Kevyn Adams GM thread

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Was the "maintain family lifestyle" PP slide and "effective, efficient, economic" not enough of a leak?

What else would it take?

Video of Terry Pegula 3 bottles of Opus One deep, screaming "lets burn this f***er down" at the company Christmas party, waving around a copy of the company budget, and Kevyn's reply all response "Daddy says this is too much money?"
That, to me, seemed to be in regards to the down sizing, which is what I pointed out in my previous post.
 

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Well..nothing left now. Rooting for losses every single f***ing night. Rooting for a completely empty arena. Rooting, frankly, for some things I can’t post without it being deleted.

This was the declaration of war on the fans. Nothing left to root for other than the organizations complete and total downfall.
Only hope is more players asking for a trade. Would love to see what some of these guys can do on different teams. Dahlin certainly deserves the chance to start over.
 

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The "confirmation" is in how much cap space they have had and continue to have.

Unless you're arguing that Adams is so incompetent, and that the Sabres are so toxic that they tried to spend this money, but were unable to find any takers? Which is an astronomically worse scenario than a self imposed cap.
That seems to be more reflective of not having any monster deals and icing the youngest roster in the NHL. The "youth" teams always have a ton of cap, even when taking on bad deals. There is a lot of merit into what Kevyn talked about in his presser, getting talent to come here is a monumental task for a bunch of reasons, including his mistakes. It sounds like he tried to spend the cap in the off-season but it's hard to make people come here
 

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Not sure why everyone is so up in arms. This just cements that Adams will be fired at the end of the year, with a possibility of being sooner. There's nothing more certain about ownership's lack of support, than hearing Pegula having complete faith in them.
I would normally agree with this, but I think Pegula recognizes Kevyn's value as a yes-man who is 100% indebted to him for his job (and thus won't push back on the obvious budgetary/cap restrictions) and a human meat shield who has to bear the brunt of the fan ire and media criticism.
 

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Well..nothing left now. Rooting for losses every single f***ing night. Rooting for a completely empty arena. Rooting, frankly, for some things I can’t post without it being deleted.

This was the declaration of war on the fans. Nothing left to root for other than the organizations complete and total downfall.
Not just the fans, but the players as well.

They really are trying to manufacture a battle-cry from the players for a them vs us sort motivation, but that's going to fall flat on it's face. There are no leaders on the team to take on that sort of battle on, and when you have a GM who spent multiple season crying about not being able to do anything, and then your owner goes to the players that "there's no help coming" it's going to be more like a "save yourself while you can".

They had a chance to do a us vs the world sort of season under Granato, and they couldn't come close to that. Management and Ownership trying to will that into existence is not going to work.
 
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So basically we learned Pegula has no faith in his GM, that the roster he’s assembled is the problem, and a massive team shaking trade is immanent.

Read between the lines, folks!
 
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That seems to be more reflective of not having any monster deals and icing the youngest roster in the NHL. The "youth" teams always have a ton of cap, even when taking on bad deals. There is a lot of merit into what Kevyn talked about in his presser, getting talent to come here is a monumental task for a bunch of reasons, including his mistakes. It sounds like he tried to spend the cap in the off-season but it's hard to make people come here
They could've thrown all of Skinner's buyout money this year at another veteran top 9 forward or another quality d-man to deal with the inevitable Sammy injury with a one-year overpay and didn't. That money continues to sit there, and will go unused because Terry doesn't want to spend another ****ing dime on his least favorite toy.
 

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how far is this team from ever reaching the stratosphere of the top 4-8 teams in the league?

They are shooting for #16 and failing miserably, and doubling and tripling down on the fail
If all the players play a full 60 minute game and control the things they can control (compete, drive, emotion), this team has a bunch of potential. What they cant have is Tage showing up for a period, Tuch taking everything wide and taking bad angle shots, Peterka fumbling pucks and taking awful shots on the PP, Samuelsson heaving grenades up the middle, Joki backing off everything, Cozens trying hard, something going wrong and then sulking, UPL, Reimer, Levi kicking out rebounds to high danger areas because they can't suck in the first shot. I don't know how to wake them up because this stuff is standard boiler plate stuff for hockey players. I get having some off games, it happens, but they shouldn't string together
 

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Only hope is more players asking for a trade. Would love to see what some of these guys can do on different teams. Dahlin certainly deserves the chance to start over.
Dahlin deserves to stay right here and help right this ship. He's been given everything he's wanted contractually. He's a core part of the solution and this idea of gifting him a trade to a non-dysfunctional organization is pure self-loathing Sabres fandom and it needs to stop.
 
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They could've thrown all of Skinner's buyout money this year at another veteran top 9 forward or another quality d-man to deal with the inevitable Sammy injury with a one-year overpay and didn't. That money continues to sit there, and will go unused because Terry doesn't want to spend another ****ing dime on his least favorite toy.
There is nothing to back up that is the initiative or direction. The Skinner money also has to be used wisely, he wasn't cut to create cap. He had a deal for Necas and that fell through, he had something in line for Ehlers and that fell through, he tried. He should be 100% trying to get something else going ..and he might be but we don't know.

TLDR; he is trying to spend the money but can't find legit takers. Skinner was not cut for cap reasons.
 

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Dahlin deserves stay right here and help right this ship. He's been given everything he's wanted contractually. He's a core part of the solution and this idea of gifting him a trade to a non-dysfunctional organization is pure self-loathing Sabres fandom and it needs to stop.
Counter point: this isn’t a professional organization and I am rooting for every single player to voice that and demand action either from this ownership or to be moved out of this destroyed husk of a franchise.

Burn. It. All.
 

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Counter point: this isn’t a professional organization and I am rooting for every single player to voice that and demand action either from this ownership or to be moved out of this destroyed husk of a franchise.

Burn. It. All.
Burning it all down to save it didn’t work in Vietnam, and it sure as hell won’t save this team the third time around.

Keep what you got, trade for what you need, bring in more vets who know how to navigate adversity, find a better GM, and get into the playoffs for next season.

Enough with the nihilistic melodrama.
 

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