ability to do has been a disaster. Players to fill out a NHL quality lineup, insulate and guide the young players, be leaned on when leads need to be protected or when you need hard matchups. Many, many, many players without trade protection that would have upgraded this lineup and made it more competitive have occurred in the last five years. Adams hasn’t made them. He’s sat on money and futures and the team is held in worse regard now than it was the day he took over. These are inarguable points. He is the disaster.
 
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toddkaz said:
I wasn't trying to make a joke. I mean I was but I wasn't. Did he not actually say that quote in a press conference? iirc
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No, I realized you weren't trying to joke, I think Adams said something similar. But I added a suitable gif to this very phrase of Adams. This is a response to Adams, not to you.
 
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CaliSabresfan24 said:
Wow.. send your young players out there and not yourselves... Absolutely pathetic

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I still cannot even believe this. I am assuming Adams is a smart guy (not a good hockey GM, but a smart guy)... There must be someone who is smart working there. How do they not suggest that this is a massive PR blunder. At least a coach, a captain, something...

Let's send the 19 year old out there????? Fitting, since he is quite possibly the most likable member of the franchise lol. They have to be disenfranchising themselves to set up a move. Have to be!!!
 
slip said:
Can't be competitive unless we trade for better players.

Better players won't come to Buffalo until we're competitive.

Welcome to the Pegula Paradox.
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Weird, because one of our GM's during Pegula's tenure was able to accomplish getting better players here, even at time where we weren't competitive or at a time that people didn't want to come here.

We just need a GM with the balls, and the capability to convince Terry to do what it takes.
 
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OkimLom said:
Weird, because one of our GM's during Pegula's tenure was able to accomplish getting better players here, even at time where we weren't competitive or at a time that people didn't want to come here.

We just need a GM with the balls, and the capability to convince Terry to do what it takes.
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I’m not holding Craig Button up as the voice of expertise on NHL GMing, but he has said, former GM that he is, that there are always trades to be made, if you have the courage to make the deal.
 
OkimLom said:
Weird, because one of our GM's during Pegula's tenure was able to accomplish getting better players here, even at time where we weren't competitive or at a time that people didn't want to come here.

We just need a GM with the balls, and the capability to convince Terry to do what it takes.
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We’re so far beyond the Murray era. At least back then Tpegs made it rain and the Sabres were seen as an up and coming team stocked with elite draft talent and a rabid fan base.

Granted most of the players Murray chased had some serious mental health issues and it could be argued that together they created a toxic environment in which guys like Eichel and Reinhart had to develop, or rather maldeveloped.

So yeah here we are 10 years later and whatever aspects of this organization turned off potential trade targets have been magnified 10 fold. The fans have largely checked out.

I agree the right GM with a sound plan and the balls to acquire elite talent via trades could turn this around. Not every paradox is insoluble, in fact most are sophistic constructs.

But good luck with any of that with current GM/owner running the show.
 
Ace said:
It’s almost as if not trying to make incremental improvements to the roster that are well within their ability to do has been a disaster. Players to fill out a NHL quality lineup, insulate and guide the young players, be leaned on when leads need to be protected or when you need hard matchups. Many, many, many players without trade protection that would have upgraded this lineup and made it more competitive have occurred in the last five years. Adams hasn’t made them. He’s sat on money and futures and the team is held in worse regard now than it was the day he took over. These are inarguable points. He is the disaster.
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Ownership is the real disaster. The Pegulas have destroyed this franchise. And rather than confront the problems they have personally created by hiring incompetent yes men they retreat further into their Boca bunker, leaving the rest of us to pick up the pieces of this shattered team.
 
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slip said:
We’re so far beyond the Murray era. At least back then Tpegs made it rain and the Sabres were seen as an up and coming team stocked with elite draft talent and a rabid fan base.

Granted most of the players Murray chased had some serious mental health issues and it could be argued that together they created a toxic environment in which guys like Eichel and Reinhart had to develop, or rather maldeveloped.

So yeah here we are 10 years later and whatever aspects of this organization turned off potential trade targets have been magnified 10 fold. The fans have largely checked out.

I agree the right GM with a sound plan and the balls to acquire elite talent via trades could turn this around. Not every paradox is insoluble, in fact most are sophistic constructs.

But good luck with any of that with current GM/owner running the show.
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Yes there were flaws, but Murray understood that he needed to get better players than Tyler Ennis, Cody Hodgson and Tyler Myers in the organization, and he was prepared to do that using the assets to his disposal as well as needing to draft top talent to the organization.

Say what you will about the results or the flaws of the players, that sort of mindset is what is needed for an organization that is back in mediocrity. There was an understanding of getting role players to support the main guys, with a certain character trait of having it in them to stick up for one another. Murray continued to try and improve his team throughout his tenure.

Give me another GM with that mindset.
 
OkimLom said:
Yes there were flaws, but Murray understood that he needed to get better players than Tyler Ennis, Cody Hodgson and Tyler Myers in the organization, and he was prepared to do that using the assets to his disposal as well as needing to draft top talent to the organization.

Say what you will about the results or the flaws of the players, that sort of mindset is what is needed for an organization that is back in mediocrity. There was an understanding of getting role players to support the main guys, with a certain character trait of having it in them to stick up for one another. Murray continued to try and improve his team throughout his tenure.

Give me another GM with that mindset.
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One of Murray’s most endearing traits was his complete indifference to Pegula’s thoughts on roster construction.
 
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I am pretty certain the earliest we can see them move on from Adams would be the end of next season. That would be the point we get to "enjoy" Karmanos as GM and Appert as HC for awhile, at least 3 years.

I think it is all pretty obvious
 
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May Day 10 said:
I am pretty certain the earliest we can see them move on from Adams would be the end of next season. That would be the point we get to "enjoy" Karmanos as GM and Appert as HC for awhile, at least 3 years.

I think it is all pretty obvious
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Honestly, I don't believe it. If he did it once, why should he do it again? Before, he hired people from outside. Now he tried internal hiring (strange), but it didn't work. Maybe next time he'll try to hire an advisor, for example, or just an experienced GM, it's hard to predict.
 
It's fun and amusing to shit all over Kevyn and he's absolutely horrible at his job, but never forget that he is a symptom and not the cause.
 
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